Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:06 pm

Leicester didnt squeak the Title, they won it at a canter, with games to spare. Their achievement was magnificent every way you look at it. To call it a ‘one off’ is fair, but to call it lucky is just missing the point. They were worthy Champions.
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Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:08 pm

As for Wolves? Only time will tell.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by CombatClaret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:14 pm

Man City
Chelsea
Wolves
Arsenal
Fulham
Leicester

Top 6 teams by owners net wealth.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by tim_noone » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:22 pm

Not quite the love in of Aberdeen but I'm glad wolves have reached "The promised Land" they've been on the same long journey as us to a degree.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by CombatClaret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:28 pm

tim_noone wrote:Not quite the love in of Aberdeen but I'm glad wolves have reached "The promised Land" they've been on the same long journey as us to a degree.
Except we weren't bankrolled by China
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Post by tim_noone » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:34 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Except we weren't bankrolled by China
Their journey was even longer chinese backed or not.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by Winstonswhite » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:01 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:As and when Dyche goes the club will be a far more attractive managerial proposition then it has been for a long time.
You're being a doomsayer to suit your usual position.
You’re right. We will be an attractive proposition but we said that when Owen Coyle walked out and we ended up with you know who.

In many respects the manager who takes over after Dyche will be on a hiding to nothing. Massive boots to fill and not a great deal of cash to spend. So not as attractive as you think to the majority of managers.

Devils advocate is right and the stars align with managers like Dyche once a lifetime and we are where we are solely down to him- not because we are a “well run club”.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:02 pm

I disagree. I think when Dyche leaves, it'll be a very tempting vacancy for other managers to come in carry the baton.
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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:13 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Historically Wolves a much bigger team than Man City or Chelsea so why not.
I'm guessing you are referring to the 50's/60's era of the likes of Bert Williams,Billy Wright,Bert Slater, Peter Broadbent just to name a few. They were a major force in English football but both City and Chelsea also had golden eras with outstanding players too. So I would tend to disagree that Wolves have a greater pedigree than either of the two other teams mentioned. A proud history,certainly but that applies to a lot of clubs who nowadays are finding it increasingly more and more difficult to regain and restore lost status.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:17 pm

tim_noone wrote:Their journey was even longer chinese backed or not.
Not really. They got back to the PL long before we did in '03.

We've done it 'the right way' and they've done it the right way then fallen back out. Now they've got there again but largely by becoming a Portuguese satellite and a rich man's play thing.

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Post by tim_noone » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:26 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Not really. They got back to the PL long before we did in '03.

We've done it 'the right way' and they've done it the right way then fallen back out. Now they've got there again but largely by becoming a Portuguese satellite and a rich man's play thing.
Aaah yes they did I stand corrected.how could I forget mick mc carthys reserves at old Trafford. They shared part of a long sh!t journey all the same.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:38 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:I'm guessing you are referring to the 50's/60's era of the likes of Bert Williams,Billy Wright,Bert Slater, Peter Broadbent just to name a few. They were a major force in English football but both City and Chelsea also had golden eras with outstanding players too. So I would tend to disagree that Wolves have a greater pedigree than either of the two other teams mentioned. A proud history,certainly but that applies to a lot of clubs who nowadays are finding it increasingly more and more difficult to regain and restore lost status.

League Titles
Chelsea 6 (1 pre Abramovich)
City 5. (3 in last decade)
Wolves 3

Apart from a brief period at the end of the 1960s with City, Wolves had the most recent Golden period of the 3, pre premier league but also like us Wolves fell the furthest before rising again.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:49 pm

KRBFC wrote:Idiots for showing ambition, how is their not a cat in hell's chance? How do you think City suddenly won a title? The owners came in and spent a fortune, any club can do it with the right financial backing. If Accy Stanley found a billionaire owner who was prepared to throw billions at it, they could build whatever team they wanted, money talks.
£70m isn’t a fortune when you’re starting off with a Championship standard squad.

We’ll see if the owners are still backing Wolves in a couple of years time.

PS: They’ll get dicked tonight.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:51 pm

piston broke wrote:Wolves spend £70m in a Summer the big boys spend that on a player.
Still no reason why it should work. Starting out with a bunch of strangers and no team spirit.
This is why SD only wants 3 or 4 a year and not all of them go straight into the team.
Absolutely spot on.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:10 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:League Titles
Chelsea 6 (1 pre Abramovich)
City 5. (3 in last decade)
Wolves 3

Apart from a brief period at the end of the 1960s with City, Wolves had the most recent Golden period of the 3, pre premier league but also like us Wolves fell the furthest before rising again.
Fair enough. Didn't have the stats. to hand. My earliest memories of them are the late 50's/early60's when along with Spurs they always seemed to be our biggest rivals. Not forgetting of course stealing the Championship away from them on that glorious night at Maine Rd.

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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by Claret eze » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:39 pm

KRBFC wrote:Moutinho, Jota, Neves, Costa to name a few
Really.who are we dropping?

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:48 pm

Not going to plan

Wolves 0 Everton 1

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Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:53 pm

Claret eze wrote:Really.who are we dropping?
KRBFC does get a little overexcited and wet his panties from time to time. Let’s replace key members of a Team that got Burnley(yes, Burnley) into a Europa League spot with players who’s only achievement thus far is to get a well funded Wolves side out of the Championship. Mitigation must be given for the fact that their Manager is Portuguese. That usually has KRBFC spraying his shorts somewhat reflexively.
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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:54 pm

He must be a mess tonight, two Portuguese managers on show.
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Post by Spijed » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:56 pm

If Wolves can't score against a team that currently contains Phil Jagielka & Leighton Baines they'll know it's going to be a very hard slog this season.

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Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:56 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Not going to plan

Wolves 0 Everton 1
Not gone to plan for any of the promoted sides today - here's hoping Wolves follow suit and get stuffed
and are brought down to earth with an almighty bump.
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Post by jrgbfc » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:02 pm

Think it's going to be a much tougher league this season. The likes of Everton, West Ham and Palace will all be much stronger. Outside the top 6 the general standard last season was dreadful.

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Post by Spijed » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:05 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Think it's going to be a much tougher league this season. The likes of Everton, West Ham and Palace will all be much stronger. Outside the top 6 the general standard last season was dreadful.
That gets said every season and whilst some teams will be stronger, others will drop off too.

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Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:07 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:He must be a mess tonight, two Portuguese managers on show.
Oh, I think he’ll only have eyes for Marco Silva. Until Pep Guardiola walks by, of course.

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:07 pm

Is it just my telly, or are Wolves shirts more yellow now, rather than old gold? :|
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Post by IndigoLake » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:09 pm

Wolves look a tad vulnerable in defence!

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:10 pm

Seen a few comments suggesting defeats today for Brighton and Wolves prove that there transfer policy of spending big isnt going to work

Im presuming if Burnley lose tomorrow then that equally proves right the posters who said our transfer policy has been poor and we havent signed enough players?

Personally I think jumping to conclusions based on the first game of the season is a little silly
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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:12 pm

Jagielka off.

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Post by CBT » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:13 pm

Claret eze wrote:Really.who are we dropping?
Westwood Hendrick and Lennon for 3

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:15 pm

Plan back on track!

1-1.

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Post by claretandy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:15 pm

I think i would find a place for Neves, what a goal !

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Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:17 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Is it just my telly, or are Wolves shirts more yellow now, rather than old gold? :|
It's not your TV, they are bright yellow on mine too.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:21 pm

I'll say it again, Ruben Neves is world class

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:22 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:KRBFC does get a little overexcited and wet his panties from time to time. Let’s replace key members of a Team that got Burnley(yes, Burnley) into a Europa League spot with players who’s only achievement thus far is to get a well funded Wolves side out of the Championship. Mitigation must be given for the fact that their Manager is Portuguese. That usually has KRBFC spraying his shorts somewhat reflexively.
Moutinho didn't play in the Championship for them, please keep up I shouldn't need to educate others this much.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:23 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Wolves look a tad vulnerable in defence!
Boly looks like a liability.

Wolves very lucky to find themselves back in this game with a good chance of winning now. Considering the money Everton have spent it is criminal that Jagielka is still starting games.

Can’t judge a side from their first 45 minutes at this level but Wolves looked woeful. There’s obviously some talent in that side but it may take some time for them to adapt to the league.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:24 pm

Claret eze wrote:Really.who are we dropping?
The entire midfield, Neves > Westwood, Moutinho > Hendrick, Jota > JBG, Costa > Lennon.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:26 pm

KRBFC wrote:The entire midfield, Neves > Westwood, Moutinho > Hendrick, Jota > JBG, Costa > Lennon.
Surely by now you realise that the team is more than the sum of its parts?

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Post by Longsider » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:33 pm

Spijed wrote:If Wolves can't score against a team that currently contains Phil Jagielka & Leighton Baines they'll know it's going to be a very hard slog this season.
They have and the team no longer has Jagielka in it. :)

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Post by CBT » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:34 pm

KRBFC wrote:The entire midfield, Neves > Westwood, Moutinho > Hendrick, Jota > JBG, Costa > Lennon.
Wouldn't go that far JBG is worth his salt in either team and could argue Hendrick isn't first xi so on revision I'd take Costa over Lennon and Jota would be a great option alongside wood but perhaps not as good as vydra will prove
Neves or moutinho would both replace Westwood but probably not cork or defour

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Post by IanMcL » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:43 pm

Shortman at Wolves hasn't a Holy Ghost of a chance!

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:44 pm

CBT wrote:Wouldn't go that far JBG is worth his salt in either team and could argue Hendrick isn't first xi so on revision I'd take Costa over Lennon and Jota would be a great option alongside wood but perhaps not as good as vydra will prove
Neves or moutinho would both replace Westwood but probably not cork or defour
I love Cork and Defour but you're off your nut if you think Neves isn't better.

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Post by CBT » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:53 pm

Your right I'am off my nut ( bloody monkey dust)but don't think neves would break up their partnership when both fully fit

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Post by simonclaret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:56 pm

Richarlison, what a debut. 2-1 Everton.

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:57 pm

Plan derailed again.

1-2 Toffees :lol:

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Post by Lord Beamish » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:57 pm

KRBFC wrote:Moutinho didn't play in the Championship for them, please keep up I shouldn't need to educate others this much.
Oh, you got me! I’m not au fait with the real ins and outs of a middling Midlands Team.
Seeing as everyday is a school day, has he ever been involved in an unfasionable team qualifying for a Europa League Spot?
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Post by claretandy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:00 pm

Everton have been dominating with 10 men, deservedly in front.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:02 pm

Wolves just don’t seem to commit anyone to attacks. Very lacklustre.

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Post by simonclaret » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:08 pm

Keane having a fine game.

Edit: lost his man for the equalizer!

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Post by CBT » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:10 pm

simonclaret wrote:Keane having a fine game.

Edit: lost his man for the equalizer!
Until he lost his man....

But your right he's played well
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Re: Targets set for Wolves by Fosun over next 7 years.

Post by Spijed » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:10 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Wolves just don’t seem to commit anyone to attacks. Very lacklustre.
We don't commit many either, but the BIG difference to most sides in the Prem is that we've got an almost impregnable wall that's so hard to break down.

By the looks of it, Wolves haven't.

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