Joe Hart incoming ?

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:27 pm

As Celine Dion once sang...

I believe in Joe Hart and Joe Hart will go on and on.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:30 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:in my mind this makes me think

chelsea keeper to Madrid
Everton Keeper to Chelsea
Burnley keeper to Everton
Hart to us.

Maybe two and two but that's what I'm thinking.

Whilst I won't give you a like, that's it in a nutshell.
These calf strains are just transfers in process. Defour off to China also applies.

I have never been a Hart fan, so far from enamoured at this news. He is currently having a medical and Pep G is out celebrating.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:31 pm

Nixon didn't have this one or Gibson.

Losing his touch?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:32 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I’ll have some ketchup and mayonnaise for my humble pie please...

I'll give you both and a beer to wash it down with

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:56 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:in my mind this makes me think

chelsea keeper to Madrid
Everton Keeper to Chelsea
Burnley keeper to Everton
Hart to us.

Maybe two and two but that's what I'm thinking.

Pope and Heaton are injured, they’re unlikely to be going anywhere this window.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:15 pm

I think this is a great bit of business. Hart has the instinctual reflexes that don't leave you , confidence is the only thing for him at the moment. We as a club will rekindle this without a doubt.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:16 pm

Longsider wrote:I think this is a great bit of business. Hart has the instinctual reflexes that don't leave you , confidence is the only thing for him at the moment. We as a club will rekindle this without a doubt.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:21 pm

Joe Hart is a very good keeper.

We haven't just signed Joe Neenan MkII

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:27 pm

Some utter nonsense on this thread. I hope we sign him given our situation.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:33 pm

Man City forums acknowledging that Joe Hart will be signing for us sometime in the next few days for £4M

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:34 pm

I was saying before the World Cup squad was announced that Joe Hart was still a very good goalkeeper and I could completely understand if Southgate picked him as one of his three. Earlier on in his Manchester City and England career he was truly exceptional.

This would be a fantastic signing.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:39 pm

He’s had a better career than any English ‘keeper in the last thirty years and I can’t see that being bettered anytime soon.

And he’s still only 31...

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:41 pm

Assuming he signs for us we will have 3 England International goalkeepers in our squad

Surely no other club has ever had that before

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:51 pm

What we need is players with something to prove and hungry. This may be younger ones who are taking a step up or someone whose career has gone a bit off track and needs to get back on it.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:58 pm

If we do sign him then I hope he leaves his billy big b0llocks attitude at Man City.

Surely Dyche would be able to sort that out though.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:00 pm

Is this the same Joe Hart who was absolutely crucified on here before the world cup for being useless?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:03 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Is this the same Joe Hart who was absolutely crucified on here before the world cup for being useless?

Yep. But if he becomes a Claret then he’ll get my full support.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:04 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Is this the same Joe Hart who was absolutely crucified on here before the world cup for being useless?

Aye. He's the one who spilled Guddy's shot for Wood to score.

He may already be on side for us.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:05 pm

Cant see why anyone wouldnt fully support him but you can still hold a consistent opinion on his ability regardless of who he plays for and without compromising you support of him

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:13 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Is this the same Joe Hart who was absolutely crucified on here before the world cup for being useless?

Yes, I was one of them. Once he’s in our colours he’ll have my full support.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:19 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Cant see why anyone wouldnt fully support him but you can still hold a consistent opinion on his ability regardless of who he plays for and without compromising you support of him

I think he’ll be the third best keeper at the club if he comes.

lrac · Post by **lrac** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:23 pm

If he joins the clarets . I think some of you won't give him a chance.i trust the manager .have a good in .xxxxxxxxxx moaners

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:23 pm

After one half decent game for us no doubt all the people who were shagging him off before the World Cup will be shouting that he's England's best keeper, should be England's number one etc etc.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:27 pm

lrac wrote:If he joins the clarets . I think some of you won't give him a chance.i trust the manager .have a good in .xxxxxxxxxx moaners

Dont worry if we clap loudly enough with a happy smile on our faces we'll drown out those nasty moaners

brigante · Post by **brigante** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:30 pm

This amount of goalkeeping quality to choose from is reminiscent of the Jensen/Király days

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:32 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:He’s had a better career than any English ‘keeper in the last thirty years and I can’t see that being bettered anytime soon.
And he’s still only 31...

David Seaman but for £4m he’s a snip

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:32 pm

I think some on here need to give their heads a wobble, and give themselves a big reality check.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:33 pm

brigante wrote:This amount of goalkeeping quality to choose from is reminiscent of the Jensen/Király days

Dont forget Penny! What a trio that was and imagine being 3rd choice of them you'd have to be a real clown of a keeper

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:36 pm

4m for our 3rd England goalkeeper. Apparently excellent in the dressing room.

Wonder if any team in history has ever had 3 England international goalkeepers in their squad.... Tony one for you to answer I reckon

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:37 pm

Is it possible to think he isn't England's best keeper, yet still be happy with signing him?
We have come a long way haven't we?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:38 pm

piston broke wrote:David Seaman but for £4m he’s a snip

Hart and Seaman both in their prime? Hart shades it for me.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:41 pm

martin_p wrote:Pope and Heaton are injured, they’re unlikely to be going anywhere this window.

You are missing the 'calf strain' code for he's on his way, so not going to play and risk injury.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:41 pm

Is the £4m fee related to the giant pay cut he'll be taking?
City clearly don't need £4m, so is it not so much a transfer fee as opposed to sharing the wage? I would imagine he'd be on 100k per week at city, so even if he's on (well top end) 50k at Burnley that £4m over three years adds 25k per week to his wage.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:42 pm

dpinsussex wrote:4m for our 3rd England goalkeeper. Apparently excellent in the dressing room.

Wonder if any team in history has ever had 3 England international goalkeepers in their squad.... Tony one for you to answer I reckon

Get Robinson back in for a couple of weeks and we would have four, momentarily!

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:45 pm

try £175k a week if reports are to be believed

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:48 pm

dpinsussex wrote:4m for our 3rd England goalkeeper. Apparently excellent in the dressing room.

Wonder if any team in history has ever had 3 England international goalkeepers in their squad.... Tony one for you to answer I reckon

I asked the same question earlier in this thread but nobody answered it

I think we know the answer is no it has never happened before

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:51 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:Hart and Seaman both in their prime? Hart shades it for me.

Yeah, Seaman just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, especially that goal against Ronaldinho, whereas Hart, well, he’s all heart aint he...

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:53 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Is the £4m fee related to the giant pay cut he'll be taking?
City clearly don't need £4m, so is it not so much a transfer fee as opposed to sharing the wage? I would imagine he'd be on 100k per week at city, so even if he's on (well top end) 50k at Burnley that £4m over three years adds 25k per week to his wage.

£120k at City according to reports but there's a possibility that City will pay a chunk of that to encourage him to leave.

A number of clubs have done that over the years after overpaying someone.

Leeds are probably one of the first I remember doing it when they had Risdale financially wrecking the place.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:57 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Yeah, Seaman just leaves a bad taste in the mouth, especially that goal against Ronaldinho, whereas Hart, well, he’s all heart aint he...

What leaves a bad taste in the mouth?????

You might want to re phrase that.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:58 pm

Not saying it's true but on the Man City forums they are saying he is on £120K a week and we will be paying him £60K a week

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:59 pm

When the England squad was announce and Pope had beaten Hart for the 3rd position, I was over the moon, pleased as punch.
I think I'm in shock at what is happening!

CatonClaret · Post by **CatonClaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:00 pm

No way we’re paying him 60k a week. Maybe because we’re apparently only paying City £4m he’s getting a sizeable signing on fee.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:00 pm

IanMcL wrote:Get Robinson back in for a couple of weeks and we would have four, momentarily!

None of our goalkeepers will be in the next England squad

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:02 pm

mkmel wrote:I asked the same question earlier in this thread but nobody answered it

I think we know the answer is no it has never happened before

I’ve just answered it

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:12 pm

This is a very shrewd bit of business by BFC. Buy him now for £4 million, get his confidence up and back to his best, then in a years time he will want a huge pay rise so we can sell him back to a top team for £20 million.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:14 pm

dpinsussex wrote:4m for our 3rd England goalkeeper. Apparently excellent in the dressing room.

Wonder if any team in history has ever had 3 England international goalkeepers in their squad.... Tony one for you to answer I reckon

Ah, now I get it, another great signing for the dressing room.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:17 pm

It will be a great signing just to see his face when we sing "Englands number 3"

Touchline · Post by **Touchline** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:26 pm

This appears to be happening.
So, Heaton or Pope must be leaving??
We can t have three fit England keepers come January.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:40 pm

joey13 wrote:I’ve just answered it

No you haven't

I was asking if any other club have ever had 3 goalkeepers in their squad who have played for England at any time
And all 3 have

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:44 pm

CatonClaret wrote:No way we’re paying him 60k a week. Maybe because we’re apparently only paying City £4m he’s getting a sizeable signing on fee.

Hi Caton, how does that work? We don't want to pay a player £XX,000 per week, so we pay him less, but make up the difference with a big signing on fee? Clubs that do that "must be made of money." Why would Burnley push up our costs by paying out up front?

Yes, it happens when a player is "in demand" - put how many were competing for Hart's signature?

I suspect £60,000 per week isn't a bad shout for Burnley's "maximum wage."

Wages in the 2016/17 season £61 million. Let's take £10 off for all employees, including SD outside the 1st team squad.

For simplicity: lets assume 24 players in squad, and on average, the squad can be split into "entry level" "mid-level" and "star players" (I know it's not really that simple...

Let's set "stars" at £60,000 per week = £3 million (for simplicity) per season x 8 players - £24 million.

Mid-level: £40,000 per week = £2 million x 8 players = £16 million.

Entry level: £20,000 per week = £1 million x 8 = £8 million.

That gives us £48 million - then add in employer's national insurance @13.8%. We aren't too far away.

And, don't forget that £61 million wages was for 2016/17 - and wages have increased in 2017/18 season. My guess is we will learn of £80 million wages when the 2017/18 accounts are released in (late) March 2019.

I'm not saying my calculations are correct, but £60,000 per week for Joe Hart is easily within the framework for 2018/19.

I just hope there's enough in the kitty to get Ben Mee signed up for a few more seasons.

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