HELP NEEDED FOR SITE FEATURE: 50 Things Every Claret Should Know!

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:33 pm

Hi everyone,

On the way to and from Aberdeen over the last couple of days, many things came up in conversation about the history of our club. I think it started when I asked who was the last Claret to score for Burnley in Europe. I’m 34, feel like I know quite a lot about my club, yet I had no idea that Brian Miller was the answer to this fact. 24 hours later, that was adjusted to Sam Vokes.

It got me thinking about a new feature for the site and I put the idea to Tony...he was in the car after all. He said that he thought it was a good idea, that he’d be delighted to form a facts page for reference on the UTC site, but requested that I set the ball rolling...so here I am.

They need to be key facts and stats that can all go on the same page, not interesting trivia such as hat-trick heroes (this is a long list, is available elsewhere on the site and in all truth, despite being interesting, it’s not what I’d consider a ‘crucial fact’).

I would think ideas such as the following would be on the right lines:

Date founded:
Location founded:
Club honours
Managerial honours
Cup honours (venue, score, captain, scorers)
European honours
First £1 million, £5 million, 10 ...£15 million pound player
Longest serving manager

And so the list goes on...

But what I’d like to ask is, what would you want to see on your list? What would you want to show someone who was keen to broaden their knowledge on our history-rich and proud football club?

I really think this could be a crucial reference point and would be used by Clarets if all ages.

Thanks and I look forward to receiving your ideas.

Thanks and UTC

John

Ps...if it goes beyond 50, we could have 75, 100 or perhaps to be fitting, 82 different facts!

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:44 pm

I would be interested to know who owned the club pre Bob Lord, and who founded the club.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:47 pm

top goalscorer every season would be interesting

Dawlishclaret · Post by **Dawlishclaret** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:49 pm

Great idea jdrobbo.
Something about our shirt colours; I think I read somewhere that we played in green in the early days. Youngest/oldest first team players.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:51 pm

Twix prices.
Twix alternatives.
Twix alternatives' prices.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:51 pm

Who scored our first hat trick.

Who saved our first penalty.

Who scored our first penalty.

Our first victory in Claret and Blue.

First player to return after being transferred.

First player we paid a fee for.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:53 pm

It should surely include reference to being founder members and that we are one of only a few clubs to win all four divisions.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:57 pm

How much did our first ever game cost to watch (if hard to find go for when we became the Clarets).

Who has the longest affiliation with the club, be it a sponsor, member of staff or board.

Who's our longest serving fan (season tickets consecutively).

Who were our first European opponents.

Who scored our first goal in European competition.

Who's scored the most goals for us.

claret59 · Post by **claret59** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:59 pm

What happened at the Club during the war years when football was suspended

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:00 pm

Twix prices through the years...

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:04 pm

How loyalty points work.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:08 pm

Who has been our most substituted player.
Ex Players who have worked for the club in other roles. Arthur Bellamy,Jack Butterfield etc

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:17 pm

We play the worlds oldest football league derby.
We're the first club to pay players to play.

BigF · Post by **BigF** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:17 pm

I think there is a paperback book that has lots of Claret's trivia in it. I'm sure there could be many of the 50 things in it should you need some sort of reference. (You might know most but I don't and I'm way older than you. Did know Brian Miller was the previous last scorer for us in Europe, was there behind the goal at the Cricket Field End). Could look up the book's title if you need it.

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:21 pm

The player with the highest win ratio? Excluding one hit wonders obviously

1968claret · Post by **1968claret** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:22 pm

Average attendances year on year
Ticket prices over the years

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:30 pm

the most significant or famous matches in our history

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:31 pm

That it's Hendrick, not Hendricks

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:34 pm

Weren't we the first top-flight English club to have its own training facility (Gawthorpe) when the rest trained on their pitches?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:41 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Weren't we the first top-flight English club to have its own training facility (Gawthorpe) when the rest trained on their pitches?

A list of "firsts" would be good. What we did or achieved before anyone else.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:55 pm

Some really great points made, thanks! I do think though, that some of you have missed the point a little. Some of the suggestions I don’t feel are crucial stats.

If you had to tell someone the fifty most significant things about our club, what would they be?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:09 pm

jdrobbo wrote:Some really great points made, thanks! I do think though, that some of you have missed the point a little. Some of the suggestions I don’t feel are crucial stats.

If you had to tell someone the fifty most significant things about our club, what would they be?

Not to slag off our transfer dealings.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:16 pm

jdrobbo wrote:Some really great points made, thanks! I do think though, that some of you have missed the point a little. Some of the suggestions I don’t feel are crucial stats.

If you had to tell someone the fifty most significant things about our club, what would they be?

The reason we changed to Claret and Blue kit?

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:19 pm

Will Brexit be a good thing or a bad thing for the club?

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:23 pm

The actual names of the people who stopped watching Burnley because we sold Jimmy McIlroy?

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:32 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:The actual names of the people who stopped watching Burnley because we sold Jimmy McIlroy?

My Dad was tempted but by the time the next home game came around we had changed our mind!

"Burnley FC Miscellany......Everything you ever needed to know about the Clarets"......By David Clayton.

First published in 2014.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:26 pm

I can't even count to 50 never mind think of that many questions.

Why did we switch home and away dugouts around?

Why did we move the tunnel to the corner?

Why have we started selling away tickets online at 5pm on the night of 3pm home kick off times?

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:31 pm

The league table and situation that faced us at 2:55 pm on Sarturday, May 9th 1987.
The results that saved us

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:35 pm

Obviously, the dates and results of our FA Cup finals, the years and points totals of our championship wins and the details of the famous unbeaten run in 1921.

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:36 pm

All our international players who played for their country whilst a Burnley player

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:36 pm

Biggest gates

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:41 pm

How Kieran Trippier managed to head clear that goal bound effort at Blackpool in 2014

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:45 pm

tybfc wrote:
Why did we switch home and away dugouts around?
We were sick of the away manager putting pressure on the linesman who always operates that side.
Why did we move the tunnel to the corner?
The original tunnel wasn't wide enough for cameras by premier league standards.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:51 pm

I thought this was a good idea when John mentioned it and thought it would be good asking on a thread. But what a waste of time given some of the responses on here.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:01 am

I know this will be in the recent past but not recent. Someone must know....

First referee to award us a penalty?
Did we score?

Can he still ref?

Annual turnover first year.
Who did we play in our first ever match?

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:32 am

First substitute used and who he replaced (although I already know the answer!)

ants_g · Post by **ants_g** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:42 am

Shortest serving permenant manager

ants_g · Post by **ants_g** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:48 am

strange one but: biggest distance between our worst and best league positions and when.

I'm guessing it's 85 (ish) places or would you just say last in old division 4 and 7th in Prem?

ants_g · Post by **ants_g** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:56 am

More everyday stuff one might need to know because they're visiting first time?
Prices
ground proximity to trains etc
distance to major cities like Manchester

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:56 am

ants_g wrote:strange one but: biggest distance between our worst and best league positions and when.

I'm guessing it's 85 (ish) places or would you just say last in old division 4 and 7th in Prem?

If you are counting the 4th division then you have to include the “old” first and we’ve won that so it’s 92 places

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:00 am

The transfer targets that very nearly materialised would be excellent.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:06 am

Longest run undefeated/without a win and under which manager (or for each manager)

ants_g · Post by **ants_g** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:08 am

wilks_bfc wrote:If you are counting the 4th division then you have to include the “old” first and we’ve won that so it’s 92 places

Ah yes good point!

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:55 am

If Ian Moore is on any fact page then leave that category out.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:26 am

I think some of you need to read the OP to understand what this is about.