ARTICLE: No signings yet but speculation mounting

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:43 pm

Back to the subject of players we've been linked with. Rodriguez in the West Brom team today, Gibson not included by Middlesbrough.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:51 pm

Gibson 'unsettled' in football parlance. Rodriguez stated he was happy to play and not force a move, so WBA playing chess with Burnley.

Hart not playing anywhere?

Clucas....Claret?

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Bang on that one - we got to Walsall for the game and saw Chris Woods lining up and were told Marlon had been sold. Strangely, he was playing so poorly at the time, and had cost us the points at Carlisle in the previous game, that Wood coming in helped us to stay up.

Yes I was at that game and was gobsmacked that Marlon was not there and had been sold

Claretfoot · Post by **Claretfoot** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:41 pm

I'd be ok with Deeney but surely not a five-year deal. Deeney is physically a handful and would be great when Dyche fit, I'd see him as cover for Barnes. Chris Wood is a bit of enigma as he doesn't appear to do a lot but does know where the goal is when he gets a chance. Sam Vokes is a great team player who Dyche gets the best out of. Can't see Rodriguez and Dawson happening now and the board does right to move on. Gibson at £15 Million appears good business given how much we got for Keane last year and the fee being mentioned for Maguire to go to Man U.

Clucas fills the gap left by Scott Arfield. I suspect we saw the best of Scott Arfield at Burnley, but Clucas is an upgrade on Arfield and the kind of transfer that fits with a steady strategic improvement in the squad.

I think there must be more to Tom Heaton fitness than is apparent. But it shows how the club has progressed when a 31 year old ex-England goalkeeper with 75 caps wants to join us. Personally, I think it's a great deal for Joe Hart given our recent track record in developing defenders and goalkeepers. Same for Gibson.

Will there be a signing that's unexpected - a fit Danny Ings would be fabulous. Add to that a fit Defour and Brady, the upcoming Dunne and O'Neil and we don't look too bad. Did we beat Norwich 4 -1 at home to bring to an end a 19 game run without a victory? It's not that long ago, is it? I think we're in for a tough season because of increased expectations after last season and our European adventure, but Istanbul could be tough and then it might be a straightforward 40 points to stay in the Premier League:-) How much would Ralph Coates be worth now, he'd be a good signing.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:08 pm

'a fit Defour'

Is there still one available? I have grave doubts over that.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:12 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:'a fit Defour'

Is there still one available? I have grave doubts over that.

I have an Half fit Defour in my side...fantastic footballer.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:15 pm

Not doubting his ability.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:20 pm

Don't think we'll be seeing Defour any time soon .

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:42 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Don't think we'll be seeing Defour any time soon .

How would you describe 'any time soon'? I agree with what you are saying but just wondering if your 'soon' is anywhere near my 'soon'.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:42 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Don't think we'll be seeing Defour any time soon .

Substitute soon for again. We need a replacement in January who can play every game.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:57 pm

And we signed Hart, who has got us relegated.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:59 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:And we signed Hart, who has got us relegated.

Yes that’s the only reason

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:06 pm

joey13 wrote:Yes that’s the only reason

Glad you agree!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:32 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:And we signed Hart, who has got us relegated.

And there was me thinking we hadn't been relegated and we were still playing in the Premier League.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:05 pm

True Tony, but we are in a precarious position now.

If Hart plays 4 more games it will be way to late to save us from the championship.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:07 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:True Tony, but we are in a precarious position now.

If Hart plays 4 more games it will be way to late to save us from the championship.

If we win the next 4 will that be all down to Joe Hart ?

criminalclaret · Post by **criminalclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:09 pm

Obviously a 4 month old thread but is there any noise about a Deeney move in Jan?

Is there any noise at all for that instance?

Probably warrants its own thread mind

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:28 pm

No noise.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:43 pm

joey13 wrote:If we win the next 4 will that be all down to Joe Hart ?

Nice try, but that’s not going to happen , no matter who is in goal

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:30 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:Nice try, but that’s not going to happen , no matter who is in goal

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:28 am

Burnley FC are in talks with a Billionaire Sheikh from the Middle East. They are discussing a Multi Million pound investment to get the club back up the table. Sheikh Anvack has promised to put the freshness back.

SpringHillClaret · Post by **SpringHillClaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:04 am

Might this be a window that sees some of the squad leaving? Nixon has mentioned a Heaton move to Leeds for the rest of the season but I dare say our current table position might have one or two of the squad thinking ....

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:20 am

Fulham, Cardiff and Leicester interested in Liverpool right back Clyne. Nixon mentioned there is now a 4th club interested and looking the most likely proposition... Us?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:37 am

He’d be an excellent signing for us.
He came off the bench yesterday though so I’d be surprised if they let him go.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:40 am

I'd be surprised if we were to get anywhere near Clyne.
But it would be great to think we might at least rival Cardiff.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:48 am

Clyne linked to Palace-link with Roy from England days

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:50 am

We could have attracted a wider choice of players had we pulled our finger out in the Summer. Now it will be very difficult to sign improvements.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:05 am

Blackrod wrote:We could have attracted a wider choice of players had we pulled our finger out in the Summer. Now it will be very difficult to sign improvements.

Absolutely right - we could certainly have considered ourselves a more attractive proposition than the aforementioned Palace, Fulham and maybe even Leicester during the summer. Not any more.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:07 am

Ah, the lure of the Europa League.

That would have counter balanced the above list of paying far more wages than we do.

I keep forgetting that.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:15 am

Well it’s a stronger lure than the bottom 3

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:18 am

Who was in the bottom three in the summer?

Fulham are in London and spent a billionaire owner.

Bit of reality required to who we can and can't compete with, and about the lure of European competition.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:27 am

burnleymik wrote:Fulham, Cardiff and Leicester interested in Liverpool right back Clyne. Nixon mentioned there is now a 4th club interested and looking the most likely proposition... Us?

4th club more likely to be Bournemouth.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:28 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Who was in the bottom three in the summer?

Fulham are in London and spent a billionaire owner.

Bit of reality required to who we can and can't compete with, and about the lure of European competition.

WE are in the bottom 3 NOW!!
In the Summer we were in the Europa League.

That’s the comparison

To think we couldn’t have competed with Fulham 4 months ago is bizarre

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:33 am

You can scoff about the Europa League, but European competition is an attraction for the sort of players we should have been in the market for, particularly foreign ones. We also finished 7th - the best of the rest - that should have been a big marketing statement, but rings pretty hollow now.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:39 am

Scouse -

Whose scoffing?

Absolutely brilliant for us as a club, but counter balancing a billionaire owner who pays daft wages?

Not really I feel

Rooster -

And again, you are completely ignoring the reality of Fulham and their owner with their spending power.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:51 am

I’m not ignoring it. I’m simply saying some players would happily have come to play in the Europa league and get a good wage, rather than get a very good wage and get relegated.

Not every player is like Alexis Sanchez

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:55 am

In terms of spending power we are a mid level championship club at best

Yes the time to spend was in the summer but that ship has sailed now and the next two weeks will show if we have done anything behind the scenes since then

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:57 am

Okay, not every player is.

Vast majority are though

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:03 am

scouseclaret wrote:You can scoff about the Europa League, but European competition is an attraction for the sort of players we should have been in the market for, particularly foreign ones. We also finished 7th - the best of the rest - that should have been a big marketing statement, but rings pretty hollow now.

You really think the attraction of playing in the qualifying stages of the Europa league was going to attract top class talent to Turf Moor?

Leicester struggled to attract players and the could offer the Group stages of the CL.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:03 am

Roosterbooster wrote:WE are in the bottom 3 NOW!!
In the Summer we were in the Europa League.

That’s the comparison

To think we couldn’t have competed with Fulham 4 months ago is bizarre

Clearly not that bizarre given Mawson chose Fulham before us....why do you think that was ?
Didn’t they spend more than £100m on transfers and goodness knows how much in salaries ?
How exactly do you think we can compete with Fulham when they are spending like this ?

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:06 am

Baffling how some people can’t grasp that our position in the summer, in terms of being able to attract better players, was the best we’ve been in for many many a year. Yes it was just the Europa League, but it’s still European competition, and Burnley finished 7th in the richest league in world football. Now we are in the relegation zone looking like a club on its ass with what we are currently serving up.

January is going to be a long month I can tell

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:10 am

TVC15 wrote:Clearly not that bizarre given Mawson chose Fulham before us....why do you think that was ?
Didn’t they spend more than £100m on transfers and goodness knows how much in salaries ?
How exactly do you think we can compete with Fulham when they are spending like this ?

That’s one player. We might struggle to compete now, but we had a strong hand in the summer. Why does everyone assume all players just go where the most money is? Joey Barton didn’t. Players with character want to better themselves. We could have offered that opportunity a few months ago

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:18 am

Roosterbooster wrote:That’s one player. We might struggle to compete now, but we had a strong hand in the summer. Why does everyone assume all players just go where the most money is? Joey Barton didn’t. Players with character want to better themselves. We could have offered that opportunity a few months ago

I know it’s one player but you were talking about us competing with Fulham in the summer when clearly we couldn’t.
Joey Barton was going to sign for West Ham - and would have done but for them pulling the deal. You are a bit naive if you think that a player who earned £75k a week for many years did not come here for money. How do you know any other club were interested at the time ?

These players you talk about “with character” and who would come to a club on a lower salary than they were offered by another club are few and far between. Tbh in this league I would be amazed if there were any.

cblantfanclub · Post by **cblantfanclub** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:44 am

Joe Hart is supposed to be one.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:48 pm

claretandy wrote:4th club more likely to be Bournemouth.

You are correct. Nixon confirmed it.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:52 pm

cblantfanclub wrote:Joe Hart is supposed to be one.

Again was there any other club in our league interested in signing him ? Plus did he not receive a big golden handshake from City to leave ?
Whatever deal we gave Hart am I pretty sure it was the best (or only) offer he had which also meant he could leave City which was his number one objective.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:53 pm

joey13 wrote:

Might just have to reconsider that statement after how we played today.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:57 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:Might just have to reconsider that statement after how we played today.

I must have missed Heats scoring two goals dominating midfield and putting more effort in than against Everton but apart from that I’ll reconsider

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:58 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:Nice try, but that’s not going to happen , no matter who is in goal

1 down 3 to go

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:01 pm

joey13 wrote:1 down 3 to go

Sorry, that’s why I posted I might have to reconsider after our performance today.