Ings to Palace

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
Post Reply
agreenwood
Posts: 3172
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:22 pm
Been Liked: 1749 times
Has Liked: 273 times

Ings to Palace

Post by agreenwood » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:33 am

Looks to be a done deal.

Fee could rise as high as £24m.

Claretmatt4
Posts: 3946
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:31 am
Been Liked: 1049 times
Has Liked: 723 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Claretmatt4 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:34 am

Unbelievable price given his injury history and lack of game time recently.

I'd be nowhere near him at that price. Liverpool must be p!ssing themselves.

Jel
Posts: 866
Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:54 pm
Been Liked: 266 times
Has Liked: 1178 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Jel » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:35 am

25 % profit to us ?

willsclarets
Posts: 1950
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:06 am
Been Liked: 688 times
Has Liked: 133 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by willsclarets » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:41 am

Wow. On the face of it £24 million is nuts, but it depends a lot on how much of that £24 million is up front and how much is dependent on appearances and goals. If he essentially has to prove his worth before it's realised in Liverpool's pocket then it might not be as crazy as it sounds.

I also expect Zaha to go for a massively inflated fee in this market, so perhaps a deal is done there that they've incorporated into their spend on Ings?

Fretters
Posts: 2580
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:56 am
Been Liked: 1051 times
Has Liked: 553 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Fretters » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:45 am

I imagine the fee is nowhere near £24 million unless he proves himself, in which case they'll be happy to pay it.

ClaretTony
Posts: 67881
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 32530 times
Has Liked: 5277 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:02 am

Jel wrote:25 % profit to us ?
Yep, its 20% on anything above £6.5 million.
These 4 users liked this post: tim_noone Quicknick whiffa mybloodisclaret

claretburns
Posts: 4916
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:27 pm
Been Liked: 858 times
Has Liked: 334 times
Location: Halifax

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by claretburns » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:04 am

ClaretTony wrote:Yep, 25% on anything above £6.5 million.
So presuming £24,000,000 is the correct fee and if the full amount is based depending on the possible goals/appearance add ons, should see £4,375,000 to Burnley.

Dyched
Posts: 5950
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:34 am
Been Liked: 1923 times
Has Liked: 446 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Dyched » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:06 am

Ive got to be worth at least £7m
This user liked this post: whiffa

Bordeauxclaret
Posts: 10327
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:36 pm
Been Liked: 3341 times
Has Liked: 1962 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:07 am

Suspect it’ll take us a long time, if ever, to get that amount.

BackoffDave
Posts: 29
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:18 am
Been Liked: 19 times
Has Liked: 137 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by BackoffDave » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:07 am

claretburns wrote:So presuming £24,000,000 is the correct fee and if the full amount is based depending on the possible goals/appearance add ons, should see £4,375,000 to Burnley.
So that'll disappear into your dry powder store never to be seen again? ;)

Dyched
Posts: 5950
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:34 am
Been Liked: 1923 times
Has Liked: 446 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Dyched » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:12 am

BackoffDave wrote:So that'll disappear into your dry powder store never to be seen again? ;)
The dry powder store was infiltrated a few days ago. Some suspect foul play (Yes you Mr Garlick). However Im not one to tell porkies or gossip. But what I will say is that this good fortune (The Ings money) will be the rebirth of “The Dry Powder Facility”
This user liked this post: BackoffDave

BackoffDave
Posts: 29
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:18 am
Been Liked: 19 times
Has Liked: 137 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by BackoffDave » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:13 am

Dyched wrote:The dry powder store was infiltrated a few days ago. Some suspect foul play (Yes you Mr Garlick). However Im not one to tell porkies or gossip. But what I will say is that this good fortune (The Ings money) will be the rebirth of “The Dry Powder Facility”
haha :D

tim_noone
Posts: 17108
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:12 pm
Been Liked: 4384 times
Has Liked: 15117 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by tim_noone » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:31 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Suspect it’ll take us a long time, if ever, to get that amount.
It took long enough to get the first amount of the tight scousers.

ClaretTony
Posts: 67881
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 32530 times
Has Liked: 5277 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:32 am

claretburns wrote:So presuming £24,000,000 is the correct fee and if the full amount is based depending on the possible goals/appearance add ons, should see £4,375,000 to Burnley.
We got £6.5m rising to £8m from the tribunal but we won't have got a penny of that extra £1.5 million. Therefore we'll get 25% of anything above that £6.5m figure.

TheFamilyCat
Posts: 10914
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:56 pm
Been Liked: 5560 times
Has Liked: 208 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:36 am

claretburns wrote:So presuming £24,000,000 is the correct fee and if the full amount is based depending on the possible goals/appearance add ons, should see £4,375,000 to Burnley.
Yes, if he plays 950 games, scores 500 goals and wins 75 England caps, we'll be billing Liverpool for over £4m. Kerching!

Steve1956
Posts: 17269
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:57 pm
Been Liked: 6490 times
Has Liked: 2918 times
Location: Fife

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:40 am

Good luck Danny ...all the best lad.

jrgbfc
Posts: 8508
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:30 pm
Been Liked: 2107 times
Has Liked: 337 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:49 am

It sounds a lot of money but how much will Wells and Walters end up costing us assuming we're stuck with them for the duration of their contracts?

jlup1980
Posts: 2177
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:01 pm
Been Liked: 858 times
Has Liked: 531 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by jlup1980 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:13 pm

Deals like this simply aren't sustainable. The bubble will burst eventually. Palace will end up paying Liverpool near £90m for Ings, Benteke and Sahko. Astonishing. I'd rather keep our powder dry!!

CombatClaret
Posts: 4388
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:09 pm
Been Liked: 1826 times
Has Liked: 930 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by CombatClaret » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:18 pm

If he can stay fit he can do a job. Zaha is still not their No9 and has been playing on the wing during preseason with Sørloth up front, pop Ings up there instead even just to pull defenders around to give Zaha space and score the odd tap in.

TVC15
Posts: 8211
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:09 pm
Been Liked: 3322 times
Has Liked: 601 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by TVC15 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:54 pm

jlup1980 wrote:Deals like this simply aren't sustainable. The bubble will burst eventually. Palace will end up paying Liverpool near £90m for Ings, Benteke and Sahko. Astonishing. I'd rather keep our powder dry!!
Wow !
Benteke - how many did he score last season ?
Sahko - how many games did he play last season ?
Ings - how many times has he played on last 3 years ?

Nearly £100m in transfer fees - and I doubt any of them are on less than £4m a year.

And we have fans who bang on every day about Wells and Walters ; or Juke and Sordell.
Total transfer value for all 4 - less than the total profit we will end up making on Danny Ings !!
This user liked this post: CombatClaret

Spike
Posts: 2705
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:07 pm
Been Liked: 598 times
Has Liked: 1238 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Spike » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:05 pm

isn't the fee that the Palace crackpots are rumoured to be able to pay "only" £20m with £4m add ons

A Palace fan I know says in the press etc down there they wanted him on a loan deal with a view to a permanent transfer.

jlup1980
Posts: 2177
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:01 pm
Been Liked: 858 times
Has Liked: 531 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by jlup1980 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:06 pm

TVC15 wrote:Wow !
Benteke - how many did he score last season ?
Sahko - how many games did he play last season ?
Ings - how many times has he played on last 3 years ?

Nearly £100m in transfer fees - and I doubt any of them are on less than £4m a year.

And we have fans who bang on every day about Wells and Walters ; or Juke and Sordell.
Total transfer value for all 4 - less than the total profit we will end up making on Danny Ings !!
Absolutely. I sound like a broken record saying we should be careful and prudent but deals like these blow my mind. Rumour has it Palace are also paying this Meyer kid £170k a week. I what world can we compete with that? We shouldn't even try. £8m looks a decent price for Clucas - certainly better value than many have paid this summer.

NRC
Posts: 4288
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:58 pm
Been Liked: 908 times
Has Liked: 107 times
Location: Containment Area for Relocated Yankees, NC

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by NRC » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:08 pm

TVC15 wrote:Wow !
Benteke - how many did he score last season ?
Sahko - how many games did he play last season ?
Ings - how many times has he played on last 3 years ?

Nearly £100m in transfer fees - and I doubt any of them are on less than £4m a year.

And we have fans who bang on every day about Wells and Walters ; or Juke and Sordell.
Total transfer value for all 4 - less than the total profit we will end up making on Danny Ings !!
to be fair if I was allowed to pick the team, those three would be starters. I'd have Ings off Benteke any day of the week in front of Wood/Barnes FFS

Spike
Posts: 2705
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:07 pm
Been Liked: 598 times
Has Liked: 1238 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Spike » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:11 pm

Benteke would never ever be good enough either physically or mentally for us to risk paying good money for him

COBBLE
Posts: 1382
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:04 am
Been Liked: 350 times
Has Liked: 472 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by COBBLE » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:24 pm

Things have just got stupid, especially in London. Can't wait till the bubble bursts.

Devils_Advocate
Posts: 12369
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:43 pm
Been Liked: 5209 times
Has Liked: 921 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:26 pm

I reckon this must be a panic buy after missing out on their main target Vinnie Steels!!!

whiffa
Posts: 1394
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:58 pm
Been Liked: 515 times
Has Liked: 2606 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by whiffa » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:36 pm

Dyched wrote:Ive got to be worth at least £7m
I very nearly spat my lunch out loud laughing at that! :lol:
This user liked this post: Darnhill Claret

TVC15
Posts: 8211
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:09 pm
Been Liked: 3322 times
Has Liked: 601 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by TVC15 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:51 pm

NRC wrote:to be fair if I was allowed to pick the team, those three would be starters. I'd have Ings off Benteke any day of the week in front of Wood/Barnes FFS
By my calculation if you were manager we would be about £35m worse off in transfer fees, £8m a year worse off in wages, and £25m worse off in Sky prize money as we will have been relegated last year with our 2 strikers managing total goals in the season of about 3 !!!

TVC15
Posts: 8211
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:09 pm
Been Liked: 3322 times
Has Liked: 601 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by TVC15 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:53 pm

Oh and I forgot about £30m spent on Sahko to spend most of the season out injured !

Dyched
Posts: 5950
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:34 am
Been Liked: 1923 times
Has Liked: 446 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Dyched » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:00 pm

whiffa wrote:I very nearly spat my lunch out loud laughing at that! :lol:
To cheap? Thanks mate

GodIsADeeJay81
Posts: 14571
Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:55 am
Been Liked: 3437 times
Has Liked: 6339 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:01 pm

NRC wrote:to be fair if I was allowed to pick the team, those three would be starters. I'd have Ings off Benteke any day of the week in front of Wood/Barnes FFS
Benteke has scored 18 league goals in 66 PL appearances for Palace.
Wood got 10 in 24 last season and he was injured for a decent chunk of it.

I can't imagine why you'd prefer Benteke over Wood.
This user liked this post: Cubanclaret

Hipper
Posts: 5721
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:33 pm
Been Liked: 1178 times
Has Liked: 921 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Hipper » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:03 pm

I saw Benteke quite a lot on TV for Palace last season. I noticed only one really good game and that was in their surprising comprehensive 3-0 win at Leicester. For the first twenty minutes he was his usual waste of space self but then he scored. After that he worked hard, both tackling back and being an attacking threat.

He can do it but that was the only time I've seen it.

tiger76
Posts: 25697
Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:43 pm
Been Liked: 4644 times
Has Liked: 9849 times
Location: Glasgow

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:47 pm

willsclarets wrote:Wow. On the face of it £24 million is nuts, but it depends a lot on how much of that £24 million is up front and how much is dependent on appearances and goals. If he essentially has to prove his worth before it's realised in Liverpool's pocket then it might not be as crazy as it sounds.

I also expect Zaha to go for a massively inflated fee in this market, so perhaps a deal is done there that they've incorporated into their spend on Ings?
Saw rumours about Zaha a couple of days ago,apparently he is available for a cost-price 45 million,in the current market that's looks low,but again he has had injury issues.

FCBurnley
Posts: 9850
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:56 pm
Been Liked: 2000 times
Has Liked: 1147 times

20% Add on for Ings

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:55 pm

IF Danny boy leaves Liverpool today.The LET is saying Burnley will receive 20% of any profit made by Liverpool. I assume its profit not fee.Every little helps

ClaretDiver
Posts: 2167
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:00 am
Been Liked: 553 times
Has Liked: 131 times

Re: 20% Add on for Ings

Post by ClaretDiver » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:57 pm

Do we have to pay 20% of anything below what we sold him for??

Steve1956
Posts: 17269
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:57 pm
Been Liked: 6490 times
Has Liked: 2918 times
Location: Fife

Re: 20% Add on for Ings

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:00 pm

It's looking like Liverpool & Ings are stook with each other..#thegrassisntalwaysgreener ;)

FactualFrank
Posts: 25445
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:46 am
Been Liked: 6930 times
Has Liked: 11660 times
Location: Leeds

Re: 20% Add on for Ings

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:03 pm

We've not done bad have we with some of the players we've sold. I'm sure the players will be happier now they're are on money, but the likes of Gray, Ings and Keane have not exactly done better since leaving.

martin_p
Posts: 10379
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:40 pm
Been Liked: 3767 times
Has Liked: 696 times

Re: 20% Add on for Ings

Post by martin_p » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:03 pm

Bit of a strange one. If Liverpool genuinely wanted to get rid why did they slap that hugely over inflated price tag on him?

karatekid
Posts: 3143
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:22 pm
Been Liked: 1108 times
Has Liked: 318 times

Re: 20% Add on for Ings

Post by karatekid » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:04 pm

You can't blame the lad for wanting to take his chance at a massive club like Liverpool. He has just been unlucky with injuries during his career and that is not his fault. He obviously just wants to play football , thats why he wants away from anfield. He could just sit around picking up a good wage but he wants to play.

Steve1956
Posts: 17269
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:57 pm
Been Liked: 6490 times
Has Liked: 2918 times
Location: Fife

Re: 20% Add on for Ings

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:08 pm

martin_p wrote:Bit of a strange one. If Liverpool genuinely wanted to get rid why did they slap that hugely over inflated price tag on him?
Because they are deluded,or maybe skint..I dunno.

CnBtruntru
Posts: 4151
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:39 pm
Been Liked: 698 times
Has Liked: 607 times
Location: Wexford, Ireland. via Nelson.

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by CnBtruntru » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:09 pm

He could always let his contract run down and leave for free ;)
This user liked this post: Rick_Muller

HOPE AND GLORY
Posts: 86
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:54 pm
Been Liked: 21 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by HOPE AND GLORY » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:12 pm

Joe Hart for free then :D

Stayingup
Posts: 5611
Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:02 pm
Been Liked: 921 times
Has Liked: 2756 times

Re: Ings to Palace

Post by Stayingup » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:12 pm

Jel wrote:25 % profit to us ?
20%

Post Reply