james bond

Likeavydra · Post by **Likeavydra** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:56 pm

tom hardy surely?

Joe14 · Post by **Joe14** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:04 pm

Idris Elba

Likeavydra · Post by **Likeavydra** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:05 pm

Joe14 wrote:Idris Elba

pc rubbish

Likeavydra · Post by **Likeavydra** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:08 pm

agree he'd be a good villain tho

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:14 pm

No, and no.

Mind you, I said no to Daniel Craig, and twenty seconds into Casino Royale I changed my mind.

Likeavydra · Post by **Likeavydra** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:16 pm

I just hope they keep bond as he is and not revert back to roger Moore piece brosnan style

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:26 pm

Isn't James Bond supposed to be a codename, and as such not tied to a specific character type? Elba would be a great James Bond

Likeavydra · Post by **Likeavydra** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:28 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Isn't James Bond supposed to be a codename, and as such not tied to a specific character type? Elba would be a great James Bond

doesn't have the look of a ladies man tho

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:29 pm

Likeavydra wrote:doesn't have the look of a ladies man tho

What does a ladies man look like?

Likeavydra · Post by **Likeavydra** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:31 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:What does a ladies man look like?

daniel craig

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:31 pm

Brosnan was awful , though early Roger Moore I thought were 2/3 decent outings before they more or less descended into farce .Is Nigel Havers too old ?

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:32 pm

Likeavydra wrote:pc rubbish

Why?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:33 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:What does a ladies man look like?

P!ssed unkempt smelling of beer n fags etc etc

Likeavydra · Post by **Likeavydra** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:35 pm

Socrates wrote:Why?

because he'd be getting it just cos he's black not because hes suited.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:36 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Isn't James Bond supposed to be a codename, and as such not tied to a specific character type? Elba would be a great James Bond

I think 007 is the code name? James Bond has a full backstory written about him in the books. It’s quite specific, and if I’m not wrong, I believe Fleming wrote this in after Connery was cast

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:36 pm

Likeavydra wrote:because he'd be getting it just cos he's black not because hes suited.

by that logic andi peters is a contender.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:37 pm

Likeavydra wrote:because he'd be getting it just cos he's black not because hes suited.

Why isn’t he suited?

Tall? Dark? Handsome? Athletic? Box Office star? Popular both sides of the Atlantic?

Ticks every box there.

I’ve got to be honest man ..... you’re sounding as if you think he shouldn’t get it because he’s black.

Burnleybabe · Post by **Burnleybabe** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:37 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:What does a ladies man look like?

Aidan Turner

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:38 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:I think 007 is the code name? James Bond has a full backstory written about him in the books. It’s quite specific, and if I’m not wrong, I believe Fleming wrote this in after Connery was cast

I've just read online that James Bond is indeed the person, cleared up in Skyfall apparently.

My mistake, but even still, doesn't matter who plays him in my opinion.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:38 pm

I like Tom Hardy but I've long thought Idris Elba latter would make an excellent James Bond. First came across him in The Wire - think he's a great actor.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:45 pm

Likeavydra wrote:because he'd be getting it just cos he's black not because hes suited.

I'm what way would he not be suited?

Likeavydra · Post by **Likeavydra** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:47 pm

Socrates wrote:Why isn’t he suited?

Tall? Dark? Handsome? Athletic? Box Office star? Popular both sides of the Atlantic?

Ticks every box there.

I’ve got to be honest man ..... you’re sounding as if you think he shouldn’t get it because he’s black.

not at all. where are the other black contenders? one horse race.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:48 pm

Lead guy from McMafia.
Definitely

Likeavydra · Post by **Likeavydra** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:49 pm

I accept I'm a minority then on this

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:50 pm

Likeavydra wrote:I accept I'm a minority then on this

Being a minority is a good thing mate, like black actors.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:51 pm

Likeavydra wrote:doesn't have the look of a ladies man tho

You don't know many ladies, do you?

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:52 pm

If it’s a Black Ladies Man you’re after, why not Bill Cosby?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:54 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:If it’s a Black Ladies Man you’re after, why not Bill Cosby?

The name's Bond, zim zam boppity bippity James Bond, zappity zoooo pudding pop.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:55 pm

Isn't it normal for the James Bond character to be suited?? As well as being a ladies man he's usually well turned out.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:57 pm

chekhov wrote:Isn't it normal for the James Bond character to be suited?? As well as being a ladies man he's usually well turned out.

I think James Bond should be a disabled wheelchair bound black lesbian.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:57 pm

Elba would be a great choice.

Tom Hiddleston would be another option.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:03 pm

Likeavydra wrote:pc rubbish

I know a lot of coppers take second jobs but this would be ridiculous

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:03 pm

James Bond isn't a code name, it's his real name.

Now I know this isn't going to sit well with some of you, but because his name is James Bond, he probably is going to be a british male. And if he isnt, he should be. Not a woman, or a Chinese fella, or any other weird and wonderful thing you care to mention in the name of equality.

There. Said it.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:06 pm

bobinho wrote:James Bond isn't a code name, it's his real name.

Now I know this isn't going to sit well with some of you, but because his name is James Bond, he probably is going to be a british male. And if he isnt, he should be. Not a woman, or a Chinese fella, or any other weird and wonderful thing you care to mention in the name of equality.

There. Said it.

Didn’t stop Brosnan getting the role

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:08 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:If it’s a Black Ladies Man you’re after, why not Bill Cosby?

Or Harvey Weinstein if they’re sticking with a white male.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:13 pm

The fictional character of James Bond being played by a black man? Don't be absurd!

They'll have Jesus being played by a white man next... oh hang on.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:20 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Didn’t stop Brosnan getting the role

Fair point...but Brosnan didn't play him as Irish. Could be Polish actor, as long as the accent is British, because James Bond is.

Idris Elba? Nah...not for me. For the same reason Brad Pitt shouldn't play Barack Obama in a biopic of his life.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:32 pm

bobinho wrote:Fair point...but Brosnan didn't play him as Irish. Could be Polish actor, as long as the accent is British, because James Bond is.

Idris Elba? Nah...not for me. For the same reason Brad Pitt shouldn't play Barack Obama in a biopic of his life.

i doubt elba would play him as an irishman. especially as he's english.

and you do realise barack obama is non-fictional, right?

i'd love the next bond to be black; if only to upset the small-minded folk who think it's actually important.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:39 pm

Likeavydra wrote:not at all. where are the other black contenders? one horse race.

Surely if the selection of the next Bond was PC-motivated then there would be more than one black contender for the role?

You’re not coming across very well on this thread.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:41 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Surely if the selection of the next Bond was PC-motivated then there would be more than one black contender for the role?

You’re not coming across very well on this thread.

Understatement of the week!

He sounds like an outraged Daily Mail reader.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:49 pm

Another shout for Idris Elba here.

Although I do like Luke Evans though. Met him in NYC once though and he was quite a nice chap.

Granny WeatherWax · Post by **Granny WeatherWax** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:53 pm

Idris would make an immense bond. Superb actor.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:58 pm

I wonder if Likeavydra likes gammon?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:59 pm

yTib wrote:i doubt elba would play him as an irishman. especially as he's english.

and you do realise barack obama is non-fictional, right?

i'd love the next bond to be black; if only to upset the small-minded folk who think it's actually important.

We were talking about brosnan, who IS Irish. You do realise that right?

Yes, I do realise Barack obama is real. Perhaps I should’ve said “brad Pitt shouldn’t play kunta kinte in a remake of roots, or meteor man if you are worried that I can’t use that reference because slavery was real”. I rather think you are just playing tho eh?

And you’d love the next bond to be black, but colours not important? Seems to me it’s important to you.

My REAL point here, is why change things just to pacify people? James Bond is James Bond. Well, he would be if folk just let him be. James Bond isnt a black character. Nor is he a woman. Just let him be what he is.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:05 pm

bobinho wrote:We were talking about brosnan, who IS Irish. You do realise that right?

Yes, I do realise Barack obama is real. Perhaps I should’ve said “brad Pitt shouldn’t play kunta kinte in a remake of roots, or meteor man if you are worried that I can’t use that reference because slavery was real”. I rather think you are just playing tho eh?

And you’d love the next bond to be black, but colours not important? Seems to me it’s important to you.

My REAL point here, is why change things just to pacify people? James Bond is James Bond. Well, he would be if folk just let him be. James Bond isnt a black character. Nor is he a woman. Just let him be what he is.

So you think the comparison between a black man and a white man is the same as a white man and a woman? What single difference would it make if the actor playing James Bond was black?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:17 pm

Black Bond, female Dr Who. Where will it all end?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:24 pm

No. I don't. I just think James Bond is James Bond. To be honest, your question baffles me. Seems a bit too deep for what I actually meant.

And I don't think there really would be much of a difference if the actor was black.

I'm simply saying he is what he is...why change it just for the sake of pacifying a minority, or someone who FEELS like they are part of a minority? Or more importantly, for someone who wants to get upset on the minority's behalf?

If it ends up being Idris Elba (great actor) so be it. It won't seem right to me as Bond is a white character. I'll go to watch it, and i'll judge it based on what it is, and if it's shite, i'll say so. But it wont be shite because of the colour of Elbas skin.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:28 pm

bobinho wrote:Fair point...but Brosnan didn't play him as Irish. Could be Polish actor, as long as the accent is British, because James Bond is.

Idris Elba? Nah...not for me. For the same reason Brad Pitt shouldn't play Barack Obama in a biopic of his life.

Connery played him as just a little bit Scottish.

DBSport · Post by **DBSport** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:29 pm

I think Elba would make a great Bond personally.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:32 pm

bobinho wrote:No. I don't. I just think James Bond is James Bond. To be honest, your question baffles me. Seems a bit too deep for what I actually meant.

And I don't think there really would be much of a difference if the actor was black.

I'm simply saying he is what he is...why change it just for the sake of pacifying a minority, or someone who FEELS like they are part of a minority? Or more importantly, for someone who wants to get upset on the minority's behalf?

If it ends up being Idris Elba (great actor) so be it. It won't seem right to me as Bond is a white character. I'll go to watch it, and i'll judge it based on what it is, and if it's shite, i'll say so. But it wont be shite because of the colour of Elbas skin.

But what makes you think that Elba is being considered for the sake of pacifying a minority? I think that's a ridiculous thing to say. He's being considered because he's currently one of the most popular British actors. The fact that he has black skin is incidental.

I've not read the Bond books but I can't imagine that there's much made about James Bond being white any more than him having dark hair (which Craig doesn't).

Sean Connery was the first to play James Bond; he was tall, dark haired and had a broad Scottish accent. Daniel Craig is relatively short, has blonde hair and a well-spoken English accent. Do these discrepancies in the character bother you?