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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Walton » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:10 pm

Vydra is 10 times the player Wells is

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by claretspice » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:11 pm

Can't say I know much about Vydra - he's seemed to spend a lot of time in the Championship when we've been in the Premier League, and vice versa. The quote above definitely suggests he's tailor made for the vacancy Dyche appears to feel he has, and i see a few references online to him being quick, as well as quite strongly built, which I must confess I hadn't appreciated.

My biggest doubt about him is that for someone aged only just 26, he's had a hell of a lot of clubs. I know a lot of them have been season loans, but he's been all over the place, and he's been a bit hit and miss. He's had 2 good seasons at Watford, and one at Derby, but the other 3-4 years he's been a regular he's not really pulled up any trees. That suggests either something about his character, or that he's a player who needs a particular set up in which to thrive (which could be ours). And despite a couple of half-opportunities in Serie A and the Premier League, he's only really had success in the Championship.

This could turn out to be a cracking signing - but he's definitely less of a guaranteed quantity than Rodriguez. That could be a good thing - perhaps there's more potential for him to be absolutely brilliant than there is with Rodriguez, whose limitations as well as strengths are well known - but there's a bit more risk about it too.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by claretspice » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:11 pm

Can't say I know much about Vydra - he's seemed to spend a lot of time in the Championship when we've been in the Premier League, and vice versa. The quote above definitely suggests he's tailor made for the vacancy Dyche appears to feel he has, and i see a few references online to him being quick, as well as quite strongly built, which I must confess I hadn't appreciated.

My biggest doubt about him is that for someone aged only just 26, he's had a hell of a lot of clubs. I know a lot of them have been season loans, but he's been all over the place, and he's been a bit hit and miss. He's had 2 good seasons at Watford, and one at Derby, but the other 3-4 years he's been a regular he's not really pulled up any trees. That suggests either something about his character, or that he's a player who needs a particular set up in which to thrive (which could be ours). And despite a couple of half-opportunities in Serie A and the Premier League, he's only really had success in the Championship.

This could turn out to be a cracking signing - but he's definitely less of a guaranteed quantity than Rodriguez. That could be a good thing - perhaps there's more potential for him to be absolutely brilliant than there is with Rodriguez, whose limitations as well as strengths are well known - but there's a bit more risk about it too.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by creepingdeath » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:11 pm

https://youtu.be/iNwmIK9OcqE


Looks shocking in this video

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by watsonsclarets » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:13 pm

I would have gone for either players or Jarrod Bowen.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by joey13 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:14 pm

Why we not looking for players that will actually improve the squad ?
Oh yes finance

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by LaLigaClaret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:14 pm

Could be to cover Wells going out as part of a deal forJay-Rod perhaps ?

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by creepingdeath » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:15 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:https://youtu.be/iNwmIK9OcqE

For people who have not seen him.

Got to love the welcome to Leeds bit.


Nah that videos faked i’d rather believe the experts on here

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:15 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:https://youtu.be/iNwmIK9OcqE

For people who have not seen him.

Got to love the welcome to Leeds bit.
I got bored with that.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:19 pm

joey13 wrote:Why we not looking for players that will actually improve the squad ?
Oh yes finance
He would improve the squad.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by creepingdeath » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:19 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I got bored with that.
Are you our european scout?

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Rick_Muller » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:19 pm

Scored some good goals on the highlights video, but for a no10 far too many passes went astray for my liking

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:24 pm

creepingdeath wrote:Are you our european scout?
No.
So he can turn an average Championship player, how many times do you need to see that.
BTW, it's not necessarily a criticism of the player, just the video.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by watsonsclarets » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:28 pm

boatshed bill wrote:No.
So he can turn an average Championship player, how many times do you need to see that.
BTW, it's not necessarily a criticism of the player, just the video.
The video is pump. But I think he has something different to what we have and runs at players and has that bit of guile. (I have seen him a few times)

Yes he gives it away a bit but he tries things.


Good player who offers something I hope we have bid because for me a number 10 or a deep laying playing playmaker is what we need so badly.(Defour injured)


Yes he needs to be a grafter too but how many runs did Barnes make against Aberdeen without getting the ball not saying this is the lad but we need a bit guile and they tend to cost that bit more and do not always fit into our universal framework.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by andyh » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:29 pm

Scored a few with each foot. Always a plus for someone looking to tuck a chance away... I’d be happy for him to play instead of Hendrick as a no10
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:33 pm

To play for Dyche he will have to graft it’s simple really isn’t it? The players who haven’t put a shift in have all left the club.... Vydra will offer us something different, and personally if his attitude is on par with the rest of the squad then I think Dyche will get the best out of him and hopefully he can continue his good form from last season
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Richardsbfc » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:40 pm

He's a good solid player. Will be a great addition to the squad.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:50 pm

this is all the info i can see about it online

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leed ... s-14998029" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:53 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:https://youtu.be/iNwmIK9OcqE

For people who have not seen him.

Got to love the welcome to Leeds bit.
If you look this video and said he was called Matej Vydra from Valencia then people's opinions may change - no doubt this lad has a lot of ability and can find the net, could be a steal at that money (might not be too :lol: ).
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:01 pm

agreenwood wrote:He did finish top scorer in the Championship last year to be fair. Nahki Wells never came close to that.
I was more comparing the feel and timing of the deal and not particularly the their playing styles/records.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Zesty » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:48 pm

Heard we want Vydra and Jay, same source that said Clucas was off. Must mean Wells/Walters leaving ?
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:49 pm

Fingers crossed...
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:56 pm

If you can finish top scorer in the championship then he will be good for 10 goals in the prem , even I can't trap a bag of cement managed that !

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by KRBFC » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:58 pm

I said last week I'd be excited about Vydra, did extremely well last year, good turn of pace and an eye for a goal, would be very good behind Wood and would offer us more than the static leggy Rodriguez.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by KRBFC » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:01 pm

I believe Dyche managed him before at Watford? any ideas how he performed under Dyche? I know he did well for Watford once Dyche had left but I'm not sure how effective he was for him.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by jedi_master » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:08 pm

I might be wrong but didn’t Vydra join after Dyche had left? He was one of the loans the Pozzo’s (who sacked Dyche) brought in with Zola I think.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:08 pm

I’d sooner have Vydra over Rodriguez.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by cloggerclaret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:10 pm

i would be very happy with this signing if we manage to pull this off

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Selby Claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:11 pm

Simple maths

Vydra > Hendrick

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by RVclaret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:12 pm

This would be a great signing and an excellent fit behind Wood. Hope it comes off.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:31 pm

"Vydra had a groin operation during pre-season and has yet to feature for the Rams."

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:33 pm

Back in full training this week

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:33 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:"Vydra had a groin operation during pre-season and has yet to feature for the Rams."
They have only played one game and like stated earlier they seem to have a system which he doesnt fit into. Plus they know he is going or want him going to raise funds for Lampard so will not risk him anyway.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by keith1879 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:36 pm

Surely the best thing about this is that it represents a step up from taking Leeds' best players to taking the players that they want to employ but can't actually afford to.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Longsider » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:36 pm

agreenwood wrote:Would prefer Jay Rod, I have to admit.
Going to upset a few with this but I honestly think J Rod is an injury relapse waiting to happen and we should move on.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:36 pm

KRBFC wrote:I believe Dyche managed him before at Watford? any ideas how he performed under Dyche? I know he did well for Watford once Dyche had left but I'm not sure how effective he was for him.
Came in initially on loan from Udinese so I would think it was after the Pozzo takeover which therefore was after Dyche.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by mkmel » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:07 am

As well as scoring 21 or 22 goals in 40 appearances last season for Derby he also had 4 assists

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by CFS » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:26 am

Jay rod knows what it takes to get the job done in the prem as for vydra he's exciting.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:41 am

boatshed bill wrote:I got bored with that.
:lol: I made it to around the 3 minute mark! I think it`s the music in those videos...should have played that sh*t at Guantanamo Bay!!! Vydra looks to me (from the 180 seconds I`ve seen of him) to be a centrally-based Gudmundsson type with some speed, strength and clearly an eye for goal. It is worth a punt. You have my permission Burnley FC!

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by IanMcL » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:48 am

Vydra, Crouch and Rodriguez!

We'll be playing 4-6!
Come o you Clarets!

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by DCWat » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:51 am

mkmel wrote:As well as scoring 21 or 22 goals in 40 appearances last season for Derby he also had 4 assists
Looking at that video, he should have had at least double the assists. Some woeful finishing from some of the ones he set up.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:14 am

I` vydra been given a fiver for every spurious link over the summer, I`d be a rich man now...

OR...

Hopefully, if he signs, he can provydra few more goals and assists from the `No.10` position.

I`ll get my coat.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Bullabill » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:29 am

Get him in! I'd love to see the two 'Vee bombers' Vokes and Vydra.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by maidenover » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:28 am

Even allowing for the traditional You Tube production enhancements and selective high points, I'd sign him. He has pace, excellent positional and spacial awareness, good trickery and most importantly, an end product.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by joey13 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:56 am

FactualFrank wrote:He would improve the squad.
We are Premier League

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Firthy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:13 am

Not sure there's anything in this. Nobody's neighbour has mentioned it :)

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:34 am

Looks like someone has hacked joey13's account he isn't normally a whinging clown is he ?

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by joey13 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:58 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Looks like someone has hacked joey13's account he isn't normally a whinging clown is he ?
3 goals in 23 premier League appearances and I’m the clown , well pointed out

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:01 am

Agreed

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by KlyBfc » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:20 am

Not a signing I’d like to see us make. 26, a poor previous record in the premier league, a number 10 who has been suggested doesn’t like to chase around and do the donkey work. I can see his impact (if he has one) being in home games when he have a little more ball or from the bench. But unlike others the loss of Hendrick or a player of his type (athletic, flexibile positionally & hardworking) in our midfield away from home I believe will leave us to being more open and an increased chance of return to the awful away record of 2 years ago.

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