Our transfer dealings are poor

s6t9a2f3f · Post by **s6t9a2f3f** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:24 pm

We are cringeworthy with our highlighting players within our transfer/pay structure and then once thats done making our approach and getting that deal over the line. I know we cant bankrupt the club but if this current manager has not proved his worth by deserving a "slight pushing the boat out" from his board and getting the quality player/players he wants/needs then no manager in our history will ever do it. Keep hearing world cup this and world cup that ? which players have we been linked to / can afford that have been involved in the world cup ? the players we are after have been sat with their agents at home watching the world cup on the telly. Thats the time to strike and get the deals done and get players in for pre season as these players have to buy into the managers team ethics / style of play and fitness level. We have never had the luxury like we did last season were we knew "around xmas time" we were not getting relegated and what have we done with that "advantage" ? nothing.
If we cant afford current premiership players then top level championship players of clubs not promoted should be seeked out like your Hendricks and Brady not play ping pong with west broms and notts forest of this world and get nowhere.

Just my opinion

Brian

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:30 pm

*sought*

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:34 pm

IT'S ******* HENDRICK

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:34 pm

Anyone envy the life of Brian ?

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:35 pm

Thank God, it's just your opinion.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:35 pm

Jesus wept

Wilsdenclaret · Post by **Wilsdenclaret** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:36 pm

spadesclaret wrote:*sought*

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:36 pm

I really do hope that you feel a hell of a lot better after getting all that off your chest.
Personally, I prefer just to wait and see if anything happens and not to worry because they don't consult me about transfer dealings or anything else for that matter. I am never, ever stressed about football or anything else for that matter, you shoudl try it.

Wilsdenclaret · Post by **Wilsdenclaret** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:37 pm

Nice try 5/10

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:39 pm

Why do people automatically jump on the defensive?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:39 pm

We have at least one thread like this every transfer window and somehow we've just finished in our highest league position for 40 odd years and are about to embark on our first European campaign in 52 years.

We must be doing something right.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:41 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why do people automatically jump on the defensive?

Because it’s Burnley.

And we finished 7th don’t you know.

I hope it’s just a case of business on the quiet rather than a repeat of previous windows.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:42 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why do people automatically jump on the defensive?

Because its cool to back the club and never slate them. Maybe a little over the top this OP but a lot of it is truth. We knew we were safe at xmas....deals should have virtually been done then. Nobody can tell me that we didnt know we needed a centre half, winger and possibly a no 10. Yet whats happened...... we are going aftef players we have been trying to get for several seasons and had no luck

Wilsdenclaret · Post by **Wilsdenclaret** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:44 pm

Drama Kings

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:45 pm

Don't see too much wrong with what Brian's saying there.

keith1879 · Post by **keith1879** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:48 pm

I think the title after the hyphen is very appropriate

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:50 pm

YES WHY THE F DIDN'T WE MAKE A STATEMENT AND SIGN BENTEKE FOR EXAMPLE ?
I feel better and calmer now.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:50 pm

Last seven or eight transfer windows, same old, same as, threads.
And each season we've finished higher in the leagues than the season before.
Utter dross on here sometimes.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:54 pm

I agree with the sentiment expressed by Brian.

I don't think it is the board though, I think it is Dyche. Prior to Sean taking control we used to make our dealing much sooner and from different sources than the UK.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:56 pm

ClaretEngineer wrote:Because it’s Burnley.

And we finished 7th don’t you know.

I hope it’s just a case of business on the quiet rather than a repeat of previous windows.

Yeah like we all do, It's pretty pathetic the way people on here act when they read something they disagree with. The OP is OTT but did he really deserve such a hostile response from supposed fellow fans of the same team?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:56 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:Last seven or eight transfer windows, same old, same as, threads.
And each season we've finished higher in the leagues than the season before.
Utter dross on here sometimes.

Stop defending the club we deserve better then finishing higher than the season before.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:57 pm

It’s easy this buying players malarkey. I do it all the time on champ manager. Nearest most of us get to it is buying a house. You see one you like and generally helpfully they have a price tag attached. Image if every house just had ‘offers’ as its price tag. You can draw up countless shortlists. But you know you don’t want to offer over the odds so I’d love to know how to get the house you want for a good price. It really ist that simple. Recruitment is the day job of our chairman so maybe just maybe he knows what he is doing.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:58 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Because its cool to back the club and never slate them. Maybe a little over the top this OP but a lot of it is truth. We knew we were safe at xmas....deals should have virtually been done then. Nobody can tell me that we didnt know we needed a centre half, winger and possibly a no 10. Yet whats happened...... we are going aftef players we have been trying to get for several seasons and had no luck

We'll get the players in, we'll likely end up blinking first and just paying the asking prices as the clock ticks. This guy wasn't abusive yet got met with abuse which will go unpunished because it's clearly an unpopular opinion, but it's his opinion.

Wilsdenclaret · Post by **Wilsdenclaret** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah like we all do, It's pretty pathetic the way people on here act when they read something they disagree with. The OP is OTT but did he really deserve such a hostile response from supposed fellow fans of the same team?

yes, yes he did

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:00 pm

Wilsdenclaret wrote:yes, yes he did

Why because people simply can't handle reading something they disagree with, without losing their s**t on the internet.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:01 pm

andyh wrote:It’s easy this buying players malarkey. I do it all the time on champ manager.

HOUSE!!!

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:01 pm

keith1879 wrote:I think the title after the hyphen is very appropriate

Only if the "we" refers to the people who keep criticising the club's transfer policy.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:01 pm

The manager seemed fairly adamant (although not confident) that we would have to break our transfer record to get in at least one of his targets

The Chairman states our transfer budget for this year will be higher than last

Wonder how far those two thoughts are apart in terms of real cash available to spend ?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:02 pm

Name calling is unnecessary simply because a fellow Clarets fan dares to express an opinion on the club

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:02 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Only if the "we" refers to the people who keep criticising the club's transfer policy.

Yeah I can't for the life of me work out why, any idea?

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:03 pm

......

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:09 pm

Unfortunately, I think some on here really believe that you can constantly challenge the top six if you get your transfer policy right. It takes far more money than we will ever have, unless someone sinks many millions into the club.

The fact that we were close to Arsenal last season, and when Leicester won the league was more to do with the fact the clubs above us were struggling somewhat.

We finished in a position of 7th where the vast majority of clubs outside the top six will never achieve without serious funding.

We did that without throwing unlimited funds at players both in transfer fees and wages.

We DON'T need to spend like many suggest.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why because people simply can't handle reading something they disagree with, without losing their s**t on the internet.

Pot kettle black.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:15 pm

Entitled to his opinion like everyone else on here,because it dosent fit with the majority though he gets ridiculed give him a break guys hes a Claret like the rest of us...much love everyone xxx

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:16 pm

Spijed wrote:Unfortunately, I think some on here really believe that you can constantly challenge the top six if you get your transfer policy right. It takes far more money than we will ever have, unless someone sinks many millions into the club.

The fact that we were close to Arsenal last season, and when Leicester won the league was more to do with the fact the clubs above us were struggling somewhat.

We finished in a position of 7th where the vast majority of clubs outside the top six will never achieve without serious funding.

We did that without throwing unlimited funds at players both in transfer fees and wages.

We DON'T need to spend like many suggest.

Dyche worked his magic, the OP is saying Dyche deserves for the board to ''push the boat out'' on a few of his main targets and really back him and I don't disagree with that part of his post at all, hopefully the board will do that, we just have to wait and see.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:20 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah I can't for the life of me work out why, any idea?

Not really.

The transfer policy seems pretty successful to me, given the success we've been having in recent years.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:24 pm

"last season were we knew "around xmas time" we were not getting relegated and what have we done with that "advantage" ? nothing."
Apart from press on and push Arsenal for sixth place right until a few games from the end.
Dyche will clearly buy the players he thinks we need when he thinks we need them - subject to price.
It's worked every damn season he's been here, I see no reason why this one should be any different.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:26 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why because people simply can't handle reading something they disagree with, without losing their s**t on the internet.

Not the first time this has happened this week

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:27 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:I really do hope that you feel a hell of a lot better after getting all that off your chest.
Personally, I prefer just to wait and see if anything happens and not to worry because they don't consult me about transfer dealings or anything else for that matter. I am never, ever stressed about football or anything else for that matter, you shoudl try it.

It's true, he isn't as I do the stressing for him these last few years. Very easy as I have a lot of stressing to do and still have much left for those who are stressless about our lack of numbers

BertiesBeehole · Post by **BertiesBeehole** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:28 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah like we all do, It's pretty pathetic the way people on here act when they read something they disagree with. The OP is OTT but did he really deserve such a hostile response from supposed fellow fans of the same team?

Pot Kettle Black

BertiesBeehole · Post by **BertiesBeehole** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:30 pm

Jimscho wrote:Pot kettle black.

Beat me to it - great minds and all that!

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:31 pm

The thing is i reckon everyone is a tad concerned about no signings as yet
Would have been nice to have had at least one in and shaping into our ethnic

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:36 pm

Or even into our ethic given we are a little cosmopolitan with the old ethnic

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:43 pm

Longside4evr wrote:The thing is i reckon everyone is a tad concerned about no signings as yet
Would have been nice to have had at least one in and shaping into our ethnic

Sorry, Longside4evr ---not everyone is a tad concerned, perhaps most, but definitely not everyone!

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:44 pm

We’ll never have a better chance of breaking into the top 4 or indeed doing a Leicester (yes they may have had a billionaire backer but like us in every other way)In years to come we will look back at our inept transfer dealings under Dyche and wonder just what ruddy could have been!

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:46 pm

There doesn't seem to be any news on any outgoings. Are none of our players in demand? Finishing 7th suggests we did something right last season.Perhaps we are the club that are difficult to deal with.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:46 pm

I'm just wondering how something that we are apparently not doing can be described as poor?
it's a bit like saying the invisible man was ugly

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:47 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:We’ll never have a better chance of breaking into the top 4 or indeed doing a Leicester (yes they may have had a billionaire backer but like us in every other way)In years to come we will look back at our inept transfer dealings under Dyche and wonder just what ruddy could have been!

Yeah the OP definitely said that....... lets also pretend he said Burnley could win the World Cup, Yes Burnley in the World Cup, he actually says that, can't believe he said that!!! OMG

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:11 pm

The reason we are successful is not because of the transfer policy but because Dyche continues to get miracles out of the players. At the start of last season he was saying don't expect a miracle again , yet produced an even better miracle.

Whatever squad he has been able to put together he has got more out of those players than any other manager could achieve, which has been masking to an extent some of our failings in the transfer window.

Going back to our first season in the premier league, if we had pushed the boat out and were decisive in getting his two main targets early in the window, Deeney and Dawson, there is no way we would have been relegated and the investment would have given a much bigger return.

This is why its so frustrating , give Dyche more quality and there is no reason why we will not be even more successful. Simples.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:18 pm

northeastclaret wrote:The reason we are successful is not because of the transfer policy but because Dyche continues to get miracles out of the players. At the start of last season he was saying don't expect a miracle again , yet produced an even better miracle.

Whatever squad he has been able to put together he has got more out of those players than any other manager could achieve, which has been masking to an extent some of our failings in the transfer window.

Going back to our first season in the premier league, if we had pushed the boat out and were decisive in getting his two main targets early in the window, Deeney and Dawson, with their premier league experience, there is no way we would have been relegated and the investment would have given a much bigger return.

This is why its so frustrating , give Dyche more quality and there is no reason why we will not be even more successful. Simples.

Maybe the reason SD is able to get miracles out of the players is because our transfer policy is to bring in the type of player that SD can get miracles out of.