5 in. 4 out. Job Done. Let's Go.

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:33 am

Bit of optimism this morning. Garlick's going to wake up and think you only live once..

IN:
Dawson £18m
Mawson £20m
Bryan £6m
Clucas £13m
Rodriguez £20m

OUT:
Bardsley Free
Long £6m
Walters Free
Wells £4m

Net Spend - £66m's worth of dry powder.

Leaves us with

POPE
heaton

LOWTON TARKOWSKI MEE WARD
dawson mawson taylor bryan

GUDMUNDSSON DEFOUR CORK BRADY
Lennon hendrick westwood clucas

BARNES
rodriguez

WOOD
vokes

A squad with enough depth to have a crack at anyone.

Easy enough done right?

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:34 am

Wages...? dont see that in your fag packet calculations...?

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:35 am

Rick_Muller wrote:Wages...? dont see that in your fag packet calculations...?

Wages are irrelevant when you've woken up and thought you only live once right?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:36 am

I make it £67 million

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:37 am

Wages wages wages.

Were minted

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:37 am

randomclaret2 wrote:I make it £67 million

Not even checking my maths. Who's to a million when you're splashing the dry powder.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:38 am

I have just read this and thought "how.much did I drink last.night"

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:39 am

That would take at least 6 seasons of negotiations with our lot! Going up in 100k offers at a time

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:39 am

The last two clubs that Bardsley left got relegated the next season. I think I’d rather not chance it

Rodleydave · Post by **Rodleydave** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:40 am

But after a drink or two the best ideas often emerge.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:42 am

Is bardsley on 30k? Thats what i heard

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:43 am

OP....Put that bag of gurners down and get yerself a tenner bag of brown, whack it into the mainline and calm yer smalls son.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:44 am

colne-claret wrote:The last two clubs that Bardsley left got relegated the next season. I think I’d rather not chance it

They didn't

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:44 am

Rodleydave wrote:But after a drink or two the best ideas often emerge.

And the ridiculous ideas too

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:47 am

Rodleydave wrote:But after a drink or two the best ideas often emerge.

Exactly. Rumour has it Garlick was on it last night and has woken up with a reckless hangover

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:50 am

There's no way both Dawson and Mawson would join us, knowing that either one of them will spend the entire season on the bench.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:13 am

colne-claret wrote:The last two clubs that Bardsley left got relegated the next season. I think I’d rather not chance it

Clucas has been relegated every season he's played in the premier league.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:52 am

£58 million for Dawson, Mawson and JayRod excluding wages. Glad the OP is not running BFC.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:57 am

Blackrod wrote:£58 million for Dawson, Mawson and JayRod excluding wages. Glad the OP is not running BFC.

£60m plus, and not one gets a start!

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:05 am

We can't sign both Dawson and Mawson.

Imagine how confused the scoreboard operator would become never mind the guy with the microphone.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:14 am

If we signed Dawson, Mawson, Clucas, Rodriguez and Bryan our starting 11 would be...

Pope
Lowton Tark Mee Ward
JBG Defour Cork Brady
Barnes
Wood

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:27 am

tybfc wrote:We can't sign both Dawson and Mawson.

Imagine how confused the scoreboard operator would become never mind the guy with the microphone.

And that's even without our fans with no teeth.

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:31 am

KRBFC wrote:If we signed Dawson, Mawson, Clucas, Rodriguez and Bryan our starting 11 would be...

Pope
Lowton Tark Mee Ward
JBG Defour Cork Brady
Barnes
Wood

I agree but that got us to 7th and behind that we'd have a second 11 stronger than ever before and you'd guess that 3 or 4 would be in the starting 11 come the end of the season...

Heaton

Dawson Mawson Taylor Bryan
Lennon Hendrick Westwood Clucas
Rodriguez
Vokes

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:33 am

Blackrod wrote:£58 million for Dawson, Mawson and JayRod excluding wages. Glad the OP is not running BFC.

It's the way of the world unfortunately. Petrol is no longer 42p a litre either.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:36 am

OssyClaret wrote:It's the way of the world unfortunately. Petrol is no longer 42p a litre either.

I remember 99p/gallon... (and less of course!)

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:46 am

Rick_Muller wrote:I remember 99p/gallon... (and less of course!)

I can remember front pages when petrol went to 50p a gallon.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:48 am

I think that even THAT uninspiring, hypothetical transfer business won't even come anywhere near fruition.

Sucks being a Burnley fan dunnit... even expectations that low won't get met!

Ah well

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:54 am

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Rick_Muller wrote:I remember 99p/gallon... (and less of course!)

Wouldn't that make for an interesting comparison. Petrol prices versus record signings.

2017/18 - Wood - £15m vs £5.36 a gallon
2016/17 - Brady - £14m vs £4.72 a gallon
2015/16 - Gray - £11m vs £4.99 a gallon
2009/10 - Fletcher £4m vs £4.08 a gallon
2008/09 - Paterson £1.7m £4.72 a gallon
2001/02 - Blake £1.2m vs £3.68 a gallon
2000/01 - Moore £1m vs £3.89 a gallon
1998/98 - Davis £800k vs £3.23 a gallon
1991/92 - Davis £600k vs £2.28 a gallon
1983/84 - Waldron £90k vs £1.64 a gallon

All sources transfermarket website.

1983's record signing was worth 549 gallons, Chirs Wood is worth 27,985 gallons of petrol

Does that mean we should rein our transfer business in a bit...

Dougall · Post by **Dougall** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:10 pm

But petrol prices are unfairly influenced by OPEC - a global cartel.
A much better indicator of relative value would be something more stable - like Twix bars !!!

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:31 pm

OssyClaret wrote:I agree but that got us to 7th and behind that we'd have a second 11 stronger than ever before and you'd guess that 3 or 4 would be in the starting 11 come the end of the season...

Heaton

Dawson Mawson Taylor Bryan
Lennon Hendrick Westwood Clucas
Rodriguez
Vokes

Yeah we'd win the reserve league title but if we spent £70M on transfer fees i'd expect 3 automatic starters to slot into the starting 11.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:55 pm

In 1969 I worked on the pumps at Tillotson's on Manny Rd at the weekends once I was 16. Petrol was a whole 6/0d a gallon which is 30p. You would struggle to get from there to the Waggoners and back on 30p of unleaded now.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:44 pm

Mawson and probably Bryan I agree with - although the latter depends on our plans for Taylor.

The rest simply aren’t worth it for me - think of what you could genuinely do to the starting XI with £51 million. Think of what you could genuinely do to the recruitment team with just a small portion of that number....

Claret&Green · Post by **Claret&Green** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:21 pm

Wouldn't this make for an interesting comparison. Record transfer fee and what it would be now taking inflation into account

2017/18 - Wood - £15m = £15.6m today
2016/17 - Brady - £14m = £14.7m today
2015/16 - Gray - £11m = £11.77m today
2009/10 - Fletcher £4m = £5.08m today
2008/09 - Paterson £1.7m = £2.244m today
2001/02 - Blake £1.2m = £1.92m today
2000/01 - Moore £1m = £1.65m today
1998/98 - Davis £800k = £1.384 today
1991/92 - Davis £600k = £1.296 today
1983/84 - Waldron £90k = £302,400 today

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:42 pm

Claret&Green wrote:Wouldn't this make for an interesting comparison. Record transfer fee and what it would be now taking inflation into account

2017/18 - Wood - £15m = £15.6m today
2016/17 - Brady - £14m = £14.7m today
2015/16 - Gray - £11m = £11.77m today
2009/10 - Fletcher £4m = £5.08m today
2008/09 - Paterson £1.7m = £2.244m today
2001/02 - Blake £1.2m = £1.92m today
2000/01 - Moore £1m = £1.65m today
1998/98 - Davis £800k = £1.384 today
1991/92 - Davis £600k = £1.296 today
1983/84 - Waldron £90k = £302,400 today

Bonkers that isn't it? Just shows how finances in football are out of touch with the changes in the price of every day products.

It's not even a supply and demand issue is it. More a case of clubs know they each have more money now so lets just bump the prices up. Still, none of this matters now Garlick is making it rain.

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:45 pm

SGr wrote:Mawson and probably Bryan I agree with - although the latter depends on our plans for Taylor.

The rest simply aren’t worth it for me - think of what you could genuinely do to the starting XI with £51 million. Think of what you could genuinely do to the recruitment team with just a small portion of that number....

That's the question though isn't it? What can you do with £51m now, who would you sign?

I personally would like to see a summer of recruiting ready made players to give us a squad as strong as described and then invest in youth/infrastructure to keep the squad strong.

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:50 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah we'd win the reserve league title but if we spent £70M on transfer fees i'd expect 3 automatic starters to slot into the starting 11.

I think people outside of Burnley would think that that would be the case here. I'm sure there would be plenty of hypothetical arguments that:

Dawson > Lowton
Mawson > Mee
Bryan > Ward
Clucas > Gudmundsson
Rodriguez > Barnes

Certainly would be nice problems to have.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:00 pm

OssyClaret wrote:I think people outside of Burnley would think that that would be the case here. I'm sure there would be plenty of hypothetical arguments that:

Dawson > Lowton
Mawson > Mee
Bryan > Ward
Clucas > Gudmundsson
Rodriguez > Barnes

Certainly would be nice problems to have.

Dawson over Lowton? A central defender at fullback? ew no thanks

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:35 pm

OssyClaret wrote: Clucas > Gudmundsson

I am failing to see a single hypothetical argument for this. Not one.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:39 pm

OssyClaret wrote:That's the question though isn't it? What can you do with £51m now, who would you sign?

Well for a start I don’t think I’d pursue potential squad players from relegated Premier League clubs who don’t want, or need to sell them. You can do a lot with £51m, but not when you’re dealing with those sort of clubs.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:46 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah we'd win the reserve league title but if we spent £70M on transfer fees i'd expect 3 automatic starters to slot into the starting 11.

I agree with this. I'm all for strengthing the squad but I'd want a decent chunk of money spent on first team quality leaving the old first teamers to take the back-up positions.

On the whole we've done that in most windows under Dyche. Cork and Wood are two examples from last year. You could argue Brady and Defour before that. Even all the way back to the beginning we've signed a decent mix of first team quality and "squad" players. When Arfield came in he was more of the "squad player" type, but great things happened with him. On the whole I agree with your sentiments but I think Dyche deserves to be given till the end of the window before he's judged. So far it's been disappointing, and if we don't get any first teamers in then I'll be just as disappointed as you. In my opinion we've wasted a good opportunity so far, if we get beat by Aberdeen then we're out of Europe and one of our biggest bits of pulling power will have gone.

Even despite all that I'll remain hopeful until the last!

Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:31 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I remember 99p/gallon... (and less of course!)

I've just paid £5.25 for a pint of lager in a pub in Clapham. The barmaid didn't even look embarrassed when she told me.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:39 pm

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote:I've just paid £5.25 for a pint of lager in a pub in Clapham. The barmaid didn't even look embarrassed when she told me.

Similar prices craven heifer and stone trough near Barlick ....they don't bat an eyelid either.