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tom hardy surely?
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Idris Elba
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No, and no.
Mind you, I said no to Daniel Craig, and twenty seconds into Casino Royale I changed my mind.
Mind you, I said no to Daniel Craig, and twenty seconds into Casino Royale I changed my mind.
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I just hope they keep bond as he is and not revert back to roger Moore piece brosnan style
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Isn't James Bond supposed to be a codename, and as such not tied to a specific character type? Elba would be a great James Bond
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doesn't have the look of a ladies man thoClaretAndJew wrote:Isn't James Bond supposed to be a codename, and as such not tied to a specific character type? Elba would be a great James Bond
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What does a ladies man look like?Likeavydra wrote:doesn't have the look of a ladies man tho
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daniel craigClaretAndJew wrote:What does a ladies man look like?
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Brosnan was awful , though early Roger Moore I thought were 2/3 decent outings before they more or less descended into farce .Is Nigel Havers too old ?
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Why?Likeavydra wrote:pc rubbish
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P!ssed unkempt smelling of beer n fags etc etcClaretAndJew wrote:What does a ladies man look like?
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because he'd be getting it just cos he's black not because hes suited.Socrates wrote:Why?
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I think 007 is the code name? James Bond has a full backstory written about him in the books. It’s quite specific, and if I’m not wrong, I believe Fleming wrote this in after Connery was castClaretAndJew wrote:Isn't James Bond supposed to be a codename, and as such not tied to a specific character type? Elba would be a great James Bond
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by that logic andi peters is a contender.Likeavydra wrote:because he'd be getting it just cos he's black not because hes suited.
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Why isn’t he suited?Likeavydra wrote:because he'd be getting it just cos he's black not because hes suited.
Tall? Dark? Handsome? Athletic? Box Office star? Popular both sides of the Atlantic?
Ticks every box there.
I’ve got to be honest man ..... you’re sounding as if you think he shouldn’t get it because he’s black.
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Aidan TurnerClaretAndJew wrote:What does a ladies man look like?
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I've just read online that James Bond is indeed the person, cleared up in Skyfall apparently.Roosterbooster wrote:I think 007 is the code name? James Bond has a full backstory written about him in the books. It’s quite specific, and if I’m not wrong, I believe Fleming wrote this in after Connery was cast
My mistake, but even still, doesn't matter who plays him in my opinion.
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I like Tom Hardy but I've long thought Idris Elba latter would make an excellent James Bond. First came across him in The Wire - think he's a great actor.
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I'm what way would he not be suited?Likeavydra wrote:because he'd be getting it just cos he's black not because hes suited.
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not at all. where are the other black contenders? one horse race.Socrates wrote:Why isn’t he suited?
Tall? Dark? Handsome? Athletic? Box Office star? Popular both sides of the Atlantic?
Ticks every box there.
I’ve got to be honest man ..... you’re sounding as if you think he shouldn’t get it because he’s black.
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Lead guy from McMafia.
Definitely
Definitely
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I accept I'm a minority then on this
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Being a minority is a good thing mate, like black actors.Likeavydra wrote:I accept I'm a minority then on this
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You don't know many ladies, do you?Likeavydra wrote:doesn't have the look of a ladies man tho
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If it’s a Black Ladies Man you’re after, why not Bill Cosby?
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The name's Bond, zim zam boppity bippity James Bond, zappity zoooo pudding pop.Lord Beamish wrote:If it’s a Black Ladies Man you’re after, why not Bill Cosby?
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Isn't it normal for the James Bond character to be suited?? As well as being a ladies man he's usually well turned out.
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I think James Bond should be a disabled wheelchair bound black lesbian.chekhov wrote:Isn't it normal for the James Bond character to be suited?? As well as being a ladies man he's usually well turned out.
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Elba would be a great choice.
Tom Hiddleston would be another option.
Tom Hiddleston would be another option.
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I know a lot of coppers take second jobs but this would be ridiculousLikeavydra wrote:pc rubbish
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James Bond isn't a code name, it's his real name.
Now I know this isn't going to sit well with some of you, but because his name is James Bond, he probably is going to be a british male. And if he isnt, he should be. Not a woman, or a Chinese fella, or any other weird and wonderful thing you care to mention in the name of equality.
There. Said it.
Now I know this isn't going to sit well with some of you, but because his name is James Bond, he probably is going to be a british male. And if he isnt, he should be. Not a woman, or a Chinese fella, or any other weird and wonderful thing you care to mention in the name of equality.
There. Said it.
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bobinho wrote:James Bond isn't a code name, it's his real name.
Now I know this isn't going to sit well with some of you, but because his name is James Bond, he probably is going to be a british male. And if he isnt, he should be. Not a woman, or a Chinese fella, or any other weird and wonderful thing you care to mention in the name of equality.
There. Said it.
Didn’t stop Brosnan getting the role
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Or Harvey Weinstein if they’re sticking with a white male.Lord Beamish wrote:If it’s a Black Ladies Man you’re after, why not Bill Cosby?
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The fictional character of James Bond being played by a black man? Don't be absurd!
They'll have Jesus being played by a white man next... oh hang on.
They'll have Jesus being played by a white man next... oh hang on.
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Fair point...but Brosnan didn't play him as Irish. Could be Polish actor, as long as the accent is British, because James Bond is.wilks_bfc wrote:Didn’t stop Brosnan getting the role
Idris Elba? Nah...not for me. For the same reason Brad Pitt shouldn't play Barack Obama in a biopic of his life.
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i doubt elba would play him as an irishman. especially as he's english.bobinho wrote:Fair point...but Brosnan didn't play him as Irish. Could be Polish actor, as long as the accent is British, because James Bond is.
Idris Elba? Nah...not for me. For the same reason Brad Pitt shouldn't play Barack Obama in a biopic of his life.
and you do realise barack obama is non-fictional, right?
i'd love the next bond to be black; if only to upset the small-minded folk who think it's actually important.
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Surely if the selection of the next Bond was PC-motivated then there would be more than one black contender for the role?Likeavydra wrote:not at all. where are the other black contenders? one horse race.
You’re not coming across very well on this thread.
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Understatement of the week!Rileybobs wrote:Surely if the selection of the next Bond was PC-motivated then there would be more than one black contender for the role?
You’re not coming across very well on this thread.
He sounds like an outraged Daily Mail reader.
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Another shout for Idris Elba here.
Although I do like Luke Evans though. Met him in NYC once though and he was quite a nice chap.
Although I do like Luke Evans though. Met him in NYC once though and he was quite a nice chap.
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Idris would make an immense bond. Superb actor.
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I wonder if Likeavydra likes gammon?
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yTib wrote:i doubt elba would play him as an irishman. especially as he's english.
and you do realise barack obama is non-fictional, right?
i'd love the next bond to be black; if only to upset the small-minded folk who think it's actually important.
We were talking about brosnan, who IS Irish. You do realise that right?
Yes, I do realise Barack obama is real. Perhaps I should’ve said “brad Pitt shouldn’t play kunta kinte in a remake of roots, or meteor man if you are worried that I can’t use that reference because slavery was real”. I rather think you are just playing tho eh?
And you’d love the next bond to be black, but colours not important? Seems to me it’s important to you.
My REAL point here, is why change things just to pacify people? James Bond is James Bond. Well, he would be if folk just let him be. James Bond isnt a black character. Nor is he a woman. Just let him be what he is.
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So you think the comparison between a black man and a white man is the same as a white man and a woman? What single difference would it make if the actor playing James Bond was black?bobinho wrote:We were talking about brosnan, who IS Irish. You do realise that right?
Yes, I do realise Barack obama is real. Perhaps I should’ve said “brad Pitt shouldn’t play kunta kinte in a remake of roots, or meteor man if you are worried that I can’t use that reference because slavery was real”. I rather think you are just playing tho eh?
And you’d love the next bond to be black, but colours not important? Seems to me it’s important to you.
My REAL point here, is why change things just to pacify people? James Bond is James Bond. Well, he would be if folk just let him be. James Bond isnt a black character. Nor is he a woman. Just let him be what he is.
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Black Bond, female Dr Who. Where will it all end?
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No. I don't. I just think James Bond is James Bond. To be honest, your question baffles me. Seems a bit too deep for what I actually meant.
And I don't think there really would be much of a difference if the actor was black.
I'm simply saying he is what he is...why change it just for the sake of pacifying a minority, or someone who FEELS like they are part of a minority? Or more importantly, for someone who wants to get upset on the minority's behalf?
If it ends up being Idris Elba (great actor) so be it. It won't seem right to me as Bond is a white character. I'll go to watch it, and i'll judge it based on what it is, and if it's shite, i'll say so. But it wont be shite because of the colour of Elbas skin.
And I don't think there really would be much of a difference if the actor was black.
I'm simply saying he is what he is...why change it just for the sake of pacifying a minority, or someone who FEELS like they are part of a minority? Or more importantly, for someone who wants to get upset on the minority's behalf?
If it ends up being Idris Elba (great actor) so be it. It won't seem right to me as Bond is a white character. I'll go to watch it, and i'll judge it based on what it is, and if it's shite, i'll say so. But it wont be shite because of the colour of Elbas skin.
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Connery played him as just a little bit Scottish.bobinho wrote:Fair point...but Brosnan didn't play him as Irish. Could be Polish actor, as long as the accent is British, because James Bond is.
Idris Elba? Nah...not for me. For the same reason Brad Pitt shouldn't play Barack Obama in a biopic of his life.
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I think Elba would make a great Bond personally.
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But what makes you think that Elba is being considered for the sake of pacifying a minority? I think that's a ridiculous thing to say. He's being considered because he's currently one of the most popular British actors. The fact that he has black skin is incidental.bobinho wrote:No. I don't. I just think James Bond is James Bond. To be honest, your question baffles me. Seems a bit too deep for what I actually meant.
And I don't think there really would be much of a difference if the actor was black.
I'm simply saying he is what he is...why change it just for the sake of pacifying a minority, or someone who FEELS like they are part of a minority? Or more importantly, for someone who wants to get upset on the minority's behalf?
If it ends up being Idris Elba (great actor) so be it. It won't seem right to me as Bond is a white character. I'll go to watch it, and i'll judge it based on what it is, and if it's shite, i'll say so. But it wont be shite because of the colour of Elbas skin.
I've not read the Bond books but I can't imagine that there's much made about James Bond being white any more than him having dark hair (which Craig doesn't).
Sean Connery was the first to play James Bond; he was tall, dark haired and had a broad Scottish accent. Daniel Craig is relatively short, has blonde hair and a well-spoken English accent. Do these discrepancies in the character bother you?