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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:45 am

Ed Aaron’s (deputy sports editor at the Guardian) just tweeted that we are hoping to complete a deal for Jay today after a new bid last night.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Steve1956 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:51 am

Come on Dyche one final push and get this over the line,I'm really looking forward to this season,probably the best time in my lifetime being a Claret.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Raz » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:53 am

Dyche is certainly earning his money...

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New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Ealing_Claret » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:08 am

Burnley hoping to complete move for Jay Rodriguez today. New bid submitted to West Brom last night and player is keen to re-join club he left in 2012.

Source: Ed Aarons

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Bigvince » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:10 am

Who’s Ed Aaron’s?

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Ealing_Claret » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:12 am

Deputy Editor of Sports News at The Guardian.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by burnley007 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:12 am

Great.
Not sure where it all fits together though.
Still think we need another wide man...

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Bigvince » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:13 am

Ealing_Claret wrote:Deputy Editor of Sports News at The Guardian.
Good source cheers

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Pearcey » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:14 am

Did we need a new........new thread though?

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Pearcey » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:15 am

These are great times to be a Claret. Hope we can do this.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Blackrod » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:15 am

I really hope we don't pay £20 million because he really isn't worth that even in this market.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Claretmatt4 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:15 am

burnley007 wrote:Great.
Not sure where it all fits together though.
Still think we need another wide man...
Jay can play out wide and in the number ten role, so i Can see how it could work.

Price has to be right though.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:15 am

burnley007 wrote:Great.
Not sure where it all fits together though.
Still think we need another wide man...
Nixon tweeted still trying for Bolasie but wages a problem but we have another winger targeted.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Ealing_Claret » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:16 am

Saves you scrolling through tonnes of other stuff, like snorkelling through a cesspool to find a pearl. Thank me later.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by northeastclaret » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:16 am

If this comes off you can only assume it means Vokes to Boro. I hope not, would love to see Jay as well, but surprised we would run with 5 strikers, assuming Wells and Walters go as well.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by CombatClaret » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:20 am

RVclaret wrote:Ed Aaron’s (deputy sports editor at the Guardian) just tweeted that we are hoping to complete a deal for Jay today after a new bid last night.
Given the businesses we've conducted the last couple day and that the Gaffer is in Turkey tomorrow; Today seems like our deadline day and this might be the last one we're looking to see over the line.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:22 am

Being in Turkey isn't a problem, we're leaving a work experience lad to sign the contracts and send the paperwork to the FA.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by willsclarets » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:24 am

I certainly wouldn't be disappointed to see Jay back in a Burnley shirt, but with Barnes, Wood, Vydra and Vokes I think we might have enough up top. If we were to sign one more player, a wide midfielder or even a central midfielder would be top of the list for me in terms of squeezing the most out of our budget. As I say though, would certainly not be disappointed either!

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by BOYSIE31 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:26 am

Rather get Bolasie

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by beddie » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:27 am

Interesting comments about not being worth £20m. Who then could you buy at that figure. Also when you look at the amounts clubs are spending on individual players perhaps £20m is the going rate. Dyche made reference to the crazy figures recently.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:28 am

Blackrod wrote:I really hope we don't pay £20 million because he really isn't worth that even in this market.
We paid £15-18 million for someone who'd barely been in the PL but was championship top scorer.

£20 million for someone with a decent scoring record when fit isn't a bad price.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:30 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:We paid £15-18 million for someone who'd barely been in the PL but was championship top scorer.

£20 million for someone with a decent scoring record when fit isn't a bad price.
The thing is Jay-Rod will have little or no sell on value due to his age, but Chris Wood will.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:30 am

northeastclaret wrote:If this comes off you can only assume it means Vokes to Boro. I hope not, would love to see Jay as well, but surprised we would run with 5 strikers, assuming Wells and Walters go as well.
Wells has gone to Derby hasn't he??

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:31 am

Spijed wrote:The thing is Jay-Rod will have little or no sell on value due to his age, but Chris Wood will.
His resale value isn't what's important though, it's his goals and creativity we want.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:34 am

CombatClaret wrote:Given the businesses we've conducted the last couple day and that the Gaffer is in Turkey tomorrow; Today seems like our deadline day and this might be the last one we're looking to see over the line.
Given the businesses we've conducted the last couple day and that the Gaffer is in Turkey tomorrow; Today seems like our deadline day and this might be the last one we're looking to see over the line.

I would think, generally, Dyche's work would have been done and any further deals, if there are to be any. He's already left for Turkey in any case. He'll be contactable if needed.
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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:36 am

Blackrod wrote:I really hope we don't pay £20 million because he really isn't worth that even in this market.
Maybe not but when you look at Bamford being 10m and Diouf being valued at 15m I think it is about right.

The problem as I see it is that nowadays clubs want instant success. So what happens is that clubs get players like Ba, Cisse, Ighalo, Gray and the like who all do it but after 1 good season they want to leave. Now this then creates a problem for their club as they have to replace players each year.

We do not have that problem majorly. Yes we lost Keane and Gray but I think for the money we got they were good deals for the club. By paying a premium on Jay Rod which we will be if we sign him. We know he will be here for the duration of his contract. Thats 1 less player to replace each year and saves time for the board and manager in sourcing new players.

Yes we could sign a player from the french league but if he has a good season we know he will then want to up sticks and move for a bigger contract elsewhere. Upsetting the dressing room as well as causing unneeded disruption. Not that I am against signing players from this league I just understand the caution we use.
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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by aggi » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:31 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:His resale value isn't what's important though, it's his goals and creativity we want.
If we're signing someone for goals then Rodriguez doesn't look to be the one.

Looking at minutes per goal last season:

Wood 163
Barnes 240
Vokes 245
Rodriguez 403

You could argue that he was in a struggling West Brom team last season, they scored 5 fewer than us in total.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by theroyaldyche » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:34 pm

I hear he's asked to leave the Baggies, but not officially. Can see a transfer request going in before tomorrow

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by FactualFrank » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:39 pm

Surely SD doesn't have to be physically there for deals to be wrapped up, if the work has already been done beforehand. You'd expect it to be a case of dotting the i's and crossing the t's.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:47 pm

SIMON JONES: Burnley have made a fresh approach for West Bromwich Albion forward Jay Rodriguez and could include striker Sam Vokes in the deal.

Albion have so far rebuffed three offers from Burnley believed to be up to £16m. However, Sean Dyche, having signed Matej Vydra from Derby on Tuesday, has instigated new talks with Albion open to a deal that includes cash plus Vokes.

The 28-year-old Wales international is also wanted by Middlesbrough but Darren Moore hopes to convince him of a move to the Hawthorns where he would replace Salomon Rondon and link up with Dwight Gayle.

Middlesbrough are also talking to West Ham regarding a loan for Jordan Hugill.
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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:49 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Surely SD doesn't have to be physically there for deals to be wrapped up, if the work has already been done beforehand. You'd expect it to be a case of dotting the i's and crossing the t's.
mrs dyche can cook the omelettes.
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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:49 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Surely SD doesn't have to be physically there for deals to be wrapped up, if the work has already been done beforehand. You'd expect it to be a case of dotting the i's and crossing the t's.
Garlick won't pay for Dyche's data roaming.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:51 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Daily mail are reporting that sam vokes could be included in a deal for jay rod
Would surely only be possible if he’s not flown out to Turkey or a loan deal when the window reopens?

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by pushpinpussy » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:52 pm

please. would be good all round.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Dyched » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:52 pm

Sam Vokes and Dwight Gayle would be great for team in the Championship

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by burnleymik » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:53 pm

So 8m + Vokes? Does that sound about right?

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by martin_p » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:53 pm

It’s not going to be that easy for Vokes to sign for anyone before 5pm on Thursday. I assume he’s in Istanbul already, or on the way there, and will be fully involved in preparations for Thursday.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:55 pm

martin_p wrote:It’s not going to be that easy for Vokes to sign for anyone before 5pm on Thursday. I assume he’s in Istanbul already, or on the way there, and will be fully involved in preparations for Thursday.
Loan window doesnt shut for another few weeks . Could go on loan and then on a free

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by martin_p » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:58 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Loan window doesnt shut for another few weeks . Could go on loan and then on a free
Good point. Forgot about the loan window. Runs to the end of August for clubs outside the PL I think.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:00 pm

martin_p wrote:It’s not going to be that easy for Vokes to sign for anyone before 5pm on Thursday. I assume he’s in Istanbul already, or on the way there, and will be fully involved in preparations for Thursday.
I'm sure SD will have sat down with Vokes and talked to him about the move. If he's up for it he can easily get a flight back to the UK today, surely?

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by martin_p » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:02 pm

Spijed wrote:I'm sure SD will have sat down with Vokes and talked to him about the move. If he's up for it he can easily get a flight back to the UK today, surely?
I’d prefer to have him in the squad for Thursday night. Is Wood fit? Leaves us a bit light up front if not.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:07 pm

Maybe the manager is thinking if we can include vokes in any deal for jay rod we will save money and the extra money thats available can contribute to getting in a winger . Thats if this turns out to be true

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by claretdj » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:10 pm

Spijed wrote:I'm sure SD will have sat down with Vokes and talked to him about the move. If he's up for it he can easily get a flight back to the UK today, surely?
Vokes is going nowhere! Why would we sell our best striker? N to swap for Jay rod would be absolutely crazy me thinks..
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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by lucs86 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:12 pm

If we're losing Vokes I'd rather bring in Crouch than Jay. We need a big forward for the last 15 mins.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by taio » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:12 pm

Personally I wouldn't entertain the idea of moving Vokes on.

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Claretmatt4 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:13 pm

burnleymik wrote:So 8m + Vokes? Does that sound about right?
No. It sounds sh!t. What's with the urge to sell Vokes?

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:14 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:No. It sounds sh!t. What's with the urge to sell Vokes?
It’s more likely to be Vokes wanting to play more often than us wanting him to leave

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Foulthrow » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:15 pm

RVclaret wrote:Ed Aaron’s (deputy sports editor at the Guardian) just tweeted that we are hoping to complete a deal for Jay today after a new bid last night.
I remain sceptical that anyone at the Gruaniad can spell Rodriguez.

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Re: New... new bid for Rodriguez

Post by piston broke » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:15 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Wells has gone to Derby hasn't he??
Not yet and with them signing Waghorn it might not happen

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Re: New bid for Jay Rod

Post by Spike » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:18 pm

wells to WBA would solve everything unless we've sold his soul to Derby

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