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Eng vs Bel

Postby DustyBawls » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:05 pm

That was sh%t defending.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:07 pm

dreadful in midfield, proper school boy stuff

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby kaptin1 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:08 pm

Why are Rose’s socks full of holes?

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:10 pm

Belgium keep up this pace and clever football, England could get a real stuffing.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby DustyBawls » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:14 pm

England go from 1st gear to 3rd, but it takes them longer than it takes Belgium to get from 1st to 5th.

They are certainly better than Croatia that's for sure.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby box_of_frogs » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:17 pm

DustyBawls wrote:England go from 1st gear to 3rd, but it takes them longer than it takes Belgium to get from 1st to 5th.

They are certainly better than Croatia that's for sure.

I thought we hadn’t reached the lofty heights of 3rd gear yet......

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:18 pm

They are light years ahead of us with the creative players they have, the gulf in class in the opening 18 mins is huge
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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:18 pm

"They are certainly better than Croatia that's for sure."


Absolutely!
Belgium currently have one of the best sides in world football!

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:21 pm

What on earth is Sterling doing on the pitch. All these folk saying he plays well.......I just don’t see it. He’s absolutely crap
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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby kaptin1 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:22 pm

Claret wrote:What on earth is Sterling doing on the pitch. All these folk saying he plays well.......I just don’t see it. He’s absolutely crap


He makes brilliant runs and gets himself into some really good positions but then invariably makes the wrong decision. So frustrating.
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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby kaptin1 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:23 pm

And the one time he makes the right decision Kane hits it wide

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:26 pm

gonna be a lot of weight on Phil Foden over the next few years, already much better than any of our midfielders. We've settled in the game now, looking a bit better

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:28 pm

kaptin1 wrote:He makes brilliant runs and gets himself into some really good positions but then invariably makes the wrong decision. So frustrating.

We could do without his brilliant runs then nobody would pass to him and it would save all of us from wasting our time

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby DustyBawls » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:36 pm

Belgium are playing well tactically, too. They know we won't create much so they're not really pressing us. Why bother when you know the opposition will eventually give you the ball back, anyway?

England need to try passing to players in less space, instead of only passing to players on their own. Watch what Belgium do - they'll dink a pass into a player who has players a few yards away, as that's how you create the chances. If you only pass to players in acres of space, it'll take 25 passes before you create a decent chance.
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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby International class » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:38 pm

Sterling looks as though he's falling over when running with the ball. He's never fully in control of it. Defenders just have to wait knowing he'll cock it up.

Southgate was praised for his ruthless streak in getting shut of Rooney and Hart, but his blind loyalty to Sterling is ridiculous. Sterling has had 6 world cup games and todays and nothing to show for it.

Awful!
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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:40 pm

slow slow slow slow slow

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby DustyBawls » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:41 pm

When Sterling loses the ball, why doesn't he work his backside off to win it back? He just walks!

Loftus-Cheek is showing much more endeavour when he gets the ball.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vino blanco » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:43 pm

Sterling, Deli Alli and Linguard all overrated as international players.
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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby piston broke » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:44 pm

Luke Shaw will be our LB, when he gets away from Mourinho but Danny Rose is well short at international level.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby DustyBawls » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:46 pm

piston broke wrote:Danny Rose is well short at international level.


Agreed, but not convinced Shaw will be much of an improvement.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:48 pm

shambolic first half

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby DustyBawls » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:49 pm

Well, from the 45 minutes I've just seen, I think Loftus-Cheek possibly should have been given more minutes this tournament.

But we need to MOVE and find SPACE when we have the ball. We're simply not giving the player on the ball enough choices, so we're having to pass-pass-pass back or sideways.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:55 pm

Not enough movement and playing at far too slow a pace so we are easy to defend against.
Apart from a few exceptions, it is almost like they don't really want to be playing this match.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Blackrod » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:59 pm

Some teams were unlucky to go out with one narrow defeat. By the time we finish we could have lost 3 games and beaten one good team from open play only.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:03 pm

Sterling off Rashford on
Lingaard on for Rose
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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby tim_noone » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:03 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Not enough movement and playing at far too slow a pace so we are easy to defend against.
Apart from a few exceptions, it is almost like they don't really want to be playing this match.

Same old England??
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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby DustyBawls » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:04 pm

Blackrod wrote:Some teams were unlucky to go out with one narrow defeat. By the time we finish we could have lost 3 games and beaten one good team from open play only.


Look at how Portugal won the Euros.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:06 pm

Sterling will be just as effective on the bench. Just you watch.
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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:14 pm

Think i'd swap Kane for either Vardy or Danny Wellcrap, Kane just doesn't look mobile and he's not made a single run

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Shore claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:19 pm

Danny Rose is a shocking defender, when he was being touted as a 50 million pound player I couldn't stop laughing. We look devoid of ideas and not enough world class players.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby piston broke » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:24 pm

Tripps major strength is crossing the ball on the run. He bends the ball beautifully away from the keeper. We keep feeding him when he’s static and has a FB in front of him. Numerous occasions he’s wasted energy getting up there and they lay it inside, plonkers.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:25 pm

Anyone seen any Clarets flags over in Russia?
Not spotted any myself.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:26 pm

Tripps great cross and Kane stood watching, get him off ffs

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby BurnleyFC » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:26 pm

Gareth has probably told them that if they lose this game then they’ll have an easier route to the final.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:26 pm

Kane looked very slow when that cross just came in.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby BurnleyFC » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:27 pm

And Eric Dier still thinks we’ll turn Croatia over in the 2nd leg.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:27 pm

Kane does not look interested to be honest. He seems to be playing deep all the time so that when anything goes in the box he is too far away from it.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Shore claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:28 pm

Lovely football

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby DustyBawls » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:31 pm

Certainly better this half.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby KRBFC » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:31 pm

Completely forgot about this game, I'll be glad when this World Cup is over, booooooooooooring.... bring on club football.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:37 pm

where has this determination been for the last 75 mins ?

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:37 pm

Sterling much better this half

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:Completely forgot about this game, I'll be glad when this World Cup is over, booooooooooooring.... bring on club football.


any players taken your eye that could be realistic signings for us ?

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Pearcey » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:38 pm

KRBFC wrote:Completely forgot about this game, I'll be glad when this World Cup is over, booooooooooooring.... bring on club football.

You’re like a talkSPORT dj. Throw in a bizarre comment and wait for reaction. :-D

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Funkydrummer » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:38 pm

Now that is how to play football. :shock: :shock:

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:38 pm

save by pickford preventing the goal of the tournament

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby Buxtonclaret » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:39 pm

That was a breathtaking move then.
Great save to snuff it out too.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby DustyBawls » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:39 pm

It's not just Trippier's crossing, it's his vision. He sees things the majority of the other England players aren't really seeing. Another great game from him.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby KRBFC » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:40 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:any players taken your eye that could be realistic signings for us ?

Rebic, Quintero, Advincula.

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Re: Eng vs Bel

Postby piston broke » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:41 pm

Well I hope that is the end of Phil Jones international career.


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