He bemoaned Burnley’s ‘long ball’ tactics and there was even a suggestion that the Clarets were happy to give the ball away to get back in their shape.

He's not wrong

We had a 5 minute spell of knocking it about and it just looked like a mistake would come.

He needs to understand that you can only beat what is put in front of you, and he failed to do that

I bemoaned his scruffy dress code....looked like a tramp...a miserable slouching drug-dealing pimp actuctually.

Our chap looked a million dollars in comparison.

He must be p1ssed off that his Team didn’t score in the Home Leg.

No flying f's given what he thinks about our tactics or how strong our squad was....cockwomble

We're Burnley, not Barcelona

He was unable to combat it and is therefore bitter. Jog on Fella

Dejavu

He’s in for a shock on Thursday I think.

Sounds like many Premier managers over the past 2 seasons,the onus was on his team to break us down they couldn't do that.

pushpinpussy wrote:He bemoaned Burnley’s ‘long ball’ tactics and there was even a suggestion that the Clarets were happy to give the ball away to get back in their shape.

Our ' success' last night was based on what we did without the ball rather than with it, of that there's no doubt. When we had a free kick on the left wing near the end of the game I fully expected the ball to be worked back to Hart so that we could regain our shape and eat up a few more precious seconds. Last thing we wanted then was being caught out by a counter-attack.

Wait well he comes up against the same tactic at ours - he won't know what the hell to do as the away team Ha ha!
'What are these English dogs playing at, we are supposed to be the away team, why are they inviting us to attack them, it must be a sneaky English pig trick.'
Up pops Wandering Walter (for tis he) to pop in the winner on the counter.
Cue furious Turkish fans (all 12 of them) to start a riot (of sorts) out of sheer frustration at the Burnley way.
Happy days and we're all off to Athens (assuming the Swiss don't overturn a 4-0 deficit).

tiger76 wrote:Sounds like many Premier managers over the past 2 seasons,the onus was on his team to break us down they couldn't do that.

But a lot of those Premier League managers are now beginning to praise us rather than whinge about it. One of the whingers is up against us in two days time.

no one likes us, we dont care

Would he like some quality claret to help swill those sour grapes down?

Good result. Dire viewing.

his talk after game is nothing special also not a criticism. Analyzing the game tactically, what Abdullah Avci does after any game. Sadly he is correct on his comments most of the time. Otherwise noone could explain how his cheap team finished the league over Besiktas last season...

Did he not research us before?

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Did he not research us before?

Obviously he did - how else would one of their big tactics be to put balls into the box as we struggle to head them away ..............

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Did he not research us before?

that's what he does best.

but i can't see any shocked or moaning words in Avci's speech. He always tells his analyzes after games, like a robot, no emotion.

We did what we needed to do. I have no complaints about the way we played.

vinrogue wrote:No flying f's given what he thinks about our tactics or how strong our squad was....cockwomble

since when has the term "cockwomble" been in vogue?

He's not wrong. How can anyone take offence at that. We must be very frustrating to play against but if it gets us points or through this competition I can put up with it.

Maybe when we've cornered the market of the worlds best players and still play out a nil nil draw.......

Burnley played a very smart game. I am a Besiktas fan. Last year we qualified from Champions League group without losing. But we lost against Basaksehir )

All the trick about Basaksehir starts when you attack them...

Lord Beamish wrote:He must be p1ssed off that his Team didn’t score in the Home Leg.

Away goals matter...it's 0..0 we didn't get one.

I thought they missed Adebayor badly last night. They had so much ball around our box, if he was playing we would have been in deep trouble. I’m still pessimistic about next week, our chance would be if can somehow nullify Visca.

I Actually thought they were pretty physical. They looked like they could play a bit, but it’s a
Long time since I’ve seen use dominated in the air like we were last night. They look vulnerable at the back though if we can put them under any sort of sustained pressure.

I read a lot of comments on BBC's HYS and so many people have blind digs at Burnley. Last night we were described as 'turgid' and 'a regular switch off during MoTD'. It used to rile me but it doesn't now. These experts and purists very rarely see football outside of Manchester or Liverpool and the like. In fact a good dose of what the beautiful game can be like, and of course, is for so many people up and down the country, would do them good.

There are those who rally round with defiant and defending comments, but I'm tired of explaining that we are evolving. Our game is changing. We are a work in progress and so many of the nay-sayers would swap places with us in a heartbeat.

Its a results based business. And we get results, even when down to the bare bones. ******** to them.

mrgomez wrote:........All the trick about Basaksehir starts when you attack them...

Do you mean that they are weak defensively, or that they prefer to defend so that they can counter attack?

jtv wrote:Do you mean that they are weak defensively, or that they prefer to defend so that they can counter attack?

I'd guess the latter....

Zom Zom wrote:I read a lot of comments on BBC's HYS and so many people have blind digs at Burnley. Last night we were described as 'turgid' and 'a regular switch off during MoTD'. It used to rile me but it doesn't now. These experts and purists very rarely see football outside of Manchester or Liverpool and the like. In fact a good dose of what the beautiful game can be like, and of course, is for so many people up and down the country, would do them good.

There are those who rally round with defiant and defending comments, but I'm tired of explaining that we are evolving. Our game is changing. We are a work in progress and so many of the nay-sayers would swap places with us in a heartbeat.

Its a results based business. And we get results, even when down to the bare bones. ******** to them.

Yes work in progress
Our defence isn't though. It works so well when we are under the cosh. Midfield is and isn't there yet and it's a pity we didn't get a midfielder in during the window. Still it served us well last time out. Tougher this time being in this competition.

jtv wrote:Do you mean that they are weak defensively, or that they prefer to defend so that they can counter attack?

i mean if they catch you in a "defence did not take position yet" stance, they dont show mercy. they do good job at counter attacks.

So...attacking teams like Besiktas are easier for them. Last night's Burnley was a nightmare for them

That's the key to Burnleys success...frustrating teams.so like you we also sit back and hit the good teams on the counter and sit on the 1..0

mrgomez ----that was the impression I got when watching last night. I think that they will be very dangerous on the counter attack when we play them at the Turf, however, that will depend just how we set up to play. It will be an interesting tactical battle, however, probably not very entertaining, which I can live with. There is much more to football than scoring a boat load of goals.

tim_noone wrote:That's the key to Burnleys success...frustrating teams.so like you we also sit back and hit the good teams on the counter and sit on the 1..0

i would not complain since it seems to work

i would bet for another draw and extra time / penalties for the next game.

other then this who scores first will probably qualify

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:mrgomez ----that was the impression I got when watching last night. I think that they will be very dangerous on the counter attack when we play them at the Turf, however, that will depend just how we set up to play. It will be an interesting tactical battle, however, probably not very entertaining, which I can live with. There is much more to football than scoring a boat load of goals.

agree

I think with the players we had out, our tactics were spot on. We couldn't really have played any other way.

well whatever he thinks, his team are in for a defeat at the turf, he should be sacked if he couldnt counter our style.

Whatever he thinks, his team scored Safir !!

brexit wrote:since when has the term "cockwomble" been in vogue?

Its such an awful cringy term but theres a fair few posters on here who seem to like to use it for some strange reason. I think they must be a right set of cockwombles!!

On a side note does this mean we can now add Basaksehir to our list of mock rivals because their managers hasn't blown smoke up our arses?

Devils_Advocate wrote:Its such an awful cringy term but theres a fair few posters on here who seem to like to use it for some strange reason. I think they must be a right set of cockwombles!!

Stop being such a twatwaffle...

Abdullah Avci is a prick

Rick_Muller wrote:Stop being such a twatwaffle...

I much prefer twatwaffle to cockwomble.

I love the classic lines Premier League managers throw at us "WE KNOW HOW BURNLEY PLAY".

Shame most can not counteract it leading them to either not beat us or get beat....

I think the knockers would do well to remember that Italy's (national team and clubs) most successful time over quite a long period was playing exactly the same way. Defences dominated and many weeks in Serie A saw no goals at all (a tad boring I'll admit) but it was very efficient and difficult to play against. If you went a goal down to Italy or an Italian club you might as well go home because that was pretty much it.
What annoys me is the purist, the people who think that everyone should play like Barcelona without having the players to do it. Football is about winning (or not losing as the case may be) and the players you have and injuries dictate that you can't always play pretty football. I worked years ago with an Arsenal fan who around that time were hugely successful but not very inspiring to watch a lot of the time and the guy used to say quite honestly 'I love my boring Arsenal'. And why not. Dyche is the man and he can play any bloody system he likes for me as long as we keep moving in the same direction (or even standing still for a while).

Do you remember the crap American comedy Everybody Loves Raymond?

He looks like Raymonds bro!


I would post a picture but I can't

mrgomez wrote:Burnley played a very smart game. I am a Besiktas fan. Last year we qualified from Champions League group without losing. But we lost against Basaksehir )

All the trick about Basaksehir starts when you attack them...

Just reminding people that Mr. Gomez is a Besiktas fan rather than a Basaksehir fan so is probably wanting Burnley to win or might even be a neutral.

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Just reminding people that Mr. Gomez is a Besiktas fan rather than a Basaksehir fan so is probably wanting Burnley to win or might even be a neutral.

Hate Basaksehir. Eliminate and feck them please

mrgomez wrote:Hate Basaksehir. Eliminate and feck them please

Not a disinterested neutral observer then?