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Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:48 pm
by Japebe43
That's my feeling about you. Its almost as if your club is a bit embarrassed to have qualified.

I think the game plan remains the same as before. If I'm honest, can't blame them really.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:50 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Aye the plan at the start of last season was to get into Europe.

You belm.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:51 pm
by Japebe43
Bin Ont Turf wrote:Aye the plan at the start of last season was to get into Europe.

You belm.
Don't be harsh on me BOT.. :(

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:51 pm
by Vegas Claret
Japebe43 wrote:That's my feeling about you. Its almost as if your club is a bit embarrassed to have qualified.

I think the game plan remains the same as before. If I'm honest, can't blame them really.
The manager has said on numerous occasion that the priority is staying in the PL - surprised you've not seen the interviews being a closet Claret

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:52 pm
by fidelcastro
Embarrassed?

Ashamed we are, ASHAMED I TELL THEE!

;)

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:54 pm
by Japebe43
The point being, IMO they are absolutely right to keep things as if you'd never qualified.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:57 pm
by Dyched
Ive heard Dyche as booked his hotel room for the CL final 2020. I reckon he’ll keep us in Europe just in case we fall out of the top 4.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:09 pm
by Japebe43
Premier league is so precarious.. You can be up there one season, down there the next. Its a crazy league outside the top 6.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:13 pm
by Royboyclaret
Japebe43 wrote:The point being, IMO they are absolutely right to keep things as if you'd never qualified.
How might you know how they're "keeping things"?

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:14 pm
by fidelcastro
Royboyclaret wrote:How might you know how they're "keeping things"?
He doesn't.

:D

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:15 pm
by Pstotto
I'll bet three pounds. One for us to win the PL. One for us to be relegated and one for us to win the Europa league. Not sure if one could place a bet for us to finish 15th but the odds on such a thing should be very long indeed based on statistical possibility.

It wouldn't be allowed by the bookies, such a bet.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:15 pm
by Japebe43
Royboyclaret wrote:How might you know how they're "keeping things"?
Not buying players for the European games suggests that.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:20 pm
by KRBFC
Japebe43 wrote:Premier league is so precarious.. You can be up there one season, down there the next. Its a crazy league outside the top 6.
How would you know about that? minnows

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:22 pm
by Japebe43
For crying out loud.. Stop being so defensive.. I'm hardly criticising anything.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:24 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Japebe43 wrote:For crying out loud.. Stop being so defensive.. I'm hardly criticising anything.

Just stop posting. :)

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:24 pm
by Dyched
KRBFC wrote:How would you know about that? minnows
Tbf they’ve had by far more success in the PL than we have and fallen like a bucket of ****.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:24 pm
by Silkyskills1
Can't think that there are or even have been many clubs involved in European tournaments with anything resembling at best a medium term plan. Our record under Dyche in domestic cups since he took over stands at a poor 35% win in just 20 games so I've never accepted that he regards the upcoming tie as more than an unavoidable interruption to the real issue which begins a few weeks later in August. I have more concern about us picking up injuries we could do without(certainly at the moment) due to any intensity the Scottish team might exert in what they will see as a major coup before they take on Kilmarnock, Dundee and St. Mirren in their quest to remain top of the league where they currently now sit.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:25 pm
by Japebe43
Bin Ont Turf wrote:Just stop posting. :)
No .. :)

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:28 pm
by KRBFC
Dyched wrote:Tbf they’ve had by far more success in the PL than we have and fallen like a bucket of ****.
They bought a title, good for them.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:30 pm
by Japebe43
KRBFC wrote:They bought a title, good for them.
That was 1 year.. What about the other 20 odd successful years in the prem?

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:33 pm
by KRBFC
Japebe43 wrote:That was 1 year.. What about the other 20 odd successful years in the prem?
Walker pumped in his millions to give you a footing to simply survive for a while. You hung around like a bad smell for a while longer than expected

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:34 pm
by Japebe43
KRBFC wrote:Walker pumped in his millions to give you a footing to simply survive for a while. You hung around like a bad smell for a while longer than expected
We did a bit better than simply survive most seasons.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:38 pm
by KRBFC
Japebe43 wrote:We did a bit better than simply survive most seasons.
Paul Ince worked his magic ;)

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:41 pm
by Japebe43
KRBFC wrote:Paul Ince worked his magic ;)
Be careful there.. You may have to replace dyche some day.. ;)

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:44 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Japebe43 wrote:We did a bit better than simply survive most seasons.
Floated around mid table most of the time.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:47 pm
by Japebe43
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Floated around mid table most of the time.
Top 10 most of the time.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:56 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Japebe43 wrote:Top 10 most of the time.
Finished half of the time 10th or below.

You can argue this back and forth if you want, but you'll have to find someone else to play with, you're already boring me to death.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:04 pm
by Japebe43
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Finished half of the time 10th or below.

You can argue this back and forth if you want, but you'll have to find someone else to play with, you're already boring me to death.
I'm boring myself to death.. I didn't want to have this conversation.. The thread is about Burnley.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:15 pm
by Ric_C
Oh great, a Scottish Saxoman

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:53 pm
by KRBFC
Ric_C wrote:Oh great, a Scottish Saxoman
I'm almost sure that is Saxo under a different username.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:54 pm
by Japebe43
KRBFC wrote:I'm almost sure that is Saxo under a different username.
Don't think I've hidden it since the world cup ended.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:58 pm
by dsr
Japebe43 wrote:Premier league is so precarious.. You can be up there one season, down there the next. Its a crazy league outside the top 6.
Exactly. I can see the truth in your point; what I don't see is that you conclude that when you are in the Premier League you must do your level best not to win anything or do anything memorable. Presumably the idea is that when you inevitably do get relegated, you don't have any fond memories so you won't regret not being there?

I reckon football - at least for the fans - is about glory, not money. The pitch invasion after promotion was to celebrate winning something. We didn't have a pitch invasion on the (equally financially valuable) occasion when we clinched a top-17 finish in the Premier.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:59 pm
by boatshed bill
On topic, I'm sure getting into Europe this season was not part of last season's plan.
Nevermind, perhaps we'll get through a few rounds and have a bit of fun with it.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:01 pm
by KRBFC
Japebe43 wrote:Don't think I've hidden it since the world cup ended.
Why the username change?

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:04 pm
by Japebe43
dsr wrote:Exactly. I can see the truth in your point; what I don't see is that you conclude that when you are in the Premier League you must do your level best not to win anything or do anything memorable. Presumably the idea is that when you inevitably do get relegated, you don't have any fond memories so you won't regret not being there?

I reckon football - at least for the fans - is about glory, not money. The pitch invasion after promotion was to celebrate winning something. We didn't have a pitch invasion on the (equally financially valuable) occasion when we clinched a top-17 finish in the Premier.
I appreciate that, but its important to establish yourselves in the premier league. Your not there yet. Its easy to get carried away by last season and I think key players at your club are aware of that.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:05 pm
by Japebe43
KRBFC wrote:Why the username change?
I think that's obvious.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:06 pm
by dsr
Japebe43 wrote:I appreciate that, but its important to establish yourselves in the premier league. Your not there yet. Its easy to get carried away by last season and I think key players at your club are aware of that.
You're arguing that only the top 6 are safe, everyone else is permanently precarious, and therefore we ought to wait until we're established before trying to win things? If you're trolling, please troll consistently.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:07 pm
by boatshed bill
Japebe43 wrote:I think that's obvious.
Not a lot of point, though, since you've told everyone ;)

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:07 pm
by Stayingup
Japebe43 wrote:That's my feeling about you. Its almost as if your club is a bit embarrassed to have qualified.

I think the game plan remains the same as before. If I'm honest, can't blame them really.
Who the hell are you?

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:08 pm
by Japebe43
dsr wrote:You're arguing that only the top 6 are safe, everyone else is permanently precarious, and therefore we ought to wait until we're established before trying to win things? If you're trolling, please troll consistently.
You've summed it up perfectly.. Why would that be trolling?

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:09 pm
by Stayingup
Japebe43 wrote:The point being, IMO they are absolutely right to keep things as if you'd never qualified.
Stick to your own shambles of a team. And lay off the chicken and Chipatis.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:09 pm
by KRBFC
Stayingup wrote:Who the hell are you?
meet Saxo, a basturds fan.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:10 pm
by Japebe43
Stayingup wrote:Who the hell are you?
I'm batman.. :roll:

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:11 pm
by dsr
Japebe43 wrote:You've summed it up perfectly.. Why would that be trolling?
You're seriously suggesting that we wait until we're a "top 6" club? Ambitious.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:13 pm
by Japebe43
dsr wrote:You're seriously suggesting that we wait until we're a "top 6" club? Ambitious.
Well.. More like an Everton.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:21 pm
by dsr
I prefer "seize the moment". Or "tomorrow never comes." I don't want to look back on the only time Burnley ever qualified for Europe and they didn't even try. I'd rather try and fail (like Blackburn) than not try at all.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:24 pm
by Japebe43
dsr wrote:I prefer "seize the moment". Or "tomorrow never comes." I don't want to look back on the only time Burnley ever qualified for Europe and they didn't even try. I'd rather try and fail (like Blackburn) than not try at all.
To be honest, I think even Everton went understrength in the Europa.. Though that was before the champs league prize I think.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:27 pm
by dsr
Japebe43 wrote:To be honest, I think even Everton went understrength in the Europa.. Though that was before the champs league prize I think.
So if we play under strength teams, we might have a season like Everton last year? You aren't selling it. Bear in mind that we have half their money if we're lucky, so if we go into full-Everton meltdown like they did, we're relegated.

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:30 pm
by Japebe43
dsr wrote:So if we play under strength teams, we might have a season like Everton last year? You aren't selling it. Bear in mind that we have half their money if we're lucky, so if we go into full-Everton meltdown like they did, we're relegated.
Don't think Everton were in Europe last year were they?

Re: Europe not part of the plan.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:40 pm
by Silkyskills1
Japebe43 wrote:Don't think Everton were in Europe last year were they?
Great exchanging posts with someone who does their research isn't it? Jesus wept!