New bid for Jay Rod

[clarethomer]

SSN are reporting our interest has cooled because of the price WBA want.

[LawsCanalJump]

Time to not waste anymore valuable time and move to other targets.. We shouldn't do dealing with WBA again

[Claretmatt4]

They're perfectly entitled to ask for loads for him, and we're perfectly entitled to back out.

[IanMcL]

Greed by the club, trying to retain a player wishing to return to where it all began. They am would make loads, what's their issue?

[Longsider]

We shouldn't do dealing with WBA again

Agree. They have tried to rinse us on the cash this transfer window and have treated us like small town amateurs in the past. They need to know thier place. They are now small time compared to us. A bit like dirty Weeds.

[martin_p]

They don’t need to sell, so it was always going to be difficult. The only way this transfer will happen is if Rodriguez starts being awkward.

[elwaclaret]

If we haven't learned that WBA are time wasters this time we never will. I hope leave it at least a good few years before we entertain any contact THAT club again regarding players either in or out.

[Vegas Claret]

As good a player Jay is we can do much better for 20 million imho

[Claretmatt4]

Not sure West Brom have done owt wrong
They've stuck by their asking price and we've stuck by our valuation.

[Reecey1987]

As good a player Jay is we can do much better for 20 million imho

This is likely to be our last throw of the dice this transfer window . I think.that will be it for us now

[Quickenthetempo]

I couldn't cope losing Arfield, Marney and Vokes in the same summer.

[Silkyskills1]

They want £20 million; we haven't offered that much so they won't sell. Which,if either,of the two clubs loses out due to apparent intransigence remains to be seen.

[Long Time Lurker]

Just seen someone post on twitter, that according to SSN , an 18mill bid has just been rejected for JayRod.

If that is true we just had a very lucky escape.

£16m was bending over backwards, £18m is lying prone over a barrel, with a red carpet leading up, a mariachi band playing and a mountainous pile of Twix for the apres rogering WBA party.

If it isn't and we are still interested we should take a leaf out of Watford's play book and offer WBA a cash only deal of £12m for Jay Rod. The worst that could happen at this late stage in the window is that they say no, which would be no different to what they have done throughout the window.

The one good thing about our dealings with WBA in this window is that our refusal to pay over the odds has sent a clear message to all the other clubs about the way we go about our transfer deals.

If clubs are difficult and they try to hold us to ransom they get nowhere and a deal is not done.

In contrast, if they treat our interest in reasonable manner a deal that is fair for all parties gets done very quickly.

Backtracking and paying over the odds for Jay Rod would undo all that and send the wrong message out.

[yorkshireclaret]

Just pay the asking price! Another £2m is peanuts in today's market especially if his wages have been agreed!

[Claretmatt4]

Just pay the asking price! Another £2m is peanuts in today's market especially if his wages have been agreed!

What is the asking price?

We haven't agreed wages?

[yorkshireclaret]

By all accounts it is £20m

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Less than 24 hours to go and it’s gone very quiet.

Suspect we’re done now, but the Dyche presser tonight should confirm if we have anything pending.

[jrgbfc]

Thing is if West Brom sold Jay now they'd only be left with two strikers. If we'd have made a sensible offer earlier they might have taken it.

[CoolClaret]

Genuinely don't think we need him tbh.

Vokes/Barnes/Wood all have their own strengths and weaknesses and all can impact a game differently in their own unique way.

Jay Rod has definitely lost a yard of pace, I liked him as an inside forward coming off the left but I don't think he can fulfill that role anymore.

[FactualFrank]

Vydra partnering Wood with Vokes/Barnes as impact subs I think is fine. We could maybe try again in January.

[Rick_Muller]

I say offer them a f#cking twix (not king size) and tell them to f#ck off for messing us about every bloody transfer window for whatever player. I like Jay Rod, and I would love to see him back with us, but not at any price. They've made their bed, now f#cking sleep in it with a player who wanted to leave.

[NL Claret]

Less than 24 hours to go and it’s gone very quiet.

Suspect we’re done now, but the Dyche presser tonight should confirm if we have anything pending.

I wouldn't bank on it.

Some on here still craving more spending. £2m is now peanuts.

Nixon mentioned Bolasie earlier and there was a back up option if it didn't happen and that would be the final piece of the jigsaw.

Some on here might not cope to we'll with Jay Rod not coming home and blame the board for travelling to Turkey and not getting some extra peanuts out.

[CnBtruntru]

Thing is if West Brom sold Jay now they'd only be left with two strikers. If we'd have made a sensible offer earlier they might have taken it.

What may be a sensible offer or asking price to one party may not be to the other party.

[Silkyskills1]

Genuinely don't think we need him tbh.

Vokes/Barnes/Wood all have their own strengths and weaknesses and all can impact a game differently in their own unique way.

Jay Rod has definitely lost a yard of pace, I liked him as an inside forward coming off the left but I don't think he can fulfill that role anymore.

And yet they still want £20 million for him. Do we need him or just want him as part of the squad?

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

I wouldn't bank on it.

Some on here still craving more spending. £2m is now peanuts.

Nixon mentioned Bolasie earlier and there was a back up option if it didn't happen and that would be the final piece of the jigsaw.

Some on here might not cope to we'll with Jay Rod not coming home and blame the board for travelling to Turkey and not getting some extra peanuts out.

If it’s done Dyche will say we’re done. He’s not cryptic when it comes to things like this.

At the least local press will be informed they don’t need anyone on stand by for deadline day.

[aggi]

Just to add to the stats in terms of assists:

Vokes, Wood and Rodriguez all had 1 assist last season. Barnes had none. (So pretty immaterial for them all.)

[Taffy on the wing]

Vydra partnering Wood with Vokes/Barnes as impact subs I think is fine. We could maybe try again in January.

Barnes is way better than Wood! End of....

[DCWat]

They don’t need to sell, so it was always going to be difficult. The only way this transfer will happen is if Rodriguez starts being awkward.

Not sure that’s the case. Dawson still seems pretty stuck despite being awkward.

I actually support their stance (whether or not I agree with the values placed on the players). Jay and Dawson signed contracts and the WBA has every right to hold out for what they see to be the right price.

I’d hope that we do the same. Too many players agreeing to deals when it suits and then wanting to jump ship at the first sign of something better.

[Steddyman]

Thing is if West Brom sold Jay now they'd only be left with two strikers. If we'd have made a sensible offer earlier they might have taken it.

They are in the Championship so they can loan another striker to replace him beyond the deadline.

[KRBFC]

If that is true we just had a very lucky escape.

£16m was bending over backwards, £18m is lying prone over a barrel, with a red carpet leading up, a mariachi band playing and a mountainous pile of Twix for the apres rogering WBA party.

If it isn't and we are still interested we should take a leaf out of Watford's play book and offer WBA a cash only deal of £12m for Jay Rod. The worst that could happen at this late stage in the window is that they say no, which would be no different to what they have done throughout the window.

The one good thing about our dealings with WBA in this window is that our refusal to pay over the odds has sent a clear message to all the other clubs about the way we go about our transfer deals.

If clubs are difficult and they try to hold us to ransom they get nowhere and a deal is not done.

In contrast, if they treat our interest in reasonable manner a deal that is fair for all parties gets done very quickly.

Backtracking and paying over the odds for Jay Rod would undo all that and send the wrong message out.

Yeah lets offer them £12M now when we have apparently had a bid of £18M rejected today, sounds like a great idea.

[Bop]

Can’t help feeling for Rodriguez in all of this. Made it plain he would prefer to leave. To his home town club. Towards the back end of his career. Can’t belive wages would be an issue. Supposedly been very professional. Unfortunately it may be the last chance he gets. Can’t see us going for him again unless (God forbid) we drop down.

[ElectroClaret]

Not sure West Brom have done owt wrong
They've stuck by their asking price and we've stuck by our valuation.

This.

They maybe assholes to deal with, but it's not WBA's mission or responsibility
in life to accommodate or pander to Burnley's requirements.

Rightly or wrongly, depending on your opinion, they value JR higher than we do.

Yes, there's the personal angle whereby Jay may have made his wishes clear,
but they're running a business. It's up to them HOW they run it.
And like some have said, we don't have to deal with them.

[northeastclaret]

Not sure that’s the case. Dawson still seems pretty stuck despite being awkward.

I actually support their stance (whether or not I agree with the values placed on the players). Jay and Dawson signed contracts and the WBA has every right to hold out for what they see to be the right price.

I’d hope that we do the same. Too many players agreeing to deals when it suits and then wanting to jump ship at the first sign of something better.

Quite a different stance than Pulis who was saying words to the effect ,'that it is unfair to hold the players back when they have a chance to play in the premier league.

Yes they signed contracts, which I think would be more reasonable to comply with if they didn't have their salary halved. This can easily build resentment and back fire on WBA regarding team morale.

[Spijed]

Can’t help feeling for Rodriguez in all of this. Made it plain he would prefer to leave. To his home town club. Towards the back end of his career. Can’t belive wages would be an issue. Supposedly been very professional. Unfortunately it may be the last chance he gets. Can’t see us going for him again unless (God forbid) we drop down.

I wish I was in a situation where I was earning around £3 million a year plus any bonuses but didn't know where I'd be playing in the next couple of weeks.

I'm sure he'll cope!

[KRBFC]

Can’t help feeling for Rodriguez in all of this. Made it plain he would prefer to leave. To his home town club. Towards the back end of his career. Can’t belive wages would be an issue. Supposedly been very professional. Unfortunately it may be the last chance he gets. Can’t see us going for him again unless (God forbid) we drop down.

Boo hoo, poor Rodriguez, he really cares about us doesn't he? Jumped ship at the first opportunity to Southampton then rejected us last year to join WBA. Now he's been relegated and had his wages cut, he's suddenly desperate to return home. One of our own? my arse.

[clarethomer]

His pic is up on SSN so there may be an update....

[tiger76]

Quite a different stance than Pulis who was saying words to the effect ,'that it is unfair to hold the players back when they have a chance to play in the premier league.

Yes they signed contracts, which I think would be more reasonable to comply with if they didn't have their salary halved. This can easily build resentment and back fire on WBA regarding team morale.

If Dawson and Rodriguez see other Albion players getting moves to Premier League clubs,and they are left in limbo then it definitely could rebound on them,it's only 2 games into the Championship campaign but on the current evidence i can't see WBA bouncing back.

[Down_Rover]

Boo hoo, poor Rodriguez, he really cares about us doesn't he? Jumped ship at the first opportunity to Southampton then rejected us last year to join WBA. Now he's been relegated and had his wages cut, he's suddenly desperate to return home. One of our own? my arse.

Ant disagree with this. He has just become one of those many players who left us for glory and fell on his face. Andy Gray, Austin, Blake ( first time), Andre Gray plus some

As for West Brom, they do need the money they could hardly pay their wages at the back end of last season and have now lost a game of poker for peanuts or £2m. Another Portsmouth in the making I hope

[Winstonswhite]

People really have short memories. It was anything but jumping ship.

Howe sold Rodriguez to Premier League Southampton for a record fee of 7 million whilst we were scratching around skint in the Championship thinking he’d get some of the money to spend on some signings. As it was he got given diddly squat. And Howe “jumped ship” in th3 Autumn.

Don’t let the facts stop you sticking the boot in though.

[BurnleyFC]

People really have short memories. It was anything but jumping ship.

Howe sold Rodriguez to Premier League Southampton for a record fee of 7 million whilst we were scratching around skint in the Championship thinking he’d get some of the money to spend on some signings. As it was he got given diddly squat. And Howe “jumped ship” in th3 Autumn.

Don’t let the facts stop you sticking the boot in though.

Hard to disagree with the impression that he opted to join West Brom last summer for a bigger pay packet, though.

I think £16m (let alone £20m) plus wages for him is a massive waste of resources.

[BabylonClaret]

Just pay the asking price! Another £2m is peanuts in today's market especially if his wages have been agreed!

No way. We dont value him at 20. If we did i am sure our last bid would have been 20. Time to walk.

Unfortunately we could have had this outcome last week by offering our bottom line then.

Other than the protraction here i think weve doen the right thing

[dermotdermot]

The good news is that Sam is definitely training with the team in Turkey. Looks like a impressive stadium even though it keeps being said that only has a capacity for 17,500. I’m that figure should be higher.

[Raz]

I can see his value in the no 10 role, especially for us however his stats don't back him up for a striker at that valuation.

[Blackrod]

People really have short memories. It was anything but jumping ship.

Howe sold Rodriguez to Premier League Southampton for a record fee of 7 million whilst we were scratching around skint in the Championship thinking he’d get some of the money to spend on some signings. As it was he got given diddly squat. And Howe “jumped ship” in th3 Autumn.

Don’t let the facts stop you sticking the boot in though.

Howe didn't leave because he wasn't given enough funds. He left because he was homesick and probably not far off getting the boot.

[Milltown1882]

Are there any other players on planet earth available in the transfer window before it shuts? Touching 450 replies on a post about a player that wasn’t even that great when he played for us and won’t set the Championship alight this season.

Let’s get Ollie Norwood in too - ‘one of our own’

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Are there any other players on planet earth available in the transfer window before it shuts? Touching 450 replies on a post about a player that wasn’t even that great when he played for us and won’t set the Championship alight this season.

Let’s get Ollie Norwood in too - ‘one of our own’

Odd the manager who guided us to 7th last season seems to rate him.

[summitclaret]

Wood not in Turkey (bitten apparantly) and Vokes is. Interesting?

[tiger76]

I can see his value in the no 10 role, especially for us however his stats don't back him up for a striker at that valuation.

But we have Vydra as a no 10,if we have to choose between Jay and Bolasie,i'd tend to favour the latter as a more pressing concern.

Wages could be an issue but if we save 2-3 million on the transfer,this could go towards a decent signing on fee for Yannick.

[claret59]

'Boo hoo, poor Rodriguez, he really cares about us doesn't he? Jumped ship at the first opportunity to Southampton then rejected us last year to join WBA. Now he's been relegated and had his wages cut, he's suddenly desperate to return home. One of our own? my arse.'

This was not a case of 'jumping ship at the first opportunity.' JR agreed to a contract extension ( when he could easily have let his contract run down,) near to the end of his contract so that Burnley would get a much higher transfer payment. He did not ask for a transfer so he was hardly jumping ship. It was always known that he was an outstanding player who would move on to a PL Club when the opportunity arrived, as it duly did.

He was a good club man, as he is being so now at WBA. He is being respectful to his current employers by keeping quiet about the possible transfer and making himself available to the Club who are paying his wages.

I hope Burnley can still get him back. He is a proven player at PL level.

[KRBFC]

'Boo hoo, poor Rodriguez, he really cares about us doesn't he? Jumped ship at the first opportunity to Southampton then rejected us last year to join WBA. Now he's been relegated and had his wages cut, he's suddenly desperate to return home. One of our own? my arse.'

This was not a case of 'jumping ship at the first opportunity.' JR agreed to a contract extension ( when he could easily have let his contract run down,) near to the end of his contract so that Burnley would get a much higher transfer payment. He did not ask for a transfer so he was hardly jumping ship. It was always known that he was an outstanding player who would move on to a PL Club when the opportunity arrived, as it duly did.

He was a good club man, as he is being so now at WBA. He is being respectful to his current employers by keeping quiet about the possible transfer and making himself available to the Club who are paying his wages.

I hope Burnley can still get him back. He is a proven player at PL level.

HE TURNED US DOWN LAST SUMMER TO SIGN FOR WBA, HE MADE HIS BED NOW HE CAN LIE IN IT..............