New bid for Jay Rod

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:22 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Fake bid. Done knowing it wont be accepted. Nothing to see here but Garlick trying to hoodwink the fans

I love a good conspiracy theory.

Are you still banging the "Yanks didn't land on the Moon" drum?!

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:32 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:I love a good conspiracy theory.

Are you still banging the "Yanks didn't land on the Moon" drum?!

Ha ha yeah.... maybe I dont understand how it all works but from what I have read today we have bid 16m, and wba will play ball at 18m. I know 2m is still abit of cash but i will guarantee wba will not drop below that so why dont we just pay it. We all know now the figure needed yet we are still haggling

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:40 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Ha ha yeah.... maybe I dont understand how it all works but from what I have read today we have bid 16m, and wba will play ball at 18m. I know 2m is still abit of cash but i will guarantee wba will not drop below that so why dont we just pay it. We all know now the figure needed yet we are still haggling

Just include Wells in the equation,he was 5 million WBA have inflated Jay's price by 6 million....so we are giving then £16 &Wells with inflation they are getting 27 million for Jay.....simples

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:53 pm

colne-claret wrote:I don’t personally think Rondon would be right for us anyway. He’s more of a target man which we essentially already have 3 of. Rodriguez links midfield to attack and that is perfect for what we need at the moment.

I didn't mean to imply that we should get him, just that he was a bargain at that price. Jay Rod would be a much better fit. I still think that they'd only sell one, and as Rondon is the one with the release clause. I'm surprised there hadn't been more interest in him, which is the slim hope we can cling to.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:00 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I didn't mean to imply that we should get him, just that he was a bargain at that price. Jay Rod would be a much better fit. I still think that they'd only sell one, and as Rondon is the one with the release clause. I'm surprised there hadn't been more interest in him, which is the slim hope we can cling to.

Rondons clause has expired so nobody will be getting him on the cheap https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... n-14981871" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:34 pm

Just stop trying to buy players cheaply from West Brom, we know they don't cave so just pay it - he's worth far more

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:34 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I didn't mean to imply that we should get him, just that he was a bargain at that price. Jay Rod would be a much better fit. I still think that they'd only sell one, and as Rondon is the one with the release clause. I'm surprised there hadn't been more interest in him, which is the slim hope we can cling to.

I'm surprised nobody took them up on the release clause.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:36 pm

Daily mail have it spot on
"The £8million tabled for Clucas was accepted by Swansea City but there is understood to be quite a way to go on that yet. Wages are forever an issue for the Clarets and that might be their downfall while trying to secure the 27-year-old as a back-up for Robbie Brady.

Middlesbrough rejected the opening £12m on offer for Gibson, as West Brom did with the £16m made for former striker Rodriguez.

There is no doubt that Burnley are playing games and even if three or four new faces do arrive, it is hard to get away from the fact this could all have been settled weeks ago. Standing still equates to going backwards in the Premier League. Bartering over loose broadcast change could yet be to their detriment."

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:39 pm

so was the Gibson bid rejected?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:30 am

ClaretAL wrote:so was the Gibson bid rejected?

Confusing, however, they may have refused £12m in favour of £8m, if anything us to be believed!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:02 am

if the 16 million has been rejected let's get up nice and early tomorrow and offer 18, stop ******* about, we are DESPERATE for an ounce of creativity

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:03 am

Nixon says big money needed all round for this deal.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:50 am

Rodriguez would be an excellent purchase at the right price (around the 20 million mark). He`s no spring chicken any more but he offers a little bit of subtlety up front which we don`t have allied to a player who can drop a little deeper and be comfortable/productive in possession. Honestly though the gut questions why the hell we bother with West Brom after our previous failed attempts where either the club or player has played us for suckers and we have complied.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:01 pm

....can only assume we must have received some encouragement from player / agent to move for Jay.

WBA don’t seem to have a lot of options in attack though, assuming Rondon’s off, so they’re bound not to let go easily.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:24 pm

I think we might land Clucas and Gibson but time to move on from this one and find another option. The one thing we are crying out for is an Ings/Rodriguez type of player as an option to Barnes and we could end up leaving it too late if this drags on.

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:29 pm

Cubanclaret wrote:....can only assume we must have received some encouragement from player / agent to move for Jay.

Personal terms are agreed and have been for some time

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:47 pm

Pearcey wrote:Nixon says big money needed all round for this deal.

As my father would say then, "we`re pissin` into the wind!"

Billy_Bumface · Post by **Billy_Bumface** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:40 pm

Saw a very expensive black car with a JR private plate pull away from the Turf today as I was going in the club shop around 1.30

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:41 pm

Billy_Bumface wrote:Saw a very expensive black car with a JR private plate pull away from the Turf today as I was going in the club shop around 1.30

The Ewings in town then...?

Westyorkclaret · Post by **Westyorkclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:45 pm

More likely to a car with TD in the reg

Billy_Bumface · Post by **Billy_Bumface** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:46 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:The Ewings in town then...?

Think he’d been arguing with Barnes

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:53 pm

Has he signed yet?

Hard to keep up with all the new players we are about to get through the door.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:08 pm

Jay Rod must sign. He is gifted. Our aerial power would be supreme.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:47 am

Westyorkclaret wrote:More likely to a car with TD in the reg

Signing Darikwa back????

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:57 am

Pearcey wrote:Nixon says big money needed all round for this deal.

Nixon knows the square root of jack ****

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:36 am

Vegas Claret wrote:Nixon knows the square root of jack ****

He knows more than anyone on this board and more than any of our local journos.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:28 am

Report suggest we have had a new £16 million bid rejected and told it will take £20 million (again).

http://www.soccernews.com/west-brom-rej ... ez/264205/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:45 am

If we really want him let's just pay the 20 mill. We desperately need to improve our attacking options, if we have to pay slightly over the odds occasionally so be it.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:47 am

In a market where Danny Ings is going for £24m and Richarlison for £50m, £20m for Rodriguez is sadly not a ridiculous ask.

I think we’ll get him, he’s clearly the number one target for a striker.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:48 am

Surely £19.95m plus Wells and Walters ought to do it ?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:50 am

randomclaret2 wrote:Surely £19.95m plus Wells and Walters ought to do it ?

That'd be too much.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:52 am

jrgbfc wrote:If we really want him let's just pay the 20 mill. We desperately need to improve our attacking options, if we have to pay slightly over the odds occasionally so be it.

It's not how BFC work.

We will increase it in £1 million increments and hope we get it over the line in time and that nobody else comes in for him.

I think £20 million is not unreasonable.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:54 am

I cant understand the delay here, IF its true that they are holding out for 20mill. With his experience and skills he is worth it, quite easily, and he would be such an asset to the team.
I can only presume we are holding out as we think we are the only bidders. A case of who blinks first, only we aren't in a position to lose out on this game. I do believe WBA are quite happy to keep him this season.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:54 am

If we REALLY want him, just write off the four mil or so we'll apparently get
from Liverpool for the sale of Ings. That'll make it £16 million.

Depends how much SD wants him.

And besides, if, as expected, we get the Gibson deal over the line for fifteen million,
we'll have saved some dosh there, cos that's a good deal.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:55 am

Steddyman wrote:It's not how BFC work.

We will increase it in £1 million increments and hope we get it over the line in time and that nobody else comes in for him.

I think £20 million is not unreasonable.

We shouldn't just jump in and pay asking prices without negotiation.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:04 am

Seem to be playing a dangerous game here.

Presumably, the deeper into the window we push this, the more danger there is of WBA deciding against dealing because they havent got time to reinvest.

If hes available at 20m and we know it, and we've done a deal on personal terms, then it would seem in our interests to hurry it along. That price doesnt seem outlandish in the current market.

Of course transfer fees are more complicated than the headline figures - its as much about the structure of the fee as the fee itself - but the comparison with Ings would seem a valid one at face value.

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:34 am

I actually think we are getting more savy in the market as years have gone on , I expect us to continue intrest in Jay and if we land him great but I have a feeling we are in for another striker and doing that low key to avoid attention , it was the same with Snodgrass, we didn't get him in the end but we already had Brady lined up , we can turn round to the other club that's asking too much and say well it doesn't matter we will get somebody else !

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:44 am

It's not just about incomings. We need time to move Walters and Wells on. They need it and we could get say 5 million. That would give us the shortfall on Jay and keep the squad happy.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:58 am

summitclaret wrote:It's not just about incomings. We need time to move Walters and Wells on. They need it and we could get say 5 million. That would give us the shortfall on Jay and keep the squad happy.

Don't think anyone else will be stupid enough to pay 5 million for Nahki Wells. I'd let Walters go on a free just to get him off the wage bill.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:02 pm

Rodriguez starts for WBA.

No Rondon in the squad.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:17 pm

summitclaret wrote:It's not just about incomings. We need time to move Walters and Wells on. They need it and we could get say 5 million. That would give us the shortfall on Jay and keep the squad happy.

Why would a team who got relegated with Jay and Rondon up front want to take someone like Wells ?

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:19 pm

TVC15 wrote:Why would a team who got relegated with Jay and Rondon up front want to take someone like Wells ?

Maybe, just maybe, because they are not playing Premier league this season....

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:22 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I cant understand the delay here, IF its true that they are holding out for 20mill. With his experience and skills he is worth it, quite easily, and he would be such an asset to the team.
I can only presume we are holding out as we think we are the only bidders. A case of who blinks first, only we aren't in a position to lose out on this game. I do believe WBA are quite happy to keep him this season.

Some on here are saying personal terms have already been agreed. If that is the case it might be he just wants to move back to the area and play for us. In that case it doesn’t matter how many others come in he won't sign for them. If we know this we can fiddle around with Baggies knowing he won’t go elsewhere. It is frustrating but I feel it will be done.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:25 pm

Think you're right, piston.

Reckon 18 / 18.5 million will do it.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:32 pm

TVC15 wrote:Why would a team who got relegated with Jay and Rondon up front want to take someone like Wells ?

I clearly did not say that. Just move them on not to wba.

BarrowfordClaret87 · Post by **BarrowfordClaret87** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:34 pm

Jay starts. Only four outfield players on the bench.

Reckon they’ll be keen to do a deal quickly to reinvest or no deal at all to keep him.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:36 pm

Thing is the longer it drags on the less time it gives WBA to replace him.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:37 pm

BarrowfordClaret87 wrote:Jay starts. Only four outfield players on the bench.

Reckon they’ll be keen to do a deal quickly to reinvest or no deal at all to keep him.

So you think he'll either be leaving, or staying then?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:38 pm

Massive rebuild at WBA. E season's ago, they were a well run club with sound finances. A reminder for Burnley.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:41 pm

Think ill watch West Brom v Bolton....Jay's last game for them?