Joe Hart incoming ?

John Gayles Shoulder · Post by **John Gayles Shoulder** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:20 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Did he pass the medical or not?

Doubt it. It was his inability to pass things that saw him out of favour at City in the first place

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:38 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Did he pass the medical or not?

Nothing on the club site so I expect he's still there

Zesty · Post by **Zesty** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:41 pm

I can’t believe the negativity towards signing Hart.

He’s not a shite keeper just desperately out of form and unsettled from loans. Imagine how he will be after training with our keepers and Mercer, look what he’s done with Heaton and Pope, signed from relegated Charlton and Bristol City. The way we defend will also cut some errors from Hart because he won’t often get in the situation to make the ones he has been.

In terms of a ‘name’ signing Joe Hart is a massive name, England keeper, numerous awards whilst at City.

4m is a absolute bargain. Top signing.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:47 pm

Shampoo now stocked in club shop.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:49 pm

IanMcL wrote:Shampoo now stocked in club shop.

Cue tumbleweed.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:52 pm

starting_11 wrote:What the actual **** SD thinks he doing though is beyond me. He's made a couple of major fuckups in his time here but this one takes the biscuit.

Lord Rothbury · Post by **Lord Rothbury** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:56 pm

It may indicate that Heaton is not close to full fitness?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:59 pm

Or off to Merseyside

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:02 pm

If our manager and goal keeping coach can turn a somewhat inexperienced keeper into an England international what could they do with an experienced England international who has the lot just needs a bit of confidence and a decent defence. The more I think about it the more I like it. UTC

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:03 pm

Bloody hell IanMcL surely he is better than playing second fiddle to England's number one Pickford and won't play third fiddle at Pool, so why should he go to Tranmere Rovers?

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:06 pm

Paul Waine wrote:The way I see this deal:

1) Reported in Times that it is 2 year deal with an option on a 3rd year. It doesn't say whether the option is the club's or Hart's.
2) Joe Hart will receive the same wage this season as he would have got if he stayed at City: Burnley pay part and City make up the rest. So, pay cut only comes in the 2nd year of contract.
3) Scenario 1: sort out Joe Hart, Tom fit, Nick fit - we have one more "international keeper" competing for No1 spot than any club needs. (Two, of course, is a luxury - but, I think we all like luxury). So, one of them can be sold....
4) Scenario 2: Joe Hart's form doesn't return to his best. So, he stays for 2 years - and Burnley don't exercise option for a 3rd year..... unless, of course, in the meantime Tom or Nick has already moved on..... or, worse, Tom or Nick don't make full recovery from their injuries and aren't back to their best.

My view, very smart piece of business by Burnley - and all credit to Sean Dyche if his reputation is attracting players to join Burnley. The club has put £4 million plus wages into a player who was once very good - at a time when we need another keeper (even if only for a few weeks until Tom is fully fit). We have the chance to improve/restore Joe Hart. We have the opportunity for a spare keeper who can be sold for a lot more than we've invested in Tom, Nick and Joe Hart combined. Really, what's not to like?

UTC

Exactly.
Spot On.

ClaretRock · Post by **ClaretRock** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:07 pm

Think this could be a good move, for both him and the club. The sentimental side wants Heaton to be our No1 but I feel Heart has the same ability with more experience. With Pope out it would at least provide close competition for that No1 shirt. Heaton deserves a chance to gain that position when he is fit but as I said in another post it's football and loyalty stands for nothing.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:10 pm

IanMcL wrote:Or off to Merseyside

Ian so fatr you have said Stephen Defour is off to China and Tom Heaton is off to Merseyside

Any other Burnley players leaving us?

Is Ben Mee leaving us?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:15 pm

New will only leave if we sign Dawson or similar, first.
Gibson might already put him out of the team.

The other two look likely.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:17 pm

Paul Waine wrote:The way I see this deal:

1) Reported in Times that it is 2 year deal with an option on a 3rd year. It doesn't say whether the option is the club's or Hart's.
2) Joe Hart will receive the same wage this season as he would have got if he stayed at City: Burnley pay part and City make up the rest. So, pay cut only comes in the 2nd year of contract.
3) Scenario 1: sort out Joe Hart, Tom fit, Nick fit - we have one more "international keeper" competing for No1 spot than any club needs. (Two, of course, is a luxury - but, I think we all like luxury). So, one of them can be sold....
4) Scenario 2: Joe Hart's form doesn't return to his best. So, he stays for 2 years - and Burnley don't exercise option for a 3rd year..... unless, of course, in the meantime Tom or Nick has already moved on..... or, worse, Tom or Nick don't make full recovery from their injuries and aren't back to their best.

My view, very smart piece of business by Burnley - and all credit to Sean Dyche if his reputation is attracting players to join Burnley. The club has put £4 million plus wages into a player who was once very good - at a time when we need another keeper (even if only for a few weeks until Tom is fully fit). We have the chance to improve/restore Joe Hart. We have the opportunity for a spare keeper who can be sold for a lot more than we've invested in Tom, Nick and Joe Hart combined. Really, what's not to like?

UTC

Total of £5M spent on 3 England Internationals
Incredible bits of business!

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:26 pm

RMutt wrote:Has anyone said ‘ Oh deer’ yet? If not you can have that one from me because I think it’s a decent enough signing if it happens.

Well he was STAGnating at Citeh and he’s not coming to Burnley for the Doe.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:28 pm

mdd2 wrote:Bloody hell IanMcL surely he is better than playing second fiddle to England's number one Pickford and won't play third fiddle at Pool, so why should he go to Tranmere Rovers?

Pickford is off to Chelsea.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:39 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Did he pass the medical or not?

Maybe he didn't fancy it in the end

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:43 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Did he pass the medical or not?

No

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:42 pm

tim_noone wrote:No

Oh really, what did he fail on?

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:43 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Oh really, what did he fail on?

Gloves were split apparently.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:44 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Oh really, what did he fail on?

Dandruff

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:46 pm

I can't imagine he'd fail a medical, assuming it's the same medical passed by Walters and Wells!

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:48 pm

IanMcL wrote:New will only leave if we sign Dawson or similar, first.
Gibson might already put him out of the team.

The other two look likely.

a village is missing its idiot.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:50 pm

One advantage that seems to be overlooked is that Hart has not got a crock shoulder. What is the guarantee that Tom and Nick will return to their previous form. A shoulder injury that has required surgery is serious but even more so for a keeper.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:57 pm

IanMcL wrote:Pickford is off to Chelsea.

That is far from certain.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:10 pm

Looking more certain now!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:10 pm

Longsider wrote:One advantage that seems to be overlooked is that Hart has not got a crock shoulder. What is the guarantee that Tom and Nick will return to their previous form. A shoulder injury that has required surgery is serious but even more so for a keeper.

Absolutely. And for either to return to absolute top form could take a long time.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:12 pm

fidelcastro wrote:a village is missing its idio:(

Hello Fidel

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:59 pm

IanMcL wrote:Shampoo now stocked in club shop.

As long as it's Head and Shoulders and not Palmolive

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:18 pm

IndigoLake wrote:As long as it's Head and Shoulders and not Palmolive

Or Slivercream!

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:16 pm

Apologies in advance - haven't read the whole thread so may well be repeating what others have said.

Basically international class 'keeper with 2/3 poor seasons behind him peppered with high-profile mistakes. According to my WHU colleague at work, toxic club, riddled with back-stabbing etc, Hart made the scapegoat - far from the only poor performer.

There's absolutely for certain a decent player in there who just needs the right club/coaching/environment to bring out the best in him - 31 is no age for a 'keeper. We have a proven track record in that department - only need look as far as Heaton and Pope for improvement or alternatively Keane and Gray who have not lived up to expectations where they have not been properly mentored and looked after.

If he succeeds then at some point we're going to make a financial killing on one of Pope or Heaton. If he fails to live up to expectations Lindegaard is very competent and the addition of Hart provides decent cover until Heaton/Pope return to full fitness - given today's market good and sensible business.

What's more Europa League campaign - how many in the squad have experience of club competition at that level?

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:28 pm

I haven't read ALL the thread either.

Did he have a medical after all that?

If so, did he pass?

Does anyone actually know for certain?

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:47 pm

"Does anyone actually know for certain?"

I think not, fidel. The fact that the news broke on Friday i.e. just before the weekend presumably explains why there's no news. We'll know soon enough.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:18 pm

I'm not sure if this has been posted before, but the following article talks about a golden handshake made by City to allow him to come to us.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... a-14991616" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:11 pm

Dyche played this down in his interview

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:02 pm

MRG wrote:Dyche played this down in his interview

he must be injured then

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:03 pm

MRG wrote:Dyche played this down in his interview

He never talks about other players unless its done and dusted

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 pm

Steddyman wrote:I'm not sure if this has been posted before, but the following article talks about a golden handshake made by City to allow him to come to us.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... a-14991616" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

£120k a week . FFS. Madness.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:40 pm

He had better bloody well sign after a 7 page thread

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:49 pm

dpinsussex wrote:He had better bloody well sign after a 7 page thread

Well Andrew Driver didn't sign after a 7 YEAR thread

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:31 pm

Can't believe it's off!!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:42 pm

tim_noone wrote:Can't believe it's off!!

Is it off?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:45 pm

Has Hart dropped another one?
Surely not!

Indecisive · Post by **Indecisive** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:49 pm

Niggling doubt that maybe this deal is being set up in response to Heaton potentially departing.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 9:57 pm

tim_noone wrote:Can't believe it's off!!

Seriously?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:55 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Is it off?

Apologies bill.....I was subconsciously thinking the milk which I bought today was off! Kind of day dreaming and all went blank after that..sorry for any misunderstanding.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:13 pm

tim_noone wrote:Apologies bill.....I was subconsciously thinking the milk which I bought today was off! Kind of day dreaming and all went blank after that..sorry for any misunderstanding.

What was the name of that character that Harry Enfield played?

Tim something

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:14 pm

Still can't believe that Heaton, Pope and Lindegaard would be happy with a permanent signing of Joe Hart

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:18 pm

MRG wrote:Dyche played this down in his interview

I think I would, if I could see the future.