New bid for Jay Rod

lesxdp · Post by **lesxdp** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:42 pm

W.B.A. should really put him on ebay with a "Buy him now" price and then we could just put in our maximum bid and would then see if anyone else was interested.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:43 pm

Ipswich v Venkys for me.

COME ON, YOU TRACTORS!!

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:44 pm

lesxdp wrote:W.B.A. should really put him on ebay with a "Buy him now" price and then we could just put in our maximum bid and would then see if anyone else was interested.

WBA would have negative feedback. Stay well clear imo

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:48 pm

Playing for WBA today so nothing can be imminent

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:49 pm

BarrowfordClaret87 wrote:Only four outfield players on the bench.

Reckon they’ll be keen to do a deal quickly to reinvest or no deal at all to keep him.

Really? They have selected 7 subs...so are you saying 3 of them 7 are keepers?

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:51 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:Really? They have selected 7 subs...so are you saying 3 of them 7 are keepers?

You can play 2 goalkeepers in the FL this season

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:52 pm

summitclaret wrote:I clearly did not say that. Just move them on not to wba.

Apologies - just reread your post. Thought you were saying use Wells as a make weight in the Jay deal.

I think we could struggle to get any money for Wells or Walters because of their wages. Personally i would still move them both on for nothing to free up some budget. Telling that we brought McNeill on the other night before either.

BarrowfordClaret87 · Post by **BarrowfordClaret87** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:52 pm

Macca - point being they won’t want it to drag on as if it does, they don’t have any time to replace him.

BarrowfordClaret87 · Post by **BarrowfordClaret87** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:54 pm

Jakubs - only five subs listed

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:55 pm

As someone else posted, a case of who blinks first.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:02 pm

TVC15 wrote:Apologies - just reread your post. Thought you were saying use Wells as a make weight in the Jay deal.

I think we could struggle to get any money for Wells or Walters because of their wages. Personally i would still move them both on for nothing to free up some budget. Telling that we brought McNeill on the other night before either.

If we can move both Walters or Wells on even as a free transfer,this would free squad places for incomings,and also hopefully give us more leeway for new signings wage demands,i can't see either having much of an impact next season even from the bench,so it makes sense for all parties if clubs could be found for them to play regular football,at Championship level both could be effective.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:08 pm

IanMcL wrote:Massive rebuild at WBA. E season's ago, they were a well run club with sound finances. A reminder for Burnley.

Partly due to the fact that they stocked their squad with expensive players on high wages in the upper age range.

They went all in to stay with little regard to the future and ended up dropping with few players on their books that could be sold to bring any real money back in.

If it wasn't for our solitary interest in Dawson and Jay Rod, along with Newcastle for Rondon, they would be looking to rebuild with their parachute payments and little more. Taking advantage of their fall to restructure and bring in some younger players with development potential is a good forward thinking move by them.

We aren't in the same position yet, because we have some attractive younger players in the form of Tarks, Pope and Taylor who would certainly attract a lot of interest if we experience a hiccup.

If we continue to stack our older deck with expensive signings to replace departing players we could find ourselves in the same position. A healthy mix is needed so I'm happy to see us targeting players like Mawson and Gibson.

It's also nice to see our domestic youth recruitement moving forward and some of our younger players being given the opportunity for a run out in the first team.

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:12 pm

Did we not just receive 20 million more than we thought we'd get for our finishing position last season, for Christ sake pay the money and move on.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:15 pm

tiger76 wrote:If we can move both Walters or Wells on even as a free transfer,this would free squad places for incomings,and also hopefully give us more leeway for new signings wage demands,i can't see either having much of an impact next season even from the bench,so it makes sense for all parties if clubs could be found for them to play regular football,at Championship level both could be effective.

We should never be letting contracted players leave for nothing especially Wells.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:25 pm

taio wrote:We should never be letting contracted players leave for nothing especially Wells.

So would you seriously not allow Walters to leave for nothing if a club was willing to take him and he was willing to go?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:27 pm

BarrowfordClaret87 wrote:Jakubs - only five subs listed

WBA have 7 subs today.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:29 pm

Big risk playing him if he gets injured today.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:32 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:So would you seriously not allow Walters to leave for nothing if a club was willing to take him and he was willing to go?

No.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:35 pm

BBC reporting Rondon (who isn't in the squad today) close to Newcastle move.

I'd be very surprised if they sell JayRod too unless we come in with silly money (unlikely) in time for them to make a move on Thursday.
I have a feeling they aren't up for it and we've gotten the message.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:39 pm

We can have him for twenty mil.

Depends how badly we want him.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:47 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:WBA have 7 subs today.

Not according to Sky they don’t

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:54 pm

They can sign some other team's striker, who need the money.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:57 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Not according to Sky they don’t

According to their own official Twitter account they have 7. Also 7 on BBC.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:02 pm

Fair enough. Was only going off what I’d seen

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:06 pm

Come home Jay,losing at home to Bolton is the start of a very long season for West Brom,rock the boat JR get yourself a transfer request in !

cblantfanclub · Post by **cblantfanclub** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:25 pm

I don't see any indication Jay is interested in returning to Burnley or staying in the Prem.
Not a whiff or slightest hint in the press througout the whole saga. It could be a one sided love affair.

nyclaret · Post by **nyclaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:28 pm

cblantfanclub wrote:I don't see any indication Jay is interested in returning to Burnley or staying in the Prem.
Not a whiff or slightest hint in the press througout the whole saga. It could be a one sided love affair.

He wants to come. He just doesn't want to hand a transfer request in at a club that stuck by him during the whole Bong saga.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:30 pm

cblantfanclub wrote:I don't see any indication Jay is interested in returning to Burnley or staying in the Prem.
Not a whiff or slightest hint in the press througout the whole saga. It could be a one sided love affair.

Apparently wants to join us but doesn't want to force the issue publically because of how West Brom supported him over the Bong incident.

Too slow - beat me to it.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:34 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:So would you seriously not allow Walters to leave for nothing if a club was willing to take him and he was willing to go?

But Walters was told early this Summer he could look for another club. You won’t get killed in the stampede to sign him.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:45 pm

piston broke wrote:But Walters was told early this Summer he could look for another club. You won’t get killed in the stampede to sign him.

I dont get your point?

Taio said we should NEVER let any player under contract leave for nothing. I was surprised at this viewpoint and clarified it by asking if that would even apply to Walters as I can not believe anyone wouldnt see the value of getting him off our wage bill.

Taio clarified his opinion and confirmed he wouldnt even let Walters go for free which is true to his original statement so whilst I am shocked he thinks that way thats up to him so there was nothing for me to discuss with him on the matter

Now you quote me and make a point which I dont get why it was directed at me so please explain if im missing something obvious please

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:48 pm

Don't have a strong view on Walters if I'm honest. But there's no way we should let Wells go for nothing which is why I specifically referred to him and at not Walters.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:51 pm

I know but you said we should never let any contracted player and then confirmed to me that applied to Walters when i asked. I strongly disagree but have no problem with you having a different opinion thats what this board is all about. I was just a bit confused about Piston quoting me with his comment

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:58 pm

Yeah on reflection my choice of words were poor - there are circumstances when it would be appropriate to let a player leave for nothing if a fee isn't going to materialise and the player has no realistic future at the club. My main emphasis - in my head at least - was on Wells for obvious reasons.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:02 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:I dont get your point?

Taio said we should NEVER let any player under contract leave for nothing. I was surprised at this viewpoint and clarified it by asking if that would even apply to Walters as I can not believe anyone wouldnt see the value of getting him off our wage bill.

Taio clarified his opinion and confirmed he wouldnt even let Walters go for free which is true to his original statement so whilst I am shocked he thinks that way thats up to him so there was nothing for me to discuss with him on the matter

Now you quote me and make a point which I dont get why it was directed at me so please explain if im missing something obvious please

Fair point. I hadn’t read yours as a reply.

PrecisionClaret · Post by **PrecisionClaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:19 pm

taio wrote:Yeah on reflection my choice of words were poor - there are circumstances when it would be appropriate to let a player leave for nothing if a fee isn't going to materialise and the player has no realistic future at the club. My main emphasis - in my head at least - was on Wells for obvious reasons.

Do you really see a future for Wells at this club? Letting him leave for free would remove a pointless waste of a wage. The same an be said for Walters.

k90bfc · Post by **k90bfc** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:55 pm

The Burnley fans,supported Jay,when we played Brighton,He knows full well,We want him back!

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:57 pm

PrecisionClaret wrote:Do you really see a future for Wells at this club? Letting him leave for free would remove a pointless waste of a wage. The same an be said for Walters.

I would guess we would let Walters go for free baring in mind his age
If Wells was to go I would think we would want a fee

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:12 am

Boden has just said we face missing out on Jay Rod. 3 Premier League clubs now in for him.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:14 am

Pearcey wrote:Boden has just said we face missing out on Jay Rod. 3 Premier League clubs now in for him.

But Jay signs the contract.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:18 am

mkmel wrote:I would guess we would let Walters go for free baring in mind his age
If Wells was to go I would think we would want a fee

If Wells was on the market tomorrow its hard to see how we could get over a million for him...and probably harder to see anyone matching what we must be paying him...despite the usual defensive comments on here, that was definitely a case of good money spunked.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:27 am

Pearcey wrote:Boden has just said we face missing out on Jay Rod. 3 Premier League clubs now in for him.

That's Boden doing what he's told to do by the club, so the fans can get ready for disappointment. If he wanted to come, If we really wanted him and If wba wanted to sell, he'd come here..... Somebody else offers him more money we will see how much he really wants to come home

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:32 am

If Jay really wanted to move back here would he not have put in a transfer request?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:35 am

Its been said he wont put in a transfer request out of respect for WBA for their support during the Bong allegations situation

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:38 am

Use what we have saved on gibson to get jay and quickly.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:40 am

summitclaret wrote:Use what we have saved on gibson to get jay and quickly.

That doesn’t make sense. What have we saved on Gibson?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:40 am

Boden generally just passes on what he's been told or what another journalist has written

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:42 am

We would have had to pay more for dawson.

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:44 am

We need to stop messing about and pay more than the going rate. We need signings not just to satisfy UTC posters but also if we are going to finish in the top 6. Garlick needs to get his cheque book out before its all too late.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:51 am

NL Claret wrote:We need to stop messing about and pay more than the going rate. We need signings not just to satisfy UTC posters but also if we are going to finish in the top 6. Garlick needs to get his cheque book out before its all too late.

OMG delusions of grandeur. We are a small fish in an enormous pond and will remain so until someone with more money than we ever dreamed of takes over the club but lets hope said person has more sense than money as our present Board seem to have. Such a person is unlikely to spend that money here due to our ground size and fan base. I have little doubt that the "cheque book" has been out and open since the window opened but for any potential signing it is more than likely we will not get them if another Premier league club want them due to the difference in £££££££££££ these clubs have over us.

1968claret · Post by **1968claret** » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:54 am

NL Claret wrote: but also if we are going to finish in the top 6. Garlick needs to get his cheque book out before its all too late.

Good to see expectations being well and truly managed there NL