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Burnley v Turks

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:54 pm

What are the next round games dates please

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by scouseclaret » Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:57 pm

9th away, 16th at home as far as I know.

BUT WE’RE NOT THERE YET!!!
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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by Shappie » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:43 pm

IF we do get through, what are the chances of the games being the other way round? I ready somewhere that’s there is a chance the fixtures may be switched

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:49 pm

Shappie wrote:IF we do get through, what are the chances of the games being the other way round? I ready somewhere that’s there is a chance the fixtures may be switched
Need to find this out also as will be booking flight at full time thursday IF (BIG IF STILL) We win.
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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:04 pm

Besiktas have also been drawn to play the first leg of the next round at home. Can't see it being an issue personally but who knows?

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by scouseclaret » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:16 pm

From what I’ve read the club we’ve drawn don’t have any fans, so I doubt it will be a problem.

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by claretblue » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:05 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Need to find this out also as will be booking flight at full time thursday IF (BIG IF STILL) We win.
...or draw 0 - 0

:D

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by South West Claret. » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:14 pm

scouseclaret wrote:From what I’ve read the club we’ve drawn don’t have any fans, so I doubt it will be a problem.

Do you know their average gate?

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:20 pm

Besiktas, Galatasaray and İstanbul Başak are all playing at home on the 25th August in the Turkish league so they can probably cope with just two sides.

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Post by scouseclaret » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:08 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Do you know their average gate?
6000 last season according to this - which is apparently double what it was the year before. Difficult for a relatively new club in a city that’s already pretty well served...


https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... all-turkey" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:29 pm

claretblue wrote:...or draw 0 - 0

:D
Thats a win 8-)

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by South West Claret. » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:41 pm

scouseclaret wrote:6000 last season according to this - which is apparently double what it was the year before. Difficult for a relatively new club in a city that’s already pretty well served...


https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... all-turkey" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks for the link SC an interesting read.

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by Paul Waine » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:01 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Besiktas, Galatasaray and İstanbul Başak are all playing at home on the 25th August in the Turkish league so they can probably cope with just two sides.
Istanbul population 15 million. London around 10 million. Manchester 0.5 million, Greater Manchester 2.5 million.

They say travel broadens the mind. I didn't know Istanbul was 50% larger than London.

I don't think we need to be concerned about the game being switched because there is another game on in Istanbul on the same night.

Interesting read from the Guardian. Some things about the club not that disimilar to the Clarets - but a short history and competing at the level they do means it will be a big achievement to get through this round - without getting ahead of Thursday night, Aug 2nd.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:38 pm

Oh it's a big city alright.

I was hoping someone would of worked out the best area to book an hotel by now.

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Post by ClaretJimmy » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:46 pm

One thing I did notice when looking at logistics is it's around 90km in a taxi/car from Istanbul Sabiha airport to the stadium, and it takes around one hour. Which won't be a cheap do I imagine.

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:32 pm

Their average gate was 3200 last season ( home ) but that takes into account the fener/gala/bestikas crowds. After comp ueafa tickets they had about 700 home fans for Hoffenheim Europa game . Joke fans but a very decent team and infrastructure indeed

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by IanMcL » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:39 pm

If he scores the winner, would the headline be 'Turkowski'?

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by Claret&Green » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:08 pm

UEFA rules state only one game may be played in any city on same day, in the event of two teams in same city being due to play on the same night one will be moved back by 24 or 48 hrs,( UEFA Europa lge rule 21.03)
as happened to Rangers this when they played Shkupi in 1st qualifying end. I highly suspect Besiktas would stay on Thursday, so we are likely to be moved to Wednesday or Thursday.

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Re: Burnley v Başakşehir

Post by thatdberight » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:11 pm

Claret&Green wrote:...Besiktas would stay on Thursday, so we are likely to be moved to Wednesday or Thursday.
See if you can bamboozle UEFA into accepting that, "It was Thursday but we moved it to Thursday" . Easy.

By the way 21.03 only applies if the Turkish FA have invoked that in advance. I'm not aware of the Turkish FA's stance but I'd hope (could be mistaken) that they'd have already announced that swap if so since it would apply regardless of whether it's us or Aberdeen.

In 2016, Başakşehir and Fenerbahçe played on the same night in the Europa League qualifying rounds.
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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by Claret&Green » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:17 pm

thatdberight wrote:See if you can bamboozle UEFA into accepting that, "It was Thursday but we moved it to Thursday" . Easy.
Auto spell error that should have read we will probably be moved to Wednesday or Tuesday.

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by Culvert_for_one » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:44 pm

Some clear conflicting opinions here, someone has highlighted the UEFA rule of two games cannot be played in the same city on the same night however when challenged by the 2016 fenerbache game has given no insight.

Would be great for the club to comment on this sooner rather than later.

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Re: Burnley v Başakşehir

Post by thatdberight » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:39 pm

Culvert_for_one wrote:Some clear conflicting opinions here, someone has highlighted the UEFA rule of two games cannot be played in the same city on the same night however when challenged by the 2016 fenerbache game has given no insight.

Would be great for the club to comment on this sooner rather than later.

Skyscanner prices wait for no man :x
Someone quoted half the rule.

"21.03 If more than one club from the same city, or within a radius of 50km (31 miles) of each other, is taking part in any of the UEFA club competitions and/or plays in the same stadium, and if the association and the clubs concerned explicitly declare when entering the clubs that their matches cannot be played on the same day or on consecutive days, the UEFA administration may alter or confirm dates and kick-
off times..."

It's hard to see why they wouldn't have announced the change by now.

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by scouseclaret » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:06 pm

It’s a bit like saying Arsenal and Leyton Orient can’t play early round League Cup games on the same night. Just not an issue.

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by houseboy » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:21 am

scouseclaret wrote:From what I’ve read the club we’ve drawn don’t have any fans, so I doubt it will be a problem.
If you do wind up going you might be impressed. I've looked up their ground and was pleasantly surprised for a team I'd never heard of. Only small (17.5k) but fairly brand new and state of the art by the looks of it. The club itself is only quite new, historically speaking. Hope the fans are better than the norm over there though, shocking reputation in general as we all well know.

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Re: Burnley v Turks

Post by Bfc » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:30 am

I saw they played a friendly last at VFB Stuttgart and got beat 3-1, with their goal coming in the 88th minute. I wonder if the club had a scout watch the game?. No details available of the teams players.

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