Joe Hart incoming ?

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:19 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:Still can't believe that Heaton, Pope and Lindegaard would be happy with a permanent signing of Joe Hart
Very random. I think Pope will be ok with it.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:21 pm

Not on a 3 multi year deal he won't
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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by tim_noone » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:21 pm

mkmel wrote:What was the name of that character that Harry Enfield played?

Tim something ;)
If he was in goals...... Flowers? At a guess.
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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:36 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:Not on a 3 multi year deal he won't
I reckon he'll be persuaded.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Right_winger » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:23 am

FactualFrank wrote:I reckon he'll be persuaded.
By whom West Ham?

That’s is the rumour anyway.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Dom » Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:20 am

I'm happy with this if it comes off, a good keeper that is lacking confidence and form but he's way better than Lindegaard and Ledgzins.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Goobs » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:08 am

Lindegaard not done anything wrong really so far. Only beaten by a penalty and a wonder goal. Will be interesting to see who is registered in the 25 man squad should Hart sign. Will tell us how bad Tom's injury is assuming he is still here.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by DCWat » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:21 am

It’s perhaps one that will tell us more in January, or whenever Pope is back fit.

Assuming he is fit, I expect Tom to be first choice and it’s up to Hart to take his place. From Limdegaard’s perspective, for the short term at least, there is no change, he presumably remains as third choice.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:27 am

Indecisive wrote:Niggling doubt that maybe this deal is being set up in response to Heaton potentially departing.

And we’d be better off of it was.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:29 am

Goobs wrote:Lindegaard not done anything wrong really so far. Only beaten by a penalty and a wonder goal. Will be interesting to see who is registered in the 25 man squad should Hart sign. Will tell us how bad Tom's injury is assuming he is still here.
Hard to see Tom leaving this window as he has not been able to show he is OK from his shoulder injury. It would be a big gamble for anyone to take him permanently.We may lose a keeper in January and then it could be Tom BUT will we have been able to show that Nick Pope had fully recovered from injury? I think we will name Tom, Hart and Lindegaard as our three keepers this week. The fun will start in January.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by CFS » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:03 am

Heaton was out practicing 3 hours before the espanyol game which was weird.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by piston broke » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:11 am

Goobs wrote:Lindegaard not done anything wrong really so far. Only beaten by a penalty and a wonder goal. Will be interesting to see who is registered in the 25 man squad should Hart sign. Will tell us how bad Tom's injury is assuming he is still here.
Pope is out for 3 months, so they say. 25 man squad can be re-assigned then. So it’s Heaton, Hart & Lindegaard until Jan.
Good to read, above, that Tom was out training yesterday. A sign he’s getting there.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Goobs » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:17 am

With that you would assume therefore that Tom has 4 months to show what he can do and earn himself a move in January as I can't see any of him, Pope or Hart staying and being happy being number 3 and not even being in the squad every week.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by jlup1980 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:46 am

I think it's pretty clear what we're trying to do here. Hart for £4m could be an unbelievable signing. He was City no.1 until Pep took over, then he was Torino no.1 for a season and did ok. He was still England no.1 at this time. Last season was a disaster but is that all down to Joe Hart? He was at a club in disarray. He had a stinker against us but I'd suggest there was a lot of pressure on him before kick off and more than a hostile crowd to deal with.

Get him behind our back four and see how he fairs. He's potentially got 4 or 5 really good years left in him and if we can get his confidence back he'll be a huge asset. He's won 2 PL titles, 2 League Cups and 1 FA Cup. Not bad for starters. Add in 75 caps and 4 PL golden glove awards and it really gets tasty. Give him a chance is all I'll say.

We could also end up selling Heaton or Pope for far more money than we've paid for Hart. This really could be an inspired bit of business if you ask me.
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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:57 am

We are lucky that City want rid as it seems the £4million is the difference between what we are prepared to pay in wages this season compared with Hart's salary at City this season and he is OOC in 2019. The pay cut comes I suspect in years 2 and 3 of his apparent 3 year deal and we have add ons no doubt related to any later transfer fee, appearances and league position, more than likely survival this and subsequent seasons.
Does represent a way of getting around any salary problems for incomings still under contract elsewhere.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:59 am

jlup1980 wrote:I think it's pretty clear what we're trying to do here. Hart for £4m could be an unbelievable signing. He was City no.1 until Pep took over, then he was Torino no.1 for a season and did ok. He was still England no.1 at this time. Last season was a disaster but is that all down to Joe Hart? He was at a club in disarray. He had a stinker against us but I'd suggest there was a lot of pressure on him before kick off and more than a hostile crowd to deal with.

Get him behind our back four and see how he fairs. He's potentially got 4 or 5 really good years left in him and if we can get his confidence back he'll be a huge asset. He's won 2 PL titles, 2 League Cups and 1 FA Cup. Not bad for starters. Add in 75 caps and 4 PL golden glove awards and it really gets tasty. Give him a chance is all I'll say.

We could also end up selling Heaton or Pope for far more money than we've paid for Hart. This really could be an inspired bit of business if you ask me.

Surely this deal can't be sustained for more than 6 months, with Man City picking up the wages until then.

This would see us through the injury crisis and a decision will be made in the Jan window on who stays and who goes. £4m for 6 months must be the deal - - Hart is at least worth double that and a bit more at today's rates.

Stop-gap, short-term emergency signing. Hart doesn't have to fully commit to Burnley and visa-versa and he gets regular playing time to put himself in the window for a permanent move in January.

That's how I read it.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by DCWat » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:39 am

I assumed that his wages are being subsidised for this season, a golden handshake if you will from City.

After this I assume he falls in line with our salary cap.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:33 am

6 months? Rumours say it is a two or three year deal

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Steddyman » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:45 am

3 year permanent deal.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:34 pm

Has this one died?

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:37 pm

For someone who was reported to be having a medical on Friday it does seem strange that things have gone so quiet, unless a problem similar to Charlie Austin has been found or is pending.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Grumps » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:38 pm

Or clucas

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:40 pm

His chocolate wrists have melted and glass hands shattered during his medical.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:45 pm

The cynic in me says Hart has already had maximum publicity out of this "shock" move.
It's a good way of inviting the best offers and timing is everything. He knows that BFC want him urgently and will give him game time but so might someone else in the final days of the window !!.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:59 pm

Wonder if he is stalling in case Chelsea come in for him or Everton if Pickford leaves?

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by piston broke » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:06 pm

Sky Bet now quoting 1/20 to us.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:18 pm

Well it is looking a tad dodgy given what was said on Friday and what has happened since.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Steddyman » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:25 pm

Making me nervous too. What seems to happen is the press get wind of a signing for us, we spend our time getting it over the line, then someone comes in and hijacks it. Hopefully not the case here as I think he would be a good match for us.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:30 pm

Nothing happening today according to Chris Boden who told us the deal is going through today.....

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:37 pm

Would guess it is more to do with the package he is getting off Man City as a severance package rather than what we have done.

Would be delighted if it got over the line as I think like many others that Mercer and Dyche will get him back to the level he was performing at 2/3 years ago. That is more my belief in the talents of Mercer and SD. If we didnt get it over the line I will not lose any sleep as I still think with the way our defence operates and closes down the angles that Lindegaard will be protected enough and as proven in the last 2 games is not a bad shot stopper. The only worry I have with him is how poor we looked at corners and set pieces. This may or may not be his fault but I did feel he was not to vocal and commanding of his area in these situations

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Ightenclaret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:38 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Nothing happening today according to Chris Boden who told us the deal is going through today.....
Usual clear as mud from Mr ‘wish I was in the know’ Boden

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Zesty » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:38 pm

I’m going to say I don’t think we’ll sign Hart soon

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Post by Steddyman » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:43 pm

I'm guessing it is more likely related to image rights from Joe Hart (unless we have been gazumped).

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:01 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Would guess it is more to do with the package he is getting off Man City as a severance package rather than what we have done.

Would be delighted if it got over the line as I think like many others that Mercer and Dyche will get him back to the level he was performing at 2/3 years ago. That is more my belief in the talents of Mercer and SD. If we didnt get it over the line I will not lose any sleep as I still think with the way our defence operates and closes down the angles that Lindegaard will be protected enough and as proven in the last 2 games is not a bad shot stopper. The only worry I have with him is how poor we looked at corners and set pieces. This may or may not be his fault but I did feel he was not to vocal and commanding of his area in these situations
Lindegaard is nowhere near the quality of goalkeeper required to play at Premier league level. We're not playing the likes of Aberdeen every week and good defensive players that we have would be severely tested far too often knowing what was their last line of defence. Arguably the most important position on the field cannot be relied on with a 30 odd year old cast off.

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Post by ecc » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:05 pm

Shows how much rubbish/fake news does the round. The medical is usually the last step isn't it unless the player has a bad injury track record?

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:12 pm

Steddyman wrote:Making me nervous too. What seems to happen is the press get wind of a signing for us, we spend our time getting it over the line, then someone comes in and hijacks it. Hopefully not the case here as I think he would be a good match for us.
I can only think of Mawson where that scenario may have been true.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:12 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Lindegaard is nowhere near the quality of goalkeeper required to play at Premier league level. We're not playing the likes of Aberdeen every week and good defensive players that we have would be severely tested far too often knowing what was their last line of defence. Arguably the most important position on the field cannot be relied on with a 30 odd year old cast off.
We have seen him in 2 games. Regardless of opposition he did what was needed in each game as regards shot stopping. Only getting beat by a penalty and a worldie. Not saying I dont want Hart but if we dont get it over the line I cant seeing it being a massive issue. None of us know what is going on with Heaton and come Thu/ Sun he may be ready to play. We dont know.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by tim_noone » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:16 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Lindegaard is nowhere near the quality of goalkeeper required to play at Premier league level. We're not playing the likes of Aberdeen every week and good defensive players that we have would be severely tested far too often knowing what was their last line of defence. Arguably the most important position on the field cannot be relied on with a 30 odd year old cast off.
Harts also a 30 odd year old cast off. :?

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Reecey1987 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:21 pm

Tyrone marshall Said to be completed today, would say any announcement is pending finalising of paperwork and club staff being in Switzerland for the draw. Not heard that it's off and don't see any reason why it would be

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:25 pm

Thought lindegard did well certaint looked confident

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by karatekid » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:41 pm

Saw this on sky transfer centre!!

Sky sources understand Chelsea have made Stoke goalkeeper Jack Butland their top target if Thibaut Coutois leaves the club.

The Blues have switched their attention to the Stoke goalkeeper after Everton refused to negotiate over Jordan Pickford and Sky Sports News has been told there has already been informal contact between Chelsea and Stoke City at boardroom level.

It is understood the Potters would be prepared to allow Butland to leave for around £30m - but want any deal for the England goalkeeper to be resolved quickly, so that they would have time to buy a replacement.

The closer the negotiations go to 5pm on Thursday, the more likely it is that Stoke will demand a bigger fee, Sky Sports News understands.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:23 pm

Hart apparently is laid low with a back injury

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by ClaretAL » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:52 pm

Q Heaton to Stoke...

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:14 pm

Heaton is going nowhere if Hart signs he will be sidelined a few weeks before his back is better

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:17 pm

mdd2 wrote:Heaton is going nowhere if Hart signs he will be sidelined a few weeks before his back is better
Wow have we just targeted everyone that is injured.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:24 pm

Hart has buggered up his back when he picked up the golden hand shake from City

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by KRBFC » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:26 pm

Looks a great signing if it goes through, 31 year old, former World Class keeper, he should be in his prime. Pep knocked all confidence out of him when he loaned him out off the back of a poor Euros, Hart needs a settled club to knuckle down, I'm confident he'll be our best keeper very soon.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by CFS » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:30 am

KRBFC wrote:Looks a great signing if it goes through, 31 year old, former World Class keeper, he should be in his prime. Pep knocked all confidence out of him when he loaned him out off the back of a poor Euros, Hart needs a settled club to knuckle down, I'm confident he'll be our best keeper very soon.
Pep knocked his confidence yes but he was never a world class keeper. However with a brick wall of mee tarks and gibson in front of him we will keep him covered let's just hope he can catch a ball when needs be.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:21 am

CFS wrote:Pep knocked his confidence yes but he was never a world class keeper. However with a brick wall of mee tarks and gibson in front of him we will keep him covered let's just hope he can catch a ball when needs be.
''world class'' is a debatable thing but he was a top quality goalkeeper at City, his career has nosedived since that poor Euros.

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Re: Joe Hart incoming ?

Post by Pearcey » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:20 am

The Sun are reporting he’ll join today as number 1 keeper.

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