Raheem Sterling

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:42 pm

No thread on the front page, search facility is something that comes out of a dogs arse so:

Right we are here, in the semi - final.

Let's win this thing now, we can - oh yes we can but, but:

Not with Raheem Sterling in the team.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:44 pm

End product = woeful!

Aside from that, I think he brings quite a lot to the team.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:45 pm

Don’t agree.

He doesn’t always provide the end product, but his creativity is very much needed in this team.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:46 pm

England's most important player.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:50 pm

Made some great runs today but end product was woeful. I feel he’s got better as the tournament has progressed so I would still start him in the semi. We’ve got to look at the next game as a 120 min match which leaves plenty of time to change personnel. Besides, Rashford is a better impact player.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:51 pm

He is bobbins!

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:54 pm

Rather have Vardy or Rashford any time. I appreciate his pace and that he can open chances for others. But so far in this world cup he has zero composure in front of goal. The semi might come down to one chance. Don't want him to have it

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:55 pm

Leave Stirling in for me, creates space for others. Agree that his finishing should be better though.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:55 pm

No denying he works his socks off and drags defenders out of position but nobody is taking advantage of the space he creates.
But as soon as he has to think he’s shocking. If he just chilled and played off the cuff he’d be better. As is he doesn't deserve a place. Both Vardy and Rashford have the pace to drag defenders around but both of them are far better finishers.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:57 pm

It's amazing how so many actual football managers keep getting it wrong about Sterling, isn't it?

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:05 pm

An extremely frustrating player, clearly talented but his finishing for England is shockingly bad for an international player.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:07 pm

“Sometimes we judge him on ‘he missed that goal, he missed that shot,’ but the amount of actions he creates, assists, he creates fouls, penalties... His understanding of the game is global: he can create inside, outside, dribbling, runs in behind."

Guardiola on Sterling in April

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:07 pm

Anybody critical of Sterling and his role in this team knows nothing about football.

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:11 pm

Socrates wrote:Anybody critical of Sterling and his role in this team knows nothing about football.

Agee, but that doesn't excuse his finishing ability. At the end of the day he's a striker and misses far to many easy chances.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:12 pm

Is he sponsored by Northern Fried Chicken because he runs around like a headless one and who forget his open goal miss at the Turf last year?
No end product,never looks up to pick up team mates and a first touch like a man wearing wellies.
Yes he did run around a lot.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:16 pm

Less minutes per goal / assist than De Bruyne, Jesus, The German lad, Silva for Man City last year..... no end product apparently. 23 goals, 12 assists. Aguero with 30 goals and 7 assists the only larger contributor to Man City's tally. Sterling averaged 142 minutes per goal / assist. De Bruyne over 300.

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Claretlad · Post by **Claretlad** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:17 pm

Its one of them...hes that bad ..hes good...

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:17 pm

BBC crew - Lineker, Shearer, Klinsmann & Ferdinand - were having a proper love-fest for Sterling at half-time. And at the end Rio states, "I think he is one of those player's player type that you love to play alongside but the fans out there don't like!" Pretty much says it all, really.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:17 pm

He irritated the Swedish defence today. Not devastating but worth his place.

k90bfc · Post by **k90bfc** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:20 pm

With the ball at his feet,in the penalty area,when he should score,he crumbles like a biscuit,give me Andy Payton any time,He would have scored with ease,Double Arm Salute!

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:21 pm

dandeclaret wrote:Less minutes per goal / assist than De Bruyne, Jesus, The German lad, Silva for Man City last year..... no end product apparently. 23 goals, 12 assists. Aguero with 30 goals and 7 assists the only larger contributor to Man City's tally. Sterling averaged 142 minutes per goal / assist. De Bruyne over 300.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/team ... op-scorers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What's the stats for England games? Because that is what I'm interested about at the moment. Man City stats are interesting but irrelevant

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:24 pm

Oh right - thought somebody had used his open goal miss on the Turf above my mistake. Number of runs in behind defences for all the games is far higher than any other forward, creating space for other players to play in.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:24 pm

His end product is terrible. I’m in drop him camp. Vardy is a much better option

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:27 pm

The injured Vardy or another one?

Athletico mtoto · Post by **Athletico mtoto** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:31 pm

Sunday 15 July Raheem Sterling
Scores winning goal to win World Cup
Assisted by Jordan Henderson

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:32 pm

His finishing has been woeful but creates a headache for opposition with his movement and pace unlike any other option we have so I say keeps his place
Love him or hate him he's always involved

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:42 pm

i slag off sterling as much as the next man but then i realised that was because he is always involved in the action.

He is always there. he is always involved. hes decent

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:46 pm

Finishing abysmal but a nightmare to defend against, I'd imagine.
If even he doesn't know what he's going to do next, how the hell can a defender be expected to ?

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:17 pm

Shore claret wrote:At the end of the day he's a striker and misses far to many easy chances.

At the end of the day .... he’s playing as a striker but he isn’t one.

He’s getting used to playing with his back to goal in a World Cup. His use of movement and creation of space for others has been top, top drawer and teams are genuinely worried about him.

As long as the team are scoring and he’s a massive part of our attacking play it really doesn’t matter. He’s getting better and better every game in the tournament and in this new role.

ClaretFelix · Post by **ClaretFelix** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:20 pm

Not sure why people think Vardy is suited to our style of football? The majority of the teams England play sit deep and leave hardly any space in behind which Vardy normally thrives on. I think his subs appearances where he has struggled to get involved shows he struggles without the areas to spin into. He has no impact and doesn’t seem to possess the know how of when to drop in and collect the ball from deep allowing the likes of Lingard and Alli to press on.

Kane does this naturally as a target man (although he was quiet today, looked tired or carrying a knock) and Sterling has done really well in dropping into the pocket of space between the defence and midfield lines.
Yes his end product is not the best, could you put it down to a good save??!
I’m his biggest critic but it seems very fashionable to slate him instead of looking at the game as a bigger picture.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:27 pm

Does not have the composure to score for England and after 30 games never will. Rashford to start for me.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:29 pm

Socrates wrote:At the end of the day .... he’s playing as a striker but he isn’t one.

He’s getting used to playing with his back to goal in a World Cup. His use of movement and creation of space for others has been top, top drawer and teams are genuinely worried about him.

As long as the team are scoring and he’s a massive part of our attacking play it really doesn’t matter. He’s getting better and better every game in the tournament and in this new role.

I'm massively thinking about winning this thing now, yes the the whole thing, The ******* World Cup, I don't want this clown anywhere near the penalty area with options in the the last few minutes of extra time.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:32 pm

Russia just scored

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:32 pm

We are nowhere near as good as France or Belgium but if it comes down to 1 game anything could happen.

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:53 pm

DCWat wrote:End product = woeful!

Aside from that, I think he brings quite a lot to the team.

We are a better sidevwith him in we would be phenomenal if he had some composure. We would sail through games.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:01 pm

Diesel wrote:I'm massively thinking about winning this thing now, yes the the whole thing, The ******* World Cup, I don't want this clown anywhere near the penalty area with options in the the last few minutes of extra time.

I refer you to my initial post and not knowing anything about football.

CaptJohn · Post by **CaptJohn** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:13 pm

Such a talented individual with zero confidence in front of goal. Southgate left him on because he was praying he would score. He didn't Gareth so time for a change IMHO.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:15 pm

As said on another thread on the bench then bring him on late for his undoubted speed if needed against a tired opposition.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:20 pm

Progressing despite him, not because of him, imagine what we could be like? That number 10 position is massive.

The one question that nobody has asked is who else could play Sterling's position?

Claretuk · Post by **Claretuk** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:29 pm

He's just a headless chicken who for chances missed of 1 on 1s n tap ins he will go down as the WORST finisher of all time! but it will make a great dvd for the future generations of bloopers n what happens next in quizzes..

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:31 pm

dandeclaret wrote:England's most important player.

He is. After about 8 or 9 others.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:31 pm

Socrates wrote:Anybody critical of Sterling and his role in this team knows nothing about football.

Spot on. Excellent today, just missing a finish.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:34 pm

He runs like John Inman having sh1t himself.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:34 pm

Stayingup wrote:He is. After about 8 or 9 others.

Still in the first 11 then.

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:37 pm

Socrates wrote:At the end of the day .... he’s playing as a striker but he isn’t one.

He’s getting used to playing with his back to goal in a World Cup. His use of movement and creation of space for others has been top, top drawer and teams are genuinely worried about him.

As long as the team are scoring and he’s a massive part of our attacking play it really doesn’t matter. He’s getting better and better every game in the tournament and in this new role.

I agree with most of that, but some of these chances he's missing are going to bite us on the arse.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:41 pm

Shore claret wrote:I agree with most of that, but some of these chances he's missing are going to bite us on the arse.

Not if we keep scoring the chances he’s playing a massive part in us creating.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:41 pm

dandeclaret wrote:“Sometimes we judge him on ‘he missed that goal, he missed that shot,’ but the amount of actions he creates, assists, he creates fouls, penalties... His understanding of the game is global: he can create inside, outside, dribbling, runs in behind."

Guardiola on Sterling in April

Bet he wasn’t saying that after the burnley game. Seriously, after selecting hin in most of Man City’s games, whaddaya expect him to say?

Or rather, utter ********. He’s fuckin dogger-fact. So many times he gets the ball in promising positions, and it ends up with a goal kick, or an opposition throw. Very, very poor.

Pace is only scary to an opposition defender, if the player with it has serious ability. Raheem Sterling would struggle to start for Burnley. Sometimes, he’s soooooo ineffective, it’s like starting with ten men.

Seems to me that he’s trying too hard to make a name for himself. Far too many times the easy pass was the ball, but he makes it all about him and tries to finish the game. Very poor. Frightened to death of hearing “you let your country down” to such a point he’s actually letting his country down by trying to be the game winner. Disappointingly, his manager should see that, and deal with it.

Raheem sterling has pace to burn, but he consistently makes the wrong decision. Shouldn’t start.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:47 pm

bobinho wrote:Bet he wasn’t saying that after the burnley game. Seriously, after selecting hin in most of Man City’s games, whaddaya expect him to say?

Or rather, utter ********. He’s fuckin dogger-fact. So many times he gets the ball in promising positions, and it ends up with a goal kick, or an opposition throw. Very, very poor.

Pace is only scary to an opposition defender, if the player with it has serious ability. Raheem Sterling would struggle to start for Burnley. Sometimes, he’s soooooo ineffective, it’s like starting with ten men.

Seems to me that he’s trying too hard to make a name for himself. Far too many times the easy pass was the ball, but he makes it all about him and tries to finish the game. Very poor. Frightened to death of hearing “you let your country down” to such a point he’s actually letting his country down by trying to be the game winner. Disappointingly, his manager should see that, and deal with it.

Raheem sterling has pace to burn, but he consistently makes the wrong decision. Shouldn’t start.

Congratulations.

Against some pretty stiff opposition that’s the most incorrect post i’ve ever seen on here.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:48 pm

bobinho wrote:Raheem Sterling would struggle to start for Burnley. Sometimes, he’s soooooo ineffective, it’s like starting with ten men.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

That is an absolute doozy.

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:49 pm

Sterling is our most important attacking player, No one else can take the ball into enemy territory the way he does. When he can score as
Maradona and Pele we might give him some space.