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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by IndigoLake » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:23 am

I'd be happy with this signing. I don't see how people can complain about the potential signing of the championship top scorer (well, there's always someone). Vydra obviously has something about him. He's only 26 and won't turn 27 until the end of the coming season. Also, for those suggesting he's some sort of failure in the Premier League, how many games did he start? What sort of football were West Brom playing? It's too simplistic a view to assume he won't do well for us based on that, just as we can't assume he'll score a shed load of goals based on last season. Keep in mind his PL season with West Brom was a good 3 or 4 years ago and he's obviously improved as a player since then. He'd offer something different and that's what we need.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by mdd2 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:24 am

July 2012 joined Watford on loan from Udinese, so post SD

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Grimsdale » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:23 am

Not sure why people are bagging him about his previous Premier League record - 3 goals and 3 assists from 23 games, of which he only made 7 starts, is pretty good going, especially when you consider he was only 21 at the time.

I think he'd be a great signing.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Goobs » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:28 am

Wouldn't have been my first choice but can see why we would do it if there is any truth in this as we need a creative number 10 IMO and he can certainly fulfill that role.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by alwaysaclaret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:10 am

This could be a fantastic signing imo, he's that busy little player we've needed for ages, knows where the nets are, and great link up player with midfield, yes he needs to improve small details i e-: finishing, and maybe a little stronger in the tackle, but then the midfield are there to do that and play the likes of vydra in, but can also give us so many options and play with any of our forwards, and fingers crossed get d4 back wow, maybe just a slight concern about attitude, but no better manager than sd to sort that, thumbs up from me.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by SGr » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:18 am

Mike Keegan reporting it’s not far off completion.

By accounts from Derby fans, will be seriously good if played in the right position (10), and awful otherwise...
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by mkmel » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:22 am

Who is Mike Keegan?

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by SGr » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:23 am

mkmel wrote:Who is Mike Keegan?
Mail Sport journo. Story seems to be getting around - was the Mirror that first broke it

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by BabylonClaret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:25 am

All looks a bit speculative and vague. Mind you, these are the ones that quite often we sneak in!!

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by alwaysaclaret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:25 am

SGr wrote:Mike Keegan reporting it’s not far off completion.

By accounts from Derby fans, will be seriously good if played in the right position (10), and awful otherwise...
Could well depend on players he's playing with and manager managing hI'm obviously, but all in all this could be great signing imo.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Quicknick » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:28 am

I'll be pleased with this. Only just turned 26, and seemingly the type of player we need.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by SGr » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:31 am

21 goals in 42 games last season, can’t argue really

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:31 am

Needs to be allowed to play his natural game and not converted into yet another workhorse.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by tiger76 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:34 am

I'd take him over rodriguez,younger and cheaper,another lad with a point to prove in the Premier.Gives us that badly needed creativity.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by MyRightFoot » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:08 pm

On "UTC" Facebook page they have a link to a chechz journalist who's saying medical today.. looks a decent player,not seen much of him to be honest!

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:11 pm

MyRightFoot wrote:On "UTC" Facebook page they have a link to a chechz journalist who's saying medical today.. looks a decent player,not seen much of him to be honest!
What a curious way to spell Czech.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by NRC » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:14 pm

Watching that YouTube video....... we don’t have a single player that does that. He IS what poor Jeff is being forced to be, without success. He’s JBG but in a central position. Would be happy with this.

Now if I was Devil’s Advocate..... remind anyone of Besart Berisha?

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:14 pm

https://twitter.com/KHaring75" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The above Czech football journalist
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by burnleymik » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:16 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:What a curious way to spell Czech.
Does it really matter?

He added to the thread.

Judging by what others have said, this sounds quite exciting.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:17 pm

shame if we are signing this guy over jay given we are only 2m off their asking price. He is desperate to come back.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by burnleymik » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:17 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:https://twitter.com/KHaring75

The above Czech football journalist

Haha, he is on the "ginger Mourinho" train regarding Dyche :D

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:19 pm

burnleymik wrote:Does it really matter?

He added to the thread.

Judging by what others have said, this sounds quite exciting.
Just an observation. It looked harder to spell it his way. No need to get your panties wet.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by jtv » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:21 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:shame if we are signing this guy over jay given we are only 2m off their asking price. He is desperate to come back.
Perhaps we have already offered WBA more than what Dyche feels the player is worth.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by dsr » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:24 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:shame if we are signing this guy over jay given we are only 2m off their asking price. He is desperate to come back.
That I doubt. He could have come back last year, but West Brom offered more money - clearly he wasn't desperate then.

We may be only £2m off WBA's asking price, but probably about £5m over our valuation. There must come a time when the club decides he isn't worth the premium, especially if other valid options are available.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by DuckworthsEA » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:25 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:shame if we are signing this guy over jay given we are only 2m off their asking price. He is desperate to come back.
He should hand in a transfer request then. Paying more than what WBA payed for him after a season of relegation is madness. How has his value increased so much?

I hope we sign him I really do, perfect for us but stand by the club for not overpaying.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:28 pm

It’ll be nice to complete this window with the players we need, plus the added bonus of leaving WBA with two unsettled Key Players.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:38 pm

Both Clucas and Rodriguez had the opportunity to join us last summer but decided to go elsewhere, presumably for a bigger wage which is their prerogative.

I’m certainly not splitting any hairs about not getting either of them.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:22 pm

joey13 wrote:3 goals in 23 premier League appearances and I’m the clown , well pointed out
5 years ago when he was 21 year old and I'm almost sure the majority of those appearances were as a sub, if I remember correctly he barely got a sniff at WBA.

EDIT: Grimsdale on hand to back me up with facts, only 7 of those games at WBA were starts. Get him signed!!
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:24 pm

Still in negotiations with Jay, thankfully.
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by claretspice » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:29 pm

I watched some of those clips last night and I must say he reminded me a little bit of Ings in the way he played. Clearly a bit quicker and more dynamic than I'd appreciated.

In terms of his past record at Premier League level - and indeed his inconsistency generally - that's definitely a concern, as is the fact that neither Watford nor Udinese gave him a chance in the Premier League or Serie A when they had the chance to do so. I seem to recall Watford signed Ighalo who effectively replaced him, whereas my guess is that at the time, West Brom tended to play 1 up top. It would appear that Vydra is not a lone striker so that may have limited his opportunity (although given he looks fairly mobile, its a bit weird he appears to be so wedded to playing as a second striker - you'd think that, like Barnes, Ings and the pre-injury Rodriguez, he'd be comfortable enough slotting in on the wing).

All of which is speculation. If he signs, then Dyche's record at the top end of the market will more than give him credit in the bank to presume that this is a signing which will fit in nicely with our group of players.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:29 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:Both Clucas and Rodriguez had the opportunity to join us last summer but decided to go elsewhere, presumably for a bigger wage which is their prerogative.

I’m certainly not splitting any hairs about not getting either of them.
Yeah they had their chance, Jay chose to sign for WBA over his hometown club.

''ONE OF OUR OWN'' they say :lol:
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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:34 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah they had their chance, Jay chose to sign for WBA over his hometown club.

''ONE OF OUR OWN'' they say :lol:
I'm sure you'd take the same job somewhere else for less money too.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:37 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:I'm sure you'd take the same job somewhere else for less money too.
Look what Ben Gibson did, stuck with Boro for a long long time even after relegation.

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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:39 pm

He stuck with them for 1 season!!

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by KRBFC » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:46 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:He stuck with them for 1 season!!
Been at Boro for 14 years

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:49 pm

KRBFC wrote:Been at Boro for 14 years
Whats your point?

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Longsider » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:14 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Still in negotiations with Jay, thankfully.
More info needed.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:20 pm

See if Jay Rod in West Brom squad tonight.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:28 pm

looks like Derby have won the race for Waghorn from Ipswich - fair chance now that Vydra could be heading our way

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Cubanclaret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:32 pm

Vydra for Wells straight swap - definitely happy with that!

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by The Enclosure » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:33 pm

Yep...medicals later today

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:33 pm

Wells + Walters +3 million would be fair

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:34 pm

The Enclosure wrote:Yep...medicals later today

Source?

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by otto1959 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:36 pm

On Sky news now.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by simonclaret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:37 pm

BURNLEY & DERBY IN VYDRA-WELLS SWAP TALKS

Burnley and Derby are in talks over a possible deal that will see the Clarets sign Matej Vydra and Nahki Wells join the Rams the other way, according to Sky sources.

We understand both players are set to do medicals at their respective potential new clubs later on Tuesday.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:39 pm

Cubanclaret wrote:Vydra for Wells straight swap - definitely happy with that!
Is it a straight swap? Or is it a deal which includes a swap? A straight swap would represent unbelievable business as imo its more likely to be cash plus wells.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by RingoMcCartney » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:51 pm

Be well happy with this.

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by RingoMcCartney » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:54 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Wells + Walters +3 million would be fair
If it's wells on his own then + 3 million is right

But Wells plus Walters would mean we'd have to increase the cash to 6 mill to get shut, to be fair! ;)

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:54 pm

haha :)

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Re: Matej Vydra

Post by ian » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:45 pm

This is turning into swaps. Got Got Need.
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