İstanbul Başakşehir v Burnley - Player Ratings

[ClaretTony]

Please leave ratings for all players who have played 20 mins or more.

Scoring is from 3 to 10 as follows:

10 - Out of this World
9 - Excellent
8 - Very Good
7 - Good
6 - Average
5 - Below Par
4 - Poor
3 - Abysmal

[piston broke]

Do you have to have attended? seeing as there were so few heroes who travelled.

[what_no_pies]

From the 'telly'

Hart 6
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 6
Mee 7
Taylor 5
Cork 6
Westwood 5
Hendrick 5
Walters 4
Gudmundsson 5
Barnes 5

But what a great result despite the below average performance!

[ClaretTony]

Do you have to have attended? seeing as there were so few heroes who travelled.

Never have had to for player ratings, just rate the ref.

[Vegas Claret]

2 different performances

offensively
Hart 3
Bardsley 3
Tarkowski 3
Mee 3
Taylor 3
Cork 3
Westwood 5
Hendrick 5
Walters 4
Gudmundsson 5
Barnes 4
Vokes 5
Lennon 4

Defensively
Hart 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 6
Cork 6
Westwood 6
Hendrick 6
Walters 6
Gudmundsson 6
Barnes 5
Vokes 5
Lennon 4

so all together

Hart 6
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 6
Mee 7
Taylor 5
Cork 6
Westwood 5
Hendrick 5
Walters 5
Gudmundsson 5
Barnes 5
Lennon 4

Our lack of pace is astounding

[ClaretTony]

Hart 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Taylor 7
Walters 7
Westwood 6
Cork 6
JBG 6
Hendrick 7
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

[KippaxFifaHD]

From a poor live stream:
Hart - 6 - didn’t have much to do
Bardsley - 7 - Looked solid against a quick, tricky winger
Tark - 6 - Didn’t do much that I can remember
Mee - 8 (MOTM) - Got in the way of everything
Taylor - 6.5 - Caught out of position a few times but looked good on the ball
Walters - 7 - Worked hard defensively and put himself about a bit further forward at times
Cork - 5.5 - Worked hard but struggled against better technical players
Westwood - 5 - See Cork
Hendrick - 5.5 - Didn’t get on the ball much tonight but worked hard defensively
Gudmundsson - 5 - Didn’t ever get into the game
Barnes - 5 - See Gudmundsson

Vokes - 6 - Did okay when he came on, won high balls and challenged well
Lennon - 5 - Can’t remember him touching the ball

[ClaretTony]

From a poor live stream:
Hart - 6 - didn’t have much to do
Bardsley - 7 - Looked solid against a quick, tricky winger
Tark - 6 - Didn’t do much that I can remember
Mee - 8 (MOTM) - Got in the way of everything
Taylor - 6.5 - Caught out of position a few times but looked good on the ball
Walters - 7 - Worked hard defensively and put himself about a bit further forward at times
Cork - 5.5 - Worked hard but struggled against better technical players
Westwood - 5 - See Cork
Hendrick - 5.5 - Didn’t get on the ball much tonight but worked hard defensively
Gudmundsson - 5 - Didn’t ever get into the game
Barnes - 5 - See Gudmundsson

Vokes - 6 - Did okay when he came on, won high balls and challenged well
Lennon - 5 - Can’t remember him touching the ball

Ratings need to whole numbers to be included

[bfc-sparta]

Hendrick ....poo
Walters ....poo.
hendrick as no 10 doesn't work . Just play 10 men on pitch.
Hendrik would of been better out left jbg right ans start vokes n barnes up front

[Godalmingclaret]

Hart 6
Bardsley 6
Talks 7
Mee 7
Taylor 6
Cork 6
Westwood 5
Guðmundsson 5
Walters 6
Hendrick 5
Barnes 5

Not the best performance going forward but will settle for result.

[Right_winger]

Hart 7 some smart saves and good kicking. Good debut
Bardsley 7 good positioning and made some vital blocks
Tarkowski 7 good solid game
Mee 8 very good defensive performance
Taylor 7 our best attacker tonight
Cork 6 ticking over
Westwood 5 looked nervous
Hendrick 6 decent game got himself about
Walters 4 produced jack ****
Gudmundsson 5 not great
Barnes 5 isolated and was swarmed by their defence
Vokes 5 not much going for him tonight
Lennon 4 see Walters

[careyclaret]

Pretty awful performance with no creativity.

Hart. 7. Did what he had to do
Bardsley. 6. Somewhat agricultural. No finesse.
Mee.7.mom. A rock
Takes. 7. Read the game well. Good decision making.
Taylor. 5. Really struggled positionally
JBG. 5. Largely anonymous.
Cork. 6. Mainly for effort rather than effectiveness
Westwood. 5. Didn't put his mark on the game
Hendrick.5. See Westwood
Walter. 5. See JBG
Barnes. 4. Didn't see any useful contribution
Vokes. 4. See Barnes

[Goddy]

Hart 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8 (MOM)
Mee 8
Taylor 7
Walters 7
Westwood 6
Cork 6
JBG 6
Hendrick 6
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

[Barry_Chuckle]

Hart 7
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 7
Taylor 6
Walters 6
Westwood 5
Cork 6
JBG 6
Hendrick 6
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

[KippaxFifaHD]

Ratings need to whole numbers to be included

Taylor - 6
Cork - 5
Hendrick - 5

[NL Claret]

Excellent European away from home performance, thought in the main we nullified the game well. Walters and Bardsley's experience contributed well to this.

[willsclarets]

Absolutely woeful to watch, and to anyone who essentially paid £500+ to watch that game I salute you. I would've taken 0-0 before the game however, and it gives us a great chance to progress next week. Really would love to see Defour play a game in Europe (or any game for that matter), his composure would be vital, when at times we've given possession away cheaply tonight. And it really was at a premium. Collectively I thought we looked unsure and sat a tad too deep. Not suprising I suppose, since this is the first game of its ilk we've played. But we're better than that, and we'll need to be.

Hart 6 - Looked composed and made a couple of good saves
Bardsley 5 - Did fine going backwards but a tad wasteful with the ball sometimes
Tarksowski - 6 - Solid enough and a few nice touches
Mee - 7 - Did what he does best, get a foot (or any part of his body) in the way at the vital moment. MOM
Taylor - 5 - Thought positionally he was a little off in the first half and had some trouble 1 v 1, but I don't think Gudmundsson supported him as much as Walters did on the other side
Cork - 6 - Lots of energy and graft, he just needs a cooler head sometimes and loses the ball with options open
Westwood - 5 - He was a little ominous in the middle of the park for me, for someone who does have the quality to keep the ball in that type of game we needed a bit more of him
Hendrick - 5 - Again wasteful with the ball at times and picked the wrong option. Looks a little short on confidence, but the endeavour is there and did his part without the ball
Walters - 6 - Already defended him on other threads, and I'm sure I'm going to be annoyed at some inevitable 4's on here. He was clearly asked to do a job tonight, which was to not leave Bardsley isolated. He did, perfectly well. He wasn't a threat going forward, but no one really was. I'm not saying he was dynamite, but he doesn't deserve undue criticism for that performance.
Gudmunsson - 5 - Did ok, but as stated above I thought he could've helped out Taylor a bit more.
Barnes - 5 - Feeding off scraps, hard to criticise or mark him up really.

[MDWat]

Hart 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Taylor 7
JBG 6
Cork 6
Hendrick 6
Westwood 6
Walters 6
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

[Bangers&Mash]

Hart 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Taylor 7
Walters 7
Westwood 6
Cork 6
JBG 6
Hendrick 7
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

Never thought I'd find myself agreeing with you Tony but your ratings here are spot on. So sad to see that during such positive times we still have boo-boys. Bardsley, Walters and Hendrick all played well enough yet they're still getting the low ratings.

[IanMcL]

Hart 6
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Taylor 6
Walters 6
Westwood 5
Cork 6
JBG 5
Hendrick 6
Barnes 5

Vokes 5

Not much up front. Defensively on form.
Solid away performance in new surroundings.

[Bangers&Mash]

offensively
Hart 3

Yeah, you're right. Hart's crossing was appalling and he never seemed to make the right run in the box.

Jesus wept! This board is odder than normal tonight

[piston broke]

Hart.......7
Bardsley..6
Tarks......7 mom
Mee.......7
Taylor.....6 needs to find a right foot. Cut inside a couple of times and had no angle to use his left and looked lost.

Walters...6
Westwood.6
Cork.......6
JBG........6
Hendrick..6
Barnes.....5

Vokes.......5

[FCBurnley]

We were there to get a result.......not to entertain.......0-0 was just fine

Hart 7 Nowt to do
Bardsley 7 decent
Mee 6
Tarks 8 Very good. MOM
Taylor 6 got skinned a few times but looked ok when he got forward
Walters 4 Lost possession too easily
Westwood 6 Noy at his best
Cork 7 Again not at his best but great effort
JBG 5 Thought he was poor tonight. Looked tired
Hendrick 6
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

[claretspice]

Hart - 7 - solid debut with one excellent save.

Bardsley - 7 - snuffed out the threat down his side effectively.

Taylor- 6 - struggled at times but stuck at it and generally hung on. Showed an occasional threat going forwards.

Tarkowski - 8 - rock solid on a night where he was tested plenty.

Mee- 8 - got in his blocks and scrapped his way through - not with the finesse of Tarks but with plenty of quality nonetheless.

Cork - 6 - solid screening performance but needed to use the ball more intelligently on occasions.

Westwood- 5 - like Cork but less effective and more wasteful.

Hendrick - 6 - did his defensive job but given precious little opportunity to get into the game going forwards.

Walters - 6 - fell over too much but stuck at it and did ok.

JBG - 5 - ineffective going forwards and didnt track back as effectively as he usually does.

Barnes - 6 - kept going, evenif it was a tough gig for him at times.

Vokes - 5 - struggled to get a kick if we're honest.


We wont go far in Europe if we cant show more composure on the ball, especially in midfield. We rarely gave ourselves a chance to build an attack, and the way we wasted two well placed free kicks in injury time was indicative of that.

On the other hand; we stuck at the task and rode out an awful lot of pressure without really allowing more than one or two clear sights of goal, which is an achievement in itself. We'd have all taken 0-0 before kick off and if we can a player or two back available before the next leg we've got an even money chance if progressing.

[Bangers&Mash]

did he contribute to our awful offensive performance ? No. Do I blame him for it ? No. Did he play so has to be given a score ? Yes. Did I do that ? Yes

Must be past your bedtime

The idea is to give an overall rating, not rate every attribute.

Rating a goalkeepers offensive performance is just odd. Even more so when you'd knock marks off his solid goalkeeping performance because of it

[Vegas Claret]

The idea is to give an overall rating, not rate every attribute.

Rating a goalkeepers offensive performance is just odd. Even more so when you'd knock marks off his solid goalkeeping performance because of it

I gave them an overall mark, he made two bog standard saves I would expect any of our keepers to make - I gave him a 6 overall. Neither keeper had anything of note to do.

[andyh]

Hart 7
Bardsley 5
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8 MoM
Taylor 6
Walters 4
Westwood 5
Cork 5
JBG 5
Hendrick 4
Barnes 5

Vokes 5

Looked very unbalanced all over without letting them in. Hopefully some players back for Sunday and the return leg.

[PhiladelphiaChris]

Hart 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Taylor 6
Walters 6
Westwood 6
Cork 7
JBG 6
Hendrick 6
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

[Belial]

From a stream

Hart 7
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 8
Taylor 7
Walters 5
Westwood 6
Cork 6
JBG 6
Hendrick 5
Barnes 5

Vokes 5

Don't know if we set up to defend only, but going forward we were very devoid of creativity. Midfield also seemed missing half the game. That said, defensively we looked our usual solid selves. Well done to those who went

[Burnley Ace]

0-0 in Turkey in August- what are people expecting?!

[careyclaret]

Never thought I'd find myself agreeing with you Tony but your ratings here are spot on. So sad to see that during such positive times we still have boo-boys. Bardsley, Walters and Hendrick all played well enough yet they're still getting the low ratings.

Please don't call people who gave a lower rating than you "boo boys." I have supported the clarets for 50 years and never booed a player and I never will. I didn't think we played that well today and were overwhelmed in midfield. You had a different view which was more positive but I am not calling you a name because of that.

[Cubanclaret]

Hart 7
Bardsley 7
Mee 9*
Tarkowski 8
Taylor 7
Hendrick 7
Gudmundsson 6
Westwood 6
Cork 7
Barnes 7
Walters 7
—
Vokes 6
Lennon 6

[HieronymousBoschHobs]

Hart 7
Bardsley 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Taylor 6
Walters 6
Westwood 6
Cork 6
JBG 7
Hendrick 6
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

Think we went for a draw and got one, awful game but mission accomplished.

[nil_desperandum]

It seems strange that anyone can score Bardsley 5 (i.e. below par) when we kept a clean sheet in Istanbul against a team who have scored in 31 of their last 33 home matches, and after a performance in which he virtually nullified their left winger.

[edwardianclaret]

Hart 6
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Taylor 7
Walters 7
Westwood 7
Cork 7
JBG 6
Hendrick 7
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

[Bangers&Mash]

Please don't call people who gave a lower rating than you "boo boys." I have supported the clarets for 50 years and never booed a player and I never will. I didn't think we played that well today and were overwhelmed in midfield. You had a different view which was more positive but I am not calling you a name because of that.

A boo-boy doesn't have to literally boo. A boo-boy is someone that actively seeks reasons to back up their own bias. Walters could have scored a hat trick tonight and still not rated above 5 with some posters on here.

[Rick_Muller]

Our lack of pace is astounding

Just want to highlight that the temperature and humidity out there was high, recently with the hot weather we’ve experienced I’ve found it difficult at times to walk without struggling - so if they had little pace tonight I think it’s understandable.

Hart 7 - couple of good saves, kept us in the tie
Bardsley 7 - solid
Tarkowski 8 - usual high standard
Mee 8 - MoM for me, did his stuff well
Taylor 7 - attacked well on occasion, defended resolutely
Walters 7 - he plays so well without the ball, some on this board don’t understand that
Westwood 6 - not great tonight, but was up against technically gifted players
Cork 6 - again, as with Westwood not great
JBG 6 - looked unwell at times, the iceman didn’t like the heat I think
Hendrick 6 - didn’t have a good game, but chased and harried well
Barnes 6 - typical Barnes irritating them

Vokes 6 - quite ineffective tonight, but we were never on the front foot

[bfcjg]

Hart 8 solid good distribution.
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 9 England international performance
Mee 7
Taylor 7
JBG 6
Cork 7
Hendrick 6
Westwood 7
Walters 6
Barnes 6

Vokes 6

[bfcmik]

Hart 7 Did what he had to.
Bardsley 7 Solid enough, very basic but effective against a really good technical winger
Tarkowski 7 Didn't shine but effective
Mee 8 Seemed to get in front of everything
Taylor 7 Struggled in the 1st half but really solid in the 2nd half
Walters 6 Did what he was asked to do
Westwood 5 Struggled to get into the game
Cork 5 Ran around a lot but largely ineffective
JBG 5 Forgot he was playing for most of the hour he was on the pitch
Hendrick 6 Ran around a lot but spent most of his time trying to support midfield rather than Barnes
Barnes 5 Don't think he got a decent pass all night.

Vokes 5 See Barnes
Lennon See JBG

[Vegas Claret]

Just want to highlight that the temperature and humidity out there was high, recently with the hot weather we’ve experienced I’ve found it difficult at times to walk without struggling - so if they had little pace tonight I think it’s understandable.

Hart 7 - couple of good saves, kept us in the tie
Bardsley 7 - solid
Tarkowski 8 - usual high standard
Mee 8 - MoM for me, did his stuff well
Taylor 7 - attacked well on occasion, defended resolutely
Walters 7 - he plays so well without the ball, some on this board don’t understand that
Westwood 6 - not great tonight, but was up against technically gifted players
Cork 6 - again, as with Westwood not great
JBG 6 - looked unwell at times, the iceman didn’t like the heat I think
Hendrick 6 - didn’t have a good game, but chased and harried well
Barnes 6 - typical Barnes irritating them

Vokes 6 - quite ineffective tonight, but we were never on the front foot

To be fair Rick, even on a cold day in December we only have Lennon who has real pace !

[strayclaret]

Via YouTube on my iPad, via some gizmo stuck in the back of my telly, my daughter bought my wife.
Hart 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Taylor 7
Walters 6
Westwood 6
Cork 7
JBG 6
Hendrick 6
Barnes 6

Vokes 6
Defensively good, not a lot going forward, but overall an excellent result. Full marks to our fans.

[KRBFC]

Hart - 8 not a foot wrong
Bardsley 8 very good defensively
Mee 9 MOM excellent
Tark 8 great performance
Taylor 8 very good apart from when he lost the ball high up, recovered quickly.
Walters 4 - very poor, 1 awful cross and kept falling over his own feet and giving the ball away. Rusty or just not good? who knows
Westwood 6 - ok
Cork 6 - ok
JBG 4 - ineffective apart from 1 decent effort
Hendrick 5 - below par, difficult role for him.
Barnes 5 - impossible to score either striker with zero service at all.


Defensively good against an average side playing their first competitive game of the season, I expected us to be sharper and get at them for an important away goal. Not a bad result but 1 away goal next week could really leave us in the s**t.

[KRBFC]

It seems strange that anyone can score Bardsley 5 (i.e. below par) when we kept a clean sheet in Istanbul against a team who have scored in 31 of their last 33 home matches, and after a performance in which he virtually nullified their left winger.

Agreed, I'm not Bardsley's biggest fan but defensively tonight he was superb.

[Buxtonclaret]

Hart 7
Bardsley 6
Tarks 7
Mee 8 **
Taylor 7
Walters 6
Westwood 6
Cork 6
JBG 7
Hendrick 6
Barnes 6

Sam 6

[Nonayforever]

From the match.

We set out with a weakened team and played for a 0 - 0

With that in mind we were successful.

Hart 8 ( doesn't even know his teammates names yet )
Bardsley 7
Tarks. 8
Mee. 8
Taylor. 7
Walters 6
Cork 6
Westwood 6
JBG. 6
Hendrick 7
Barnes 7

Vokes. 7

[Blackrod]

Never thought I'd find myself agreeing with you Tony but your ratings here are spot on. So sad to see that during such positive times we still have boo-boys. Bardsley, Walters and Hendrick all played well enough yet they're still getting the low ratings.

'Boo boys' It's only a ratings thread !

[Blackrod]

Hart 7 not much to do but did what he had too
Bardsley 6 Distribution poor though
Tarkowski 7
Mee 8 mom excellent
Taylor 6
JBG 5
Cork 6
Westwood 5
Walters 5 not great
Hendrick 5
Barnes 5

Vokes 5

Defended very well as a unit but devoid of any creativity or quality going forward. An acceptable result but awful spectacle.

[CoolClaret]

Hart 7
Bardsley 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 8
Taylor 7
JBG 6
Cork 6
Hendrick 6
Westwood 6
Walters 6
Barnes 5

Vokes 5

[Milltown1882]

Hart 7 - this man will be securely Burnley’s number one and England’s number one by the end of the season
Bardsley 6 - what you see is what you get
Tarkowski 8 - nervy start but wow did he grow into it
Mee 9 - if he played alongside Ben Mee he would be England captain on 100 caps by now
Taylor 6 - nervy first half JBG left him far too exposed at times
Cork 6 - cheap in possession at times but difficult to move forward when we went for a 0-0
Westwood 6 - as cork
Guðmundsson 5 - looked off the pace, don’t know if its World Cup or injury but not the usual JBG
Walters 6 - poor first half but tracking back and his defensive duties in the second half are a big part of why we’re still in this tie
Hendrick 5 - absolutely anonymous
Barnes 5 - didn’t have much to feed off, no support but will be a different story next week

Overall a great result, bring them back to the Turf and it will be a totally different scenario. Dyche masterminded tonight to get a clean sheet and stay in the tie and it’s testament to how much he is growing as a manager every season. Very confident for next Thursday.

[dermotdermot]

From a poor live stream:
Hart - 6 - didn’t have much to do
Bardsley - 7 - Looked solid against a quick, tricky winger
Tark - 6 - Didn’t do much that I can remember
Mee - 8 (MOTM) - Got in the way of everything
Taylor - 6.5 - Caught out of position a few times but looked good on the ball
Walters - 7 - Worked hard defensively and put himself about a bit further forward at times
Cork - 5.5 - Worked hard but struggled against better technical players
Westwood - 5 - See Cork
Hendrick - 5.5 - Didn’t get on the ball much tonight but worked hard defensively
Gudmundsson - 5 - Didn’t ever get into the game
Barnes - 5 - See Gudmundsson

Vokes - 6 - Did okay when he came on, won high balls and challenged well
Lennon - 5 - Can’t remember him touching the ball

It was free to watch on YouTube. Perfect picture.