Ben Gibson

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:17 pm

Sky reporting we have bid £12m for Boro’s Gibson.

DustyBawls · Post by **DustyBawls** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:18 pm

I thought Man U were in for him.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:19 pm

Things are hottng up.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:20 pm

12m! Is that the first half of the instalment?

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:21 pm

Dyche has the board sh*t scared

what I like to see

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:21 pm

Don't know what I did there

It came up with the same comments on two posts and then it wouldn't let me delete either post and then I ended up with duplicate duplicate posts lol

You can see my original post in sgr's post

I need to lay down

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:22 pm

Duplicate

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:22 pm

mkmel wrote:He is the one that I would like if we could get him and fee and wages were ok

If Ben Mee was to leave then he is an excellent left sided centre back and would give us the balance in our centre back partnership

Agree completely

DustyBawls · Post by **DustyBawls** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:26 pm

I think it's a starting bid. I'd expec him to be nearer £20 million for it to be accepted.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:28 pm

It’ll be a ruse to hurry WBA and Dawson up.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:31 pm

DCWat wrote:12m! Is that the first half of the instalment?

If Gibson wants to move up to the EPL, and uncle Stevie has finally warmed to the idea of giving his nephew the chance to do that, it is a decent "get the ball rolling" bid.

If Mawson is going for £15m to £20m, depending on which rumour you read, then a £12m to £15m for Ben is reasonable.

He looked good last season, but nowhere near as good as he looked in the season prior to that. The valuation of Dawson by WBA is probably distorting the realistic asking prices for centre backs a bit, but their valuation is bonkers.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:34 pm

agreenwood wrote:It’ll be a ruse to hurry WBA and Dawson up.

agree

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:34 pm

SGr wrote:Sky reporting we have bid £12m for Boro’s Gibson.

Garlick is a master at this. Make fans think he is interested in a player. Place bid and basically let other clubs know that a player is now available. Other clubs outbid us and we moan that the finanaces got away from us.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:35 pm

agreenwood wrote:It’ll be a ruse to hurry WBA and Dawson up.

Would prefer Gibson over Dawson

Mind you if Ben Mee was to leave we could do with both

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:35 pm

Yes please.

DustyBawls · Post by **DustyBawls** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:35 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Garlick is a master at this. Make fans think he is interested in a player. Place bid and basically let other clubs know that a player is now available. Other clubs outbid us and we moan that the finanaces got away from us.

A player's agent will often put the word about, regardless of who bids. It's so a bidding war breaks out, the price rises, and they get more commission.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:36 pm

Long Time Lurker wrote:If Gibson wants to move up to the EPL, and uncle Stevie has finally warmed to the idea of giving his nephew the chance to do that, it is a decent "get the ball rolling" bid.

If Mawson is going for £15m to £20m, depending on which rumour you read, then a £12m to £15m for Ben is reasonable.

He looked good last season, but nowhere near as good as he looked in the season prior to that. The valuation of Dawson by WBA is probably distorting the realistic asking prices for centre backs a bit, but their valuation is bonkers.

Guessing Mawson only has a year left kn his contract hence the cheap price...I think Gibson still has 3/4 years left on his contract

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:36 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Garlick is a master at this. Make fans think he is interested in a player. Place bid and basically let other clubs know that a player is now available. Other clubs outbid us and we moan that the finanaces got away from us.

Bore off cleveley

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:37 pm

The Boro fans won't accept Gibson leaving for a club they see as smaller than themselves, there is no chance he will leave them for us unless we pay over the odds, or they are skint (which is unlikely).

As has been said it must be a player to play WBA.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:39 pm

Mawson's contract's up in June 2020.

Gibson's expires on 30 June 2022.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:40 pm

taken from the Boro forum
"I think we are going to struggle to get what we want for him. I think if we can get them up to £16m we will sell. It’s sickening, especially when you hear players like Harry Maguire, who arguably this time last year Gibson was rated higher than, being quoted for £65m, but after an average season in the Championship and only teams like Burnley and Southampton interested we will struggle to get much more."

DustyBawls · Post by **DustyBawls** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:43 pm

I still expect Everton to come in and sign him.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:44 pm

Embarrassing offer , ridiculous

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:47 pm

joey13 wrote:Embarrassing offer , ridiculous

No idea if the story is true, but if it is, embarrassing would be the word.
I'd eat Donkey **** on the moon if we got Gibson for anything less than 15. I should think Boro would want at least 20.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:48 pm

He might have a release clause in his contract

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:48 pm

joey13 wrote:Embarrassing offer , ridiculous

don't see any boro fans thinking he's worth more than 15 million on their forum

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:48 pm

Would be a fantastic signing.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:52 pm

Goody1975 wrote:The Boro fans won't accept Gibson leaving for a club they see as smaller than themselves, there is no chance he will leave them for us unless we pay over the odds, or they are skint (which is unlikely).

As has been said it must be a player to play WBA.

In their usual deluded state I suspect that applies to most clubs bar a handful in the top two divisions.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:53 pm

Maybe Vokes involved in any deal ?

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:56 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:In their usual deluded state I suspect that applies to most clubs bar a handful in the top two divisions.

It's just they have a chairman who although is a shrewd businessman, is also seen as one of them. Selling one of their prized assets to ickle old Burnley on the cheap will not go down well, so would expect them to hold out for at least £20 Million.

If one of the big six came calling and they could say "we couldn't stand in the way of Benjamin who has been loyal to us since relegation from the Premier League" it would probably be less of an issue.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:57 pm

I'll be honest, I'd rather try and get Kurt Zouma - only 23, France international and out of favour at Chelsea

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:58 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Maybe Vokes involved in any deal ?

What's this obsession with Vokes leaving? Why would he leave?

I would only give Vokes for Gibson in a straight swap deal and I'm sure boro wouldn't be happy with thay

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:58 pm

Would be fantastic though if true

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:58 pm

Goody1975 wrote:The Boro fans won't accept Gibson leaving for a club they see as smaller than themselves, there is no chance he will leave them for us unless we pay over the odds, or they are skint (which is unlikely).

As has been said it must be a player to play WBA.

Not really, when you take into account our ability to take defenders and give them the finishing polish that will elevate them from a good player to a national team contender we should be an attractive destination for Gibson.

He would also have a real chance for playing time on the left of our defence, which he might not get at other clubs.

He could have left them last season, but he stuck with the team to assist in their promotion push. During this window they have brought in two new defenders to support another push. Their fans can't really begrudge Gibson a move if he thinks it is time to make one.

If Uncle Stevie is willing to add his support then I can see this one happening, albeit after a bit of negotiation over the initial fee and add-ons for things like an England call up - providing that we don't get gazumped by another club, which is an ever present danger with any transfer these days.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:02 pm

Gibson to Burnley
Vokes to Boro
Jay rod to Burnley
Ben mee to Everton
Dawson to Burnley
Clucas to Burnley

I can get use to this transfer malarkey.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:I'll be honest, I'd rather try and get Kurt Zouma - only 23, France international and out of favour at Chelsea

Can't see him being in our price range, even with the fall from favour. Stoke had to stump up £7m just to loan him last season.

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:09 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:No idea if the story is true, but if it is, embarrassing would be the word.
I'd eat Donkey **** on the moon if we got Gibson for anything less than 15. I should think Boro would want at least 20.

Don’t think many Boro fans, myself included think we would get more than 18m at most for him after last season. He was average at best. We are well stocked at centre back and keeping Gibson is hindering dael fry’s progress in the first team. We have flint, Ayala, fry, shotton, McNair can play centre back, also Nathan wood who pulis believes could make his league debut before his 17th birthday. Man U and Man City have been sniffing around wood this summer and both clubs have also been linked with fry, who is an england u21.

Anything 15m plus and I think he will go.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:14 pm

Estonhills wrote:Don’t think many Boro fans, myself included think we would get more than 18m at most for him after last season. He was average at best. We are well stocked at centre back and keeping Gibson is hindering dael fry’s progress in the first team. We have flint, Ayala, fry, shotton, McNair can play centre back, also Nathan wood who pulis believes could make his league debut before his 17th birthday. Man U and Man City have been sniffing around wood this summer and both clubs have also been linked with fry, who is an england u21.

Anything 15m plus and I think he will go.

Cheers bud. Maybe a change of scenery will do Ben good too?

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:18 pm

Sam has to stay unless we sign a better striker than him in the next week and even then I wouldn't want him to leave.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:19 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Maybe Vokes involved in any deal ?

We could give them Walters.

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:20 pm

He’s Boro through and through. Great leader, had a fantastic season in the premier league, not so great last year. Last summer he signed a new contract after we turned down £20 million from WBA and pulis then WBA manager said it would be very hard to get Ben from Boro. Most Boro fans are more worried about traore leaving than loosing Ben.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:21 pm

Possibility Uncle Steve asked him to stay on last season with the promise of a move if they didn’t go straight back up.
It would spoil the family Xmas party if he reneged.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:26 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Maybe Vokes involved in any deal ?

are u fuckin crazy! Why would we sell our best striker?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:33 pm

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/ ... en-gibson/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; been rejected

DustyBawls · Post by **DustyBawls** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:35 pm

11? 12? I think nearer 20 will be needed.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:36 pm

Clucas,J Rod and Gibson and nobody out would give us a decent squad. Cant see all three happening

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:39 pm

Im not ' fuckin crazy ' as far as Im aware...merely pointing out Boro were said to be interested in Vokes

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:47 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/ ... en-gibson/ been rejected

Northern echo will be correct. It is the clubs chosen paper after the evening gazette has been frozen out and journalists banned from the stadium. £11m is taking the Mick really.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:58 pm

You said 15 plus and he'll go... but an opening bid of 11 is taking the mick ?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:02 pm

Estonhills wrote:Northern echo will be correct. It is the clubs chosen paper after the evening gazette has been frozen out and journalists banned from the stadium. £11m is taking the Mick really.

it's what we do