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Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:05 pm
by DustyBawls
That was sh%t defending.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:07 pm
by Vegas Claret
dreadful in midfield, proper school boy stuff

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:08 pm
by kaptin1
Why are Rose’s socks full of holes?

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:10 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Belgium keep up this pace and clever football, England could get a real stuffing.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:14 pm
by DustyBawls
England go from 1st gear to 3rd, but it takes them longer than it takes Belgium to get from 1st to 5th.

They are certainly better than Croatia that's for sure.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:17 pm
by box_of_frogs
DustyBawls wrote:England go from 1st gear to 3rd, but it takes them longer than it takes Belgium to get from 1st to 5th.

They are certainly better than Croatia that's for sure.

I thought we hadn’t reached the lofty heights of 3rd gear yet......

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:18 pm
by Vegas Claret
They are light years ahead of us with the creative players they have, the gulf in class in the opening 18 mins is huge

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:18 pm
by Buxtonclaret
"They are certainly better than Croatia that's for sure."


Absolutely!
Belgium currently have one of the best sides in world football!

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:21 pm
by Claret
What on earth is Sterling doing on the pitch. All these folk saying he plays well.......I just don’t see it. He’s absolutely crap

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:22 pm
by kaptin1
Claret wrote:What on earth is Sterling doing on the pitch. All these folk saying he plays well.......I just don’t see it. He’s absolutely crap


He makes brilliant runs and gets himself into some really good positions but then invariably makes the wrong decision. So frustrating.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:23 pm
by kaptin1
And the one time he makes the right decision Kane hits it wide

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:26 pm
by Vegas Claret
gonna be a lot of weight on Phil Foden over the next few years, already much better than any of our midfielders. We've settled in the game now, looking a bit better

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:28 pm
by Claret
kaptin1 wrote:He makes brilliant runs and gets himself into some really good positions but then invariably makes the wrong decision. So frustrating.

We could do without his brilliant runs then nobody would pass to him and it would save all of us from wasting our time

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:36 pm
by DustyBawls
Belgium are playing well tactically, too. They know we won't create much so they're not really pressing us. Why bother when you know the opposition will eventually give you the ball back, anyway?

England need to try passing to players in less space, instead of only passing to players on their own. Watch what Belgium do - they'll dink a pass into a player who has players a few yards away, as that's how you create the chances. If you only pass to players in acres of space, it'll take 25 passes before you create a decent chance.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:38 pm
by International class
Sterling looks as though he's falling over when running with the ball. He's never fully in control of it. Defenders just have to wait knowing he'll cock it up.

Southgate was praised for his ruthless streak in getting shut of Rooney and Hart, but his blind loyalty to Sterling is ridiculous. Sterling has had 6 world cup games and todays and nothing to show for it.

Awful!

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:40 pm
by Vegas Claret
slow slow slow slow slow

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:41 pm
by DustyBawls
When Sterling loses the ball, why doesn't he work his backside off to win it back? He just walks!

Loftus-Cheek is showing much more endeavour when he gets the ball.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:43 pm
by Vino blanco
Sterling, Deli Alli and Linguard all overrated as international players.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:44 pm
by piston broke
Luke Shaw will be our LB, when he gets away from Mourinho but Danny Rose is well short at international level.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:46 pm
by DustyBawls
piston broke wrote:Danny Rose is well short at international level.


Agreed, but not convinced Shaw will be much of an improvement.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:48 pm
by Vegas Claret
shambolic first half

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:49 pm
by DustyBawls
Well, from the 45 minutes I've just seen, I think Loftus-Cheek possibly should have been given more minutes this tournament.

But we need to MOVE and find SPACE when we have the ball. We're simply not giving the player on the ball enough choices, so we're having to pass-pass-pass back or sideways.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:55 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
Not enough movement and playing at far too slow a pace so we are easy to defend against.
Apart from a few exceptions, it is almost like they don't really want to be playing this match.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:59 pm
by Blackrod
Some teams were unlucky to go out with one narrow defeat. By the time we finish we could have lost 3 games and beaten one good team from open play only.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:03 pm
by Vegas Claret
Sterling off Rashford on
Lingaard on for Rose

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:03 pm
by tim_noone
Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Not enough movement and playing at far too slow a pace so we are easy to defend against.
Apart from a few exceptions, it is almost like they don't really want to be playing this match.

Same old England??

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:04 pm
by DustyBawls
Blackrod wrote:Some teams were unlucky to go out with one narrow defeat. By the time we finish we could have lost 3 games and beaten one good team from open play only.


Look at how Portugal won the Euros.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:06 pm
by Claret
Sterling will be just as effective on the bench. Just you watch.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:14 pm
by Vegas Claret
Think i'd swap Kane for either Vardy or Danny Wellcrap, Kane just doesn't look mobile and he's not made a single run

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:19 pm
by Shore claret
Danny Rose is a shocking defender, when he was being touted as a 50 million pound player I couldn't stop laughing. We look devoid of ideas and not enough world class players.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:24 pm
by piston broke
Tripps major strength is crossing the ball on the run. He bends the ball beautifully away from the keeper. We keep feeding him when he’s static and has a FB in front of him. Numerous occasions he’s wasted energy getting up there and they lay it inside, plonkers.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:25 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Anyone seen any Clarets flags over in Russia?
Not spotted any myself.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:26 pm
by Vegas Claret
Tripps great cross and Kane stood watching, get him off ffs

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:26 pm
by BurnleyFC
Gareth has probably told them that if they lose this game then they’ll have an easier route to the final.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:26 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Kane looked very slow when that cross just came in.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:27 pm
by BurnleyFC
And Eric Dier still thinks we’ll turn Croatia over in the 2nd leg.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:27 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
Kane does not look interested to be honest. He seems to be playing deep all the time so that when anything goes in the box he is too far away from it.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:28 pm
by Shore claret
Lovely football

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:31 pm
by DustyBawls
Certainly better this half.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:31 pm
by KRBFC
Completely forgot about this game, I'll be glad when this World Cup is over, booooooooooooring.... bring on club football.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:37 pm
by Vegas Claret
where has this determination been for the last 75 mins ?

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:37 pm
by Claret
Sterling much better this half

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:37 pm
by Vegas Claret
KRBFC wrote:Completely forgot about this game, I'll be glad when this World Cup is over, booooooooooooring.... bring on club football.


any players taken your eye that could be realistic signings for us ?

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:38 pm
by Pearcey
KRBFC wrote:Completely forgot about this game, I'll be glad when this World Cup is over, booooooooooooring.... bring on club football.

You’re like a talkSPORT dj. Throw in a bizarre comment and wait for reaction. :-D

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:38 pm
by Funkydrummer
Now that is how to play football. :shock: :shock:

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:38 pm
by Vegas Claret
save by pickford preventing the goal of the tournament

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:39 pm
by Buxtonclaret
That was a breathtaking move then.
Great save to snuff it out too.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:39 pm
by DustyBawls
It's not just Trippier's crossing, it's his vision. He sees things the majority of the other England players aren't really seeing. Another great game from him.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:40 pm
by KRBFC
Vegas Claret wrote:any players taken your eye that could be realistic signings for us ?

Rebic, Quintero, Advincula.

Re: Eng vs Bel

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:41 pm
by piston broke
Well I hope that is the end of Phil Jones international career.