Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:47 pm

Wolves have set themselves the ambitious goal of winning the Premier League within seven years.

Fosun International, the group that owns the club, has given its management team a number of demanding internal targets including a top-ten finish this season, their first in the top flight since 2012, before qualifying for the Champions League in subsequent seasons and the ultimate ambition of winning the title in the next seven years.
Nuno Espírito Santo, the head coach, has been backed in the transfer market with £70 million spent on new signings that means he will be under pressure to match the club’s big ambitions

Interesting targets for Wolves and their manager.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:52 pm

We can probably expect to see a number of managers come and go while they fail to achieve these targets.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:55 pm

Ideas above their station this lot. Can see them falling flat on their faces.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:56 pm

Top 6 is certainly realistic when you throw enough money at the wall. A player fails? No problem - ship them out and buy another.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:57 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Ideas above their station this lot. Can see them falling flat on their faces.

If they go down with the money they have, there's something wrong. Virtually impossible.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:58 pm

Even with big-spending it will be difficult for them too compete for the title,first season up top ten would be decent and then build from there,they are trying to run before they can walk.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:01 pm

Probably just me that feels the need to say 'Amen' after hearing their manager's name.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:04 pm

tiger76 wrote:Even with big-spending it will be difficult for them too compete for the title,first season up top ten would be decent and then build from there,they are trying to run before they can walk.

They won't win the title unless Pep goes abroad. Or they'll pay him a billion a year to take charge.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:04 pm

Fair play to them for being so ambitious. Clearly not here just to bank the cash.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:04 pm

tiger76 wrote:Even with big-spending it will be difficult for them too compete for the title,first season up top ten would be decent and then build from there,they are trying to run before they can walk.

Top ten first season would be outstanding, regardless of how much they've spent. How many teams have finished top ten in their first season recently?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:05 pm

Idiots. Not a cat in hell’s chance.

They’ll be closer to relegation than the top ten this season.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:06 pm

It’s not that unrealistic tbh. 7 years is along time in football. Chelsea will be the same great season, shite the next few. Spurs? Doubt they’ll be as strong? City? Pep will be gone by then, won’t be as strong. Utd/Arsenal god knows how they’ll be.

It’s not too hard to imagine a top 10 this year. 7th the next. Then 5th/4th/3rd/2nd/1st

They most important seasons are the next 2. Hit their target for them and the bigger, better players will come.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:08 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Fair play to them for being so ambitious. Clearly not here just to bank the cash.

Ambition frowned upon on this board regardless of who you support

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:09 pm

Interesting to see how the manager gets on on the touchline this season, especially if decisions don't always go his way. He rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way in the Championship with his arrogance and ignorance.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:16 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Interesting to see how the manager gets on on the touchline this season, especially if decisions don't always go his way. He rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way in the Championship with his arrogance and ignorance.

You mean Colin , should get a medal for that

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:17 pm

Shame there are others trying just as hard. Thing about pi55ing contests is that someone is always gonna look very silly. It may be any team in the prem. a few will succeed the rest will crash and burn. right now we are really bucking the trend of mega rich owner prepared to say “I’ve so much money I can buy anything”. A league full of Veruca Salt’s. As it is I couldn’t be prouder of how we are competing.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:17 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:Idiots. Not a cat in hell’s chance.

They’ll be closer to relegation than the top ten this season.

Idiots for showing ambition, how is their not a cat in hell's chance? How do you think City suddenly won a title? The owners came in and spent a fortune, any club can do it with the right financial backing. If Accy Stanley found a billionaire owner who was prepared to throw billions at it, they could build whatever team they wanted, money talks.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:20 pm

joey13 wrote:Ambition frowned upon on this board regardless of who you support

You're mixing ambition with having more money than you can spend. Ambition is relative to your means.

I assume Cricketfield is fishing when he says banking the money...

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:24 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:You're mixing ambition with having more money than you can spend. Ambition is relative to your means.

I assume Cricketfield is fishing when he says banking the money...

How much profit last season not including the money from Keane and Gray sales ?

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:25 pm

joey13 wrote:You mean Colin , should get a medal for that

Yeh, fair enough but I'm sure that he wasn't the only one by any means.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:25 pm

joey13 wrote:How much profit last season not including the money from Keane and Gray sales ?

How much debt do we have?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:26 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:You're mixing ambition with having more money than you can spend. Ambition is relative to your means.

Correct.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:29 pm

andyh wrote:Shame there are others trying just as hard. Thing about pi55ing contests is that someone is always gonna look very silly. It may be any team in the prem. a few will succeed the rest will crash and burn. right now we are really bucking the trend of mega rich owner prepared to say “I’ve so much money I can buy anything”. A league full of Veruca Salt’s. As it is I couldn’t be prouder of how we are competing.

Enjoy it whilst it last cos Dyche wont be here forever and Whilst Wolves might be throwing money at it and competing at the top of the Prem league if we keep our prudent sensible approach in 10 years time there's a good chance we'll be a league 1 side albeit a stable and financially well run one

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:31 pm

Really hope they come a cropper.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:34 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Enjoy it whilst it last cos Dyche wont be here forever and Whilst Wolves might be throwing money at it and competing at the top of the Prem league if we keep our prudent sensible approach in 10 years time there's a good chance we'll be a league 1 side albeit a stable and financially well run one

Bait cast.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:40 pm

In what way. Im not having a go at our approach but its true that the main reason we are surviving and flourishing in this league with our approach is almost solely down to Dyche and how great a manager he is.

We will slip out of the league once Dyche goes and once the Parachute payments run out our revenue will equate to a League 1 team especially if a lot of other Championship owners are throwing money at it. Its logical that if we dont invest any of the owners money then we will naturally fall to a level where we can compete on transfers and wages which will be League 1

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:41 pm

People laughed in 2015 when Leicester’s said they wanted Europe in 5 years...

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:44 pm

SGr wrote:People laughed in 2015 when Leicester’s said they wanted Europe in 5 years...

Leicester winning the league only happened because every other team at the top was in disarray with managerial changes.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:49 pm

Spijed wrote:Leicester winning the league only happened because every other team at the top was in disarray with managerial changes.

What a weak argument to try and undermine Leicesters fantastic achievement and with that logic you could argue that we only came 7th because the teams like Everton, West Ham and Southampton were is disarray last season.

Im sure you wouldnt dream of down playing our success of last year the way you have with Leicesters title win

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:51 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:What a weak argument to try and undermine Leicesters fantastic achievement and with that logic you could argue that we only came 7th because the teams like Everton, West Ham and Southampton were is disarray last season.

Im sure you wouldnt dream of down playing our success of last year the way you have with Leicesters title win

Well you've constantly downplayed our own success to the point you seem to take pleasure in any downturn we have.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:52 pm

SGr wrote:People laughed in 2015 when Leicester’s said they wanted Europe in 5 years...

Did they say that? That result was a shock to everyone in football, the exception that bucks the trend. Very very few teams can manage it. How many English sides have made the top 4 in the last 10 years?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:53 pm

In 7 years Wolves could have one of the best teams in the league. Look at who they have already before kicking a PL ball.

A lot of their players walk into our team simple as.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:56 pm

Spijed wrote:Well you've constantly downplayed our own success to the point you seem to take pleasure in any downturn we have.

No I dont, if there are things I think we can do better or if there are things Im not happy with I will express my opinion but the 2nd half of last season is the most excited ive been about Burnley for a long time due to the prospect of coming 7th.

I constantly express the view of what we have done in the last 5 years is amazing but because I am able to hold this view without being 100% positive of absolutely everything to do with Burnley people like you cant comprehend this and have this view im just negative and a moaner.

Like how you conveniently avoided my point and just switched to a personal attack instead

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:57 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:We will slip out of the league once Dyche goes

Thanks for the heads up. Can you follow that up with tonight's Lotto numbers please

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:00 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Thanks for the heads up. Can you follow that up with tonight's Lotto numbers please

Its an opinion backed up with why I think it. Its what a message board is all about and I dont see when posters say we going to do something that is positive you jumping on their posts and being so facetious about them

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:03 pm

FactualFrank wrote:They won't win the title unless Pep goes abroad. Or they'll pay him a billion a year to take charge

Thanks for the heads up. Can you follow that up with tonight's Lotto numbers please

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:04 pm

Wolves spend £70m in a Summer the big boys spend that on a player.
Still no reason why it should work. Starting out with a bunch of strangers and no team spirit.
This is why SD only wants 3 or 4 a year and not all of them go straight into the team.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:06 pm

Only seven teams have won the 1st Division/ Premier League since 1990; three of those only once each.

Liverpool, Everton and Spurs have been ever presents in that time and haven't won it.

The odds are massively against Wolves bucking that trend anytime soon.

There's nothing wrong with having ambition but setting unrealistic targets can surely only work against them.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:07 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Thanks for the heads up. Can you follow that up with tonight's Lotto numbers please

But you already know them? Anyway, you're on the list.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:08 pm

FactualFrank wrote:But you already know them? Anyway, you're on the list.

Well thats two of us so looks like we're gonna have to split the pot im afraid

RammyClaret61 · Post by **RammyClaret61** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:11 pm

Setting unrealistic targets also gives the owners the perfect excuse to change manager whenever they feel a target isn’t, or hasn’t been achieved. So no pressure on him before they’ve even kicked a ball.

Claret eze · Post by **Claret eze** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:16 pm

Who from wolves would walk into our team?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:25 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:In what way. Im not having a go at our approach but its true that the main reason we are surviving and flourishing in this league with our approach is almost solely down to Dyche and how great a manager he is.

We will slip out of the league once Dyche goes and once the Parachute payments run out our revenue will equate to a League 1 team especially if a lot of other Championship owners are throwing money at it. Its logical that if we dont invest any of the owners money then we will naturally fall to a level where we can compete on transfers and wages which will be League 1

As and when Dyche goes the club will be a far more attractive managerial proposition then it has been for a long time.
You're being a doomsayer to suit your usual position.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:31 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:As and when Dyche goes the club will be a far more attractive managerial proposition then it has been for a long time.
You're being a doomsayer to suit your usual position.

Im not being a "doomsayer" at all. Im just being realistic and my first point was enjoy it while it lasts because I think what we are achieving and what Dyche is giving us is unbelievably good. I guess some people just think because we are a well run club this will go on forever well it wont because managers like Dyche come about once in a blue moon.

Again another poster who cant comprehend how I can be absolutely delighted with where we are and what we are achieving whilst still being able to see our limitations and have an opinion that we get some things wrong and could do some things better

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:43 pm

I forgot that Wolves were one of Sidney1st's bête noires

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:44 pm

Claret eze wrote:Who from wolves would walk into our team?

Moutinho, Jota, Neves, Costa to name a few

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:49 pm

Spijed wrote:Leicester winning the league only happened because every other team at the top was in disarray with managerial changes.

Winning the league doesn't "only happen"

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:53 pm

RammyClaret61 wrote:Setting unrealistic targets also gives the owners the perfect excuse to change manager whenever they feel a target isn’t, or hasn’t been achieved. So no pressure on him before they’ve even kicked a ball.

Burnley. " Team of the seventies " didn't quite happen.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:56 pm

Leicester were remarkably like us defensively, but with lightening break-out speed, a midfield that were able to provide the vision, and a principle striker with confidence he would finish every time. We have half of that formula.

Leicester still have Vardy, but that midfield supply chain is the missing ingredient now for them. This, coupled with other teams have learnt how to deal with the model, so it’s no longer a surprise

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:58 pm

Historically Wolves a much bigger team than Man City or Chelsea so why not.