ARTICLE: Two part draw for next round of Europa League

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:01 pm

It's even more confusing than a League Cup draw, but all the teams who are in the draw are shown at

http://www.uptheclarets.com/two-part-dr ... opa-league" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It's even more confusing than a League Cup draw, but all the teams who are in the draw are shown at

http://www.uptheclarets.com/two-part-dr ... opa-league" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"It's even more confusing"... I don't know what you mean

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:29 pm

Not even going to try and work out who we could get. Might not even watch the draw. Last one made no sense.

Hopefully someone in russia or kazakhstan

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:32 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Last one made no sense.

I wouldn't build up your hopes for this one either

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:36 pm

The previous draw was certainly complicated last time but at least it was done and dusted very quickly!

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:37 pm

Do you need 8000 points to understand it ?

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:40 pm

Planning in case, rather than assuming we will, beat Aberdeen, what do you want to come out tomorrow?

Winner of Sevilla and Újpest for me although we have a 1 in 4 chance of knowing exactly who we're trying to get through to play against.

Edit: If I understand seeding, we can't get them

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:48 pm

Seems pretty straight forward. 13 teams entering at 3rd round phase highlighted, the 37 winners of the second round matches we are in and the loses of the two Champions League path games highlighted.

The key information which I havent checked to see whether its available is who are the 26 seeds as this will narrow down who we can play

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:50 pm

We’ll get Hibernian.

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:00 pm

Wow, Luzern would be a fabulous trip. An afternoon in the old city by the river would be special. Vienna would be very nice too.

ClaretGent · Post by **ClaretGent** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:01 pm

As the winners of Burnley v Aberdeen will be seeded in the 3rd Qualifying round, here are the 26 potential unseeded opponents:

Team in bold is the seeded team from the 2nd Qualifying round.
Last column is the UEFA coefficient. For reference Aberdeen's coefficient is 4.000.

There is a 23% chance of getting a straight draw and 8% chance of getting an either/or draw against a British team.

Tobol (Kazakhstan) or Pyunik (Armenia) please!

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:02 pm

Had a dream that we got Rangers. It's nailed on lads.

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:20 pm

Could we potentially draw Rangers or are they and Hibernian kept apart from us due to us playing Aberdeen in this round?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:20 pm

taio wrote:The previous draw was certainly complicated last time but at least it was done and dusted very quickly!

Easy for you to say. I was sat in a layby for 2 hours waiting for it to start! I could have got arrested for kerb crawling!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:21 pm

agreenwood wrote:We’ll get Hibernian.

I said this. Then get beat of Rangers in the round after!

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:31 pm

There are a few useful teams in there notably Rio Ave, İstanbul Başakşehir and Chelsea's Dutch Club.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:38 pm

Think we might be getting a bit ahead of ourselves !!!

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:41 pm

Split or Sofia looks good. Interesting enough. Not impossible to get to.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:43 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Think we might be getting a bit ahead of ourselves !!!

I'll mention that to Gianni Infantino. Draws to be made on the day of the match to negate your concerns. Will that work?

Dublin7Claret · Post by **Dublin7Claret** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:29 pm

Dundalk

Jmw · Post by **Jmw** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:36 pm

Dy1geo wrote:Could we potentially draw Rangers or are they and Hibernian kept apart from us due to us playing Aberdeen in this round?

We can’t get either hibs or rangers in case it is Aberdeen going through Usual rule on not playing teams from same association.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:48 pm

ecc wrote:There are a few useful teams in there notably Rio Ave, İstanbul Başakşehir and Chelsea's Dutch Club.

I want Chelsea's B team out, Steaua Bucharest would be the dream tie at some point but I'll settle for Constanta

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:58 pm

We are seeded of course, as are Aberdeen (the highest seed of the two opponents takes precedence) so we cannot get one of the other twenty-odd seeds.

It will focus the mind for Thursday, that’s for sure.

ClaretGent · Post by **ClaretGent** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:05 am

As Dy1geo and Jmw have rightly pointed out, the winners of Burnley v Aberdeen will not be drawn against Hibs/Asteras Tripolis or Osijek/Rangers, due to UEFA rules to avoid teams from the same country being drawn against each other. I’ve updated the table to reflect this. Also added in the ground capacities. There are quite a few tiny stadiums!

Also on my travels around the internet I came across a few random facts about the teams in the draw:

Luhansk (Ukraine) – in located in the conflict zone in eastern Ukraine. They now play matches in Zaporizhzhia in Central Ukraine, 400km away
Mariupol (Ukraine) – 25km from front line of the conflict. Has been attacked several times. A trip there could be quite hairy
Dynamo Minsk (Belarus) – play at the Tractor Stadium
Shakhtyor Soligorsk (Belarus) – nickname is ‘The Moles’
St. Gallen (Switzerland) – the oldest football club still in existence in continental Europe (1879)
Sarpsborg 08 (Norway) – only 10 years old
Viitorul Constanța (Romania) – only 9 years old! Owned and managed by Gheorghe Hagi
Dynamo Brest (Belarus) – chairman is Diego Maradona. Wonder what kind of reception he would get on t’Turf!
FK Žalgiris (Lithuania) – thankfully they can’t be drawn against Hibs. Could get a bit confusing! (See below):

FC Vaduz (Liechtenstein) – play in the Swiss second division
Balzan FC (Malta) – official website doesn’t seem to have been updated for 2 years!
FC Tobol (Kazakhstan) – 2610 miles from Burnley as the crow flies!

Dare to dream!

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:10 am

Lech Poznan please. Relatively easy to get to, cheap beer and plenty of tickets!

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:27 am

I'd like either Honved or Hadjuk Split. Two historic teams and two great places to visit

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:25 am

BurnleyIsWonderful wrote:As Dy1geo and Jmw have rightly pointed out, the winners of Burnley v Aberdeen will not be drawn against Hibs/Asteras Tripolis or Osijek/Rangers, due to UEFA rules to avoid teams from the same country being drawn against each other. I’ve updated the table to reflect this. Also added in the ground capacities. There are quite a few tiny stadiums!

Also on my travels around the internet I came across a few random facts about the teams in the draw:

Luhansk (Ukraine) – in located in the conflict zone in eastern Ukraine. They now play matches in Zaporizhzhia in Central Ukraine, 400km away
Mariupol (Ukraine) – 25km from front line of the conflict. Has been attacked several times. A trip there could be quite hairy
Dynamo Minsk (Belarus) – play at the Tractor Stadium
Shakhtyor Soligorsk (Belarus) – nickname is ‘The Moles’
St. Gallen (Switzerland) – the oldest football club still in existence in continental Europe (1879)
Sarpsborg 08 (Norway) – only 10 years old
Viitorul Constanța (Romania) – only 9 years old! Owned and managed by Gheorghe Hagi
Dynamo Brest (Belarus) – chairman is Diego Maradona. Wonder what kind of reception he would get on t’Turf!
FK Žalgiris (Lithuania) – thankfully they can’t be drawn against Hibs. Could get a bit confusing! (See below):

FC Vaduz (Liechtenstein) – play in the Swiss second division
Balzan FC (Malta) – official website doesn’t seem to have been updated for 2 years!
FC Tobol (Kazakhstan) – 2610 miles from Burnley as the crow flies!

Dare to dream!

Thanks for that. Good effort.

Even at this stage there are some vey tough places to go of we are fortunate enough to pass aberdeen.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:27 am

agreenwood wrote:We’ll get Hibernian.

I don't think we can get Hibs. I'm assuming two teams from one country cannot meet and with it being Aberdeen or Burnley it would rule out another Scottish opponent.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:35 am

Think I read somewhere we cant get Hibs or Rangers. Something to do with Aberdeen not being able to meet a team from their own country

Hbclaret007 · Post by **Hbclaret007** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:43 am

I'm sick of being told what to do by Europe -
Making football complicated - B******S
It is time we did a football exit and stood on our own
We invented the bleeding game
We could arrange our own games in the USA, India and other great footballing nations
We just don't need them.
I'm sick of sending all our hard earned Sky money to the Europe bureaucrats
Some of our own English teams, unable to qualify for the Europa can barely afford 50 Million to buy poor players like Richarlison!
The money we save from sending it all to Europa could fix this at a stroke.
It's time to make a stand - get out the battle bus
Come on Nigel - where are you? - let's be 'avin you!

CS24 · Post by **CS24** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:07 am

Latest from UEFA:

These are the reams we can get drawn against:

6 Tobol Kostanay (KAZ) v Pyunik (ARM)
7 Dunajská Streda (SVK) v Dinamo Minsk (BLR)
8 St. Gallen (SUI) v Sarpsborg (NOR)
9 Dundalk (IRL) v AEK Larnaca(CYP)
10 İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR)

Source: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/s ... 8/?iv=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:08 am

Any of them nice sea side towns?

CS24 · Post by **CS24** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:10 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Any of them nice sea side towns?

Only Larnaca from Cyprus. Istanbul is also nice. As a Romanian Claret, I would have hoped for a Romanian opponent.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:13 am

CS24 wrote:Latest from UEFA:

These are the reams we can get drawn against:

6 Tobol Kostanay (KAZ) v Pyunik (ARM)
7 Dunajská Streda (SVK) v Dinamo Minsk (BLR)
8 St. Gallen (SUI) v Sarpsborg (NOR)
9 Dundalk (IRL) v AEK Larnaca(CYP)
10 İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR)

Source: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/s ... 8/?iv=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Happy with this.

Minsk was the first team I Wanted to draw originally - Maradonna effect. Ignore me. He is at Brest. But Belarus would still be good.
Turkey Kazakhstan and Armenia would be great.
Dundalk easy to get to and would guarantee a good turnout.
Larnaca would be a nice holiday.
Norway, Slovakia and Switzerland are easy to get to.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:22 am

Theoretically we could get drawn against a tea in kazakhstan. And only find out on 2nd if we play them before playing them on the 9th

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:24 am

CS24 wrote:Latest from UEFA:

These are the reams we can get drawn against:

6 Tobol Kostanay (KAZ) v Pyunik (ARM)
7 Dunajská Streda (SVK) v Dinamo Minsk (BLR)
8 St. Gallen (SUI) v Sarpsborg (NOR)
9 Dundalk (IRL) v AEK Larnaca(CYP)
10 İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR)

Source: https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/s ... 8/?iv=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's an update on yesterday

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:26 am

Kostanay is a 25 hour drive from Almaty, 9 hours from Astana (the capital) and 30 hours from moscow. Its only 60 from Burnley! Find out Thursday, set off Friday.

edison · Post by **edison** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:27 am

I'm content to wait and see, rather than torment myself with either/or scenarios

CS24 · Post by **CS24** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:30 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Theoretically we could get drawn against a tea in kazakhstan. And only find out on 2nd if we play them before playing them on the 9th

We could find out this Thursday if we smash Aberdeen

ClaretGent · Post by **ClaretGent** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:31 am

Here's the updated table ranked in coefficient order:

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:33 am

£735 flights to st gallen but you do get to stop in ibiza along the way.

IN.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:50 am

St Gallen sounds like the hardest game if they get through....

All decent trips except the Armenia or Kazakh option.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:51 am

quoonbeatz wrote:£735 flights to st gallen but you do get to stop in ibiza along the way.

IN.

£600 indirect to Almatay before a 25 hour drive north for the kazakh side.

Thinking of buying a camper and setting off from Aberdeen!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:53 am

Hibsclaret wrote:St Gallen sounds like the hardest game if they get through....

All decent trips except the Armenia or Kazakh option.

St Gallen won their first game of the season - 2-1 away to BAsel!

CarlesTheClaretPuyol · Post by **CarlesTheClaretPuyol** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:59 am

Given my morning has been dedicated to this, I thought I'd share the capacities, according to Wikipedia....., and therefore quantities and likelihood of tickets being secured -

6 Tobol Kostanay (KAZ) 8,323 v Pyunik (ARM) 14,403
7 Dunajská Streda 9,901 (under renovation) (SVK) v Dinamo Minsk (BLR)17,600
8 St. Gallen (SUI) 17,317 v Sarpsborg (NOR) 4,700
9 Dundalk (IRL) 4,500 (3,000 seated) v AEK Larnaca(CYP) 7,400
10 İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR) 17,319

Flights to some of the major cities in and around these places aren't cheap either.

See you in the play off round (hopefully).

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:01 am

This looks the best of the stadiums we could visit. Looks like we could easily find it after 8 pints of Armenian Cognac too!

Vazgen Sargsyan Republican Stadium (Armenian: Վազգեն Սարգսյանի անվան Հանրապետական մարզադաշտ) also known as the Republican Stadium (Armenian: Հանրապետական մարզադաշտ. Hanrapetakan Stadium)

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:03 am

Am I the only one who isn't remotely bothered who we get because we've got two tough games v Aberdeen first?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:15 am

BurnleyIsWonderful wrote:As Dy1geo and Jmw have rightly pointed out, the winners of Burnley v Aberdeen will not be drawn against Hibs/Asteras Tripolis or Osijek/Rangers, due to UEFA rules to avoid teams from the same country being drawn against each other. I’ve updated the table to reflect this. Also added in the ground capacities. There are quite a few tiny stadiums!

Also on my travels around the internet I came across a few random facts about the teams in the draw:

Luhansk (Ukraine) – in located in the conflict zone in eastern Ukraine. They now play matches in Zaporizhzhia in Central Ukraine, 400km away
Mariupol (Ukraine) – 25km from front line of the conflict. Has been attacked several times. A trip there could be quite hairy
Dynamo Minsk (Belarus) – play at the Tractor Stadium
Shakhtyor Soligorsk (Belarus) – nickname is ‘The Moles’
St. Gallen (Switzerland) – the oldest football club still in existence in continental Europe (1879)
Sarpsborg 08 (Norway) – only 10 years old
Viitorul Constanța (Romania) – only 9 years old! Owned and managed by Gheorghe Hagi
Dynamo Brest (Belarus) – chairman is Diego Maradona. Wonder what kind of reception he would get on t’Turf!
FK Žalgiris (Lithuania) – thankfully they can’t be drawn against Hibs. Could get a bit confusing! (See below):

FC Vaduz (Liechtenstein) – play in the Swiss second division
Balzan FC (Malta) – official website doesn’t seem to have been updated for 2 years!
FC Tobol (Kazakhstan) – 2610 miles from Burnley as the crow flies!

Dare to dream!

There are a few grounds there smaller than Stanley's so don't expect too many tickets. I think it will take us getting much further before we get very many away tickets.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:18 am

Anyone know if there’s a stream for the draw?

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:18 am

CS24 wrote:Only Larnaca from Cyprus. Istanbul is also nice. As a Romanian Claret, I would have hoped for a Romanian opponent.

Hi CS24, don't mean to hijack the thread but I travel to Bucharest a few times a year with work, whereabouts in Romania do you live?