Pope better than Alisson and Ederson

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:26 pm

I must admit that I'm not fully convinced but this (rather stats heavy) article suggests it's a possibility

https://www.stats.com/industry-analysis ... ne-attack/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:30 pm

Alisson maybe from the little i've seen of him i'm not convinced but Ederson? not in a million years.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:45 pm

KRBFC wrote:Alisson maybe from the little i've seen of him i'm not convinced but Ederson? not in a million years.

Opinions, eh! I thought what I saw of Ederson last season was better than what I saw of Alisson at the world cup

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:46 pm

piston broke wrote:Opinions, eh! I thought what I saw of Ederson last season was better than what I saw of Alisson at the world cup

Yeah I agree

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:02 pm

Some people are getting a little carried away with Pope. He's a young man learning his trade. Yes he did very well for us last season, the icing on the cake being called up by England but let's be realistic. He needs several consistent seasons with us before any big move. He's a long, long way short of being anywhere near the quality of Ederson.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:05 pm

beddie wrote:Some people are getting a little carried away with Pope. He's a young man learning his trade. Yes he did very well for us last season, the icing on the cake being called up by England but let's be realistic. He needs several consistent seasons with us before any big move. He's a long, long way short of being anywhere near the quality of Ederson.

Does he? Why? How many had Ederson had before his €40m move?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:12 pm

That comparison puts Pope as the best keeper at stopping goals and literaljy streets ahead of Pickford. He is better than Pickford at short and much better than everyone at penetrating the final third, accurately.

He should be England's keeper without a doubt! Southgate has literally just gone with a player he had at U21, rather than the best in all departments!

Nick Pope- best in the world to be!

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:21 pm

Personally my view is that those long ball percentages are boosted somewhat by the fact that there was always one big man and usually two to hit. Launching long balls at Gabriel Jesus is somewhat different to Ashley Barnes.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:45 pm

MDWat wrote:Does he? Why? How many had Ederson had before his €40m move?

Exactly do all these stats take into consideration the 4 guys in front of him (usually 4) the defence, surely that influences the stats to a large degree as 1 keeper is likely to be busier than the other. Don't really rate stats with goalkeepers unless it's spot kicks 1 to 1 scenarios.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:10 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:Exactly do all these stats take into consideration the 4 guys in front of him (usually 4) the defence, surely that influences the stats to a large degree as 1 keeper is likely to be busier than the other. Don't really rate stats with goalkeepers unless it's spot kicks 1 to 1 scenarios.

For all anyone knows he's under instruction to kick long. makes sense to me.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:46 pm

If our second best keeper is better than brazils first and second choice weve come a longer way than I thought.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:49 pm

But he's no longer our second best keeper is he.

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