Part Time Fans

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:10 am

JTClaret wrote:Football fans can be a strange breed anyway.

They'll complain that part-timers don't have a season ticket, complain those that don't go at all should make the effort for the big games and complain those that only make the effort for the big games don't go more often.
Add to this complaining that football is too expensive whilst saying the club should pay bigger fees and the board should invest more money.

Fact is the part-timers who catch the bug are the ones we want.
Scrap that, I just want anyone to support Burnley, full-time, part-time or every once in a while

You can only be a Proper Fan™ if you like going onto games. It is known.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:28 am

What's the difference between a part-timer and a walk-on?

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:29 am

Behind me were some people with suspicious sounding 'Southern' accents. I informed a steward at the first opportunity and, quite rightly, they were ejected.

A local club for local people.

JTClaret · Post by **JTClaret** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:40 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:You can only be a Proper Fan™ if you like going onto games. It is known.

Surely only a proper fan if you don't like it but go anyway

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:48 am

gawthorpe_view wrote:One who buys a ticket even if there's a stream available?

No, that is just someone who has enough money readily available to be able to go. Even when watching on stream at home on my own I still go as crazy (if not more so) when we score as I would when I am in the ground.

I can't claim to put much money into the club nowadays although I do what I can when I can. If streams weren't available it is more likely that I wouldn't stay in to listen to the scores / radio (where available) and may eventually lose a bit of interest which would result in me going less frequently or not at all.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:49 am

JTClaret wrote:Surely only a proper fan if you don't like it but go anyway

There's a few on here that seem to fit that bill with the amount of moaning they do even though we are in the midst of thee best period in a lot of our lifetimes.

Millertime v1.7 · Post by **Millertime v1.7** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:57 am

Lads, in our ranks it's always been acknowledged that Bloots has always been a part time fan full time drinker......but when he's on form like THIS we can't help but take the loveable rogue under our wing as one of our own. Lets raise a glass to bluto this morning fellas

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:59 am

I'd love to know the algorithm to separate a part-time fan to an absolutely raving nutter of a hardcore one.
The fact is - there isn't one. It's all opinion based.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:14 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Spot on. Same with anything. So many people are bitter and jealous about other people. I dont get it. Saw itbon the thread about rooneys amazing assist. Rather than commend it people just wanted to bicker.

To be fair, the Rooney assist thread developed into a discussion regarding the level of football played in the MSL.
You're dead right about the bitterness and petty jealousy exhibited by the usual suspects on here, though. They are clearly not content.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:18 am

There were a few knobheads on last night. One cretin had a particular issue with Joe Hart and wouldn't shut up about him being "****".

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:38 am

Could someone please create a player ratingesque 1-10 of fans so that we can rate ourselves prior to partaking in the player ratings thread? `We` could then create an algorithm which will give a super fan`s ratings more weight than a non-fan`s. There would also then need to be created, for fairness, a buffoonery scale so that credence can be placed in fan`s opinion of said player`s performance for the aforementioned ratings thread. One could be a super fan but could also have the mental tools of a juvenile mountain hare rendering his (or her) opinion less valid. In conclusion...

a (fan status) - b (buffoonery level) = c (credence of opinion). `c` could then be placed into the uptheclarets super computer, giving the dream fan the greatest of weight regards his player rating and through all the swings and roundabouts a true figure will be reached which no one can argue with.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:32 pm

jlup1980 wrote:There was a lad outside the Jimmy Mac stand before the game who was stopped by stewards because he rocked up with a bottle of haig club in one hand and a carton of cranberry juice in the other. I'll stick my neck out and say he probably wasn't a regular!

Why would Kevin McDonald be at the game?!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:39 pm

There were some sat near me in the JHU glad to see them on. Teenagers but really got into the game.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:40 pm

It's a weird, but strangely seems a prevalent reaction on cup games and the like when "strangers" turn up in in the seats around someone, to assume they're part timers and know nowt when in effect they're usually just "tourists" from other parts of the ground having a change of perspective!!!

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:51 pm

If those “newbies” that turn up and sit in the seats around you are “part time fans” then what are those fans that have vacated those seats to allow these part time fans to purchase them?

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:39 pm

WazzaClaret wrote:At the end of the 90 mins I needed a pee and I had a very strange gentleman saying I was a City fan in the JHL as I walked out. His wife was obviously embarrassed pleading for him to stop (he must have thought there were a few undercover city fans)
Even if I was leaving, I'd paid my entrance and I'll leave when I want.

This happened close to where I sit a couple of seasons ago when we lost to Man United at home. There's an older chap that sits near us who decided two young lads sat a couple of rows behind were away fans in the home end and started hurling abuse at them. Fortunately the people next to the young lads convinced him to drop it and move on but it was incredibly cringe worthy and uncomfortable for everyone in the vicinity.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:26 pm

colne-claret wrote:What's peoples problem with new fans? One bloke in Cricketfield tonight quizzing people on why they were sat there and calling them part time supporters. I don't get the hate, people have to start somewhere. Do we want 10,000 loyal fans instead of 16,000 with a mix of 'part time supporters'. Baffles me.

Hey, Colne-claret, sounds like the fellow I crossed when I came in the Cricket Field end for the QPR game in 2016. I'd travelled from France for my first game in 2 years. Can't remember what he said exactly but me and my sister were searching for our seats when he implied that we had no real right to be there before brandishing his season card as if to say look at me a'm a REAL fan.
It was more pathetic than anything, he was obviously feeling insecure. I just smiled and gave him a pat on the back as we squeezed past.
As folk have said above, we should be welcoming to all supporters, be they occasional, fair weather. or one off visitors.
Another thing to consider is that the base of support for the club is a lot greater than the whatever 5,000, 10,000 so called "die hard" fans. There are many and good reasons why every supporter can't get to every game. How many folk were at Wembley in 1988 or 2009? They are all valuable.

corporal jones · Post by **corporal jones** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:36 pm

The real part time fans are the early leavers. Now where did I put that tin hat?

Dejavu · Post by **Dejavu** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:46 pm

I can't stand these fans and if 1 ever had a direct go at me I would put them in their place for sure. Complete and utter losers...

corporal jones · Post by **corporal jones** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:55 pm

on a similar vein-it always bugs me when the so called real fans in the cfield stand have at go at those in the BL for not "singing" etc-the majority in there have been following BFC for decades and were probabaly regulars on the longside and bee hole end before the numpties in the singing section were even born!

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:00 pm

I always move seats for cup games and these Euro ties, makes a nice change watching from a different view and a different stand.

Never crossed my mind I'd be classed as a part-timer by the 'locals' we end up next to. But we must be lucky, everyone's been pretty sound.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:09 pm

Did spot a few league of gentleman folk around last night, few scowls and that

Good to see a lot of families and different age ranges on tho, can on.y be good for BFC moving forward

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:20 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Could someone please create a player ratingesque 1-10 of fans so that we can rate ourselves prior to partaking in the player ratings thread? `We` could then create an algorithm which will give a super fan`s ratings more weight than a non-fan`s. There would also then need to be created, for fairness, a buffoonery scale so that credence can be placed in fan`s opinion of said player`s performance for the aforementioned ratings thread. One could be a super fan but could also have the mental tools of a juvenile mountain hare rendering his (or her) opinion less valid. In conclusion...

a (fan status) - b (buffoonery level) = c (credence of opinion). `c` could then be placed into the uptheclarets super computer, giving the dream fan the greatest of weight regards his player rating and through all the swings and roundabouts a true figure will be reached which no one can argue with.

Went on last season 1 point
Went on every season during dyches tenure 5 points
Went on pre coyle 25 points
Went on Cotterills Luton home game 100000000 points
Didnt turn your back on the team in the mid 90's - uber fan

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:55 pm

I'm classifying fans now as being different to the real supporters.
Fans don't need to attend, you have "armchair" fans, fans who only see their club on Sky,
Supporters attend games.....

I think

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:00 pm

Ah but supporters could be classed as different to fans.

Go into the club shop and spend a grand on merchandise, you're supporting the club financially. Does that make you a proper fan, though?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:03 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Ah but supporters could be classed as different to fans.

Go into the club shop and spend a grand on merchandise, you're supporting the club financially. Does that make you a proper fan, though?

I like to think that supporters support the team, but I do get your point, Frank

WazzaClaret · Post by **WazzaClaret** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:03 pm

SammyBoy wrote:This happened close to where I sit a couple of seasons ago when we lost to Man United at home. There's an older chap that sits near us who decided two young lads sat a couple of rows behind were away fans in the home end and started hurling abuse at them. Fortunately the people next to the young lads convinced him to drop it and move on but it was incredibly cringe worthy and uncomfortable for everyone in the vicinity.

Yeah he was 60ish so it's probably the same guy, what a crap gimmick.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:07 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'd love to know the algorithm to separate a part-time fan to an absolutely raving nutter of a hardcore one.
The fact is - there isn't one. It's all opinion based.

Raving nutter - Rocky.
Hardcore - Dave Burnley.

Work the ladder down from there

CS24 · Post by **CS24** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:17 pm

I've been supporting Burnley since 2016, the past season I had a ST and went to 10 away games. Hopefully I'll beat that this season.
Living over the summer in Romania makes it impossible for me to get to any games, but from September on I'll be back.
To be honest, I never had any issues with much older (in terms of supporting the club) fans. In fact every single person I spoke to didn't have any issue with that.

Bring on Athens! (And the groups!)

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:31 pm

Me and my kids would be classed as part time fans I guess certainly when it comes to going to games but we are full on fans 24/7. We were down for Aberdeen that cost me enough in Hotel stay clubshop visit etc to stop me coming down again anytime soon. Sadly I have more important things to spend my money on and I need to save up for my next visit.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:08 am

CS24 wrote:I've been supporting Burnley since 2016, the past season I had a ST and went to 10 away games. Hopefully I'll beat that this season.
Living over the summer in Romania makes it impossible for me to get to any games, but from September on I'll be back.
To be honest, I never had any issues with much older (in terms of supporting the club) fans. In fact every single person I spoke to didn't have any issue with that.

Bring on Athens! (And the groups!)

Interesting.

How old are you?

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:30 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Went on last season 1 point
Went on every season during dyches tenure 5 points
Went on pre coyle 25 points
Went on Cotterills Luton home game 100000000 points
Didnt turn your back on the team in the mid 90's - uber fan

I grew up watching them in the 90's and loved it just as much as now. Do i qualify?

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:04 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Went on last season 1 point
Went on every season during dyches tenure 5 points
Went on pre coyle 25 points
Went on Cotterills Luton home game 100000000 points
Didnt turn your back on the team in the mid 90's - uber fan

Hey!!!! Follow my points system or exeunt left, good sir!

Your above HAS to be 1,3,5,8,10.

I`m on (a)10 therefore and give myself a (b) 2 on the buffoonery scale so I`m good to go on the next player ratings thread with a c of 8!!!!!

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:30 am

Ushered on to the pitch by the old bill at Cardiff so we didn't get bricked. Who remembers that.
Got a brick in the balls at the Stockport riot
Drove back from Hereford in a van with no windows
Climbed the fences at York
Slept in a transit van in Torquay with 4 other men (non gay way)
Arrested in Rotherham for throwing a sausage (not guilty)
Uranating in Doncaster, right by a park where no one could see in my defence, other than the old bill (guilty £60 fine)
Feared for my life on several occasions and laughed all the way home.
Brilliant times
Moved away and now rarely go to games. You're a Burnley supporter or you're not. The way in which you choose to support is entirely up to you

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:11 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Go into the club shop and spend a grand on merchandise, you're supporting the club financially. Does that make you a proper fan, though?

No - it just means you’ve bought the full kit !

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:01 am

Rumbletonk wrote:Ushered on to the pitch by the old bill at Cardiff so we didn't get bricked. Who remembers that.
Got a brick in the balls at the Stockport riot
Drove back from Hereford in a van with no windows
Climbed the fences at York
Slept in a transit van in Torquay with 4 other men (non gay way)
Arrested in Rotherham for throwing a sausage (not guilty)
Uranating in Doncaster, right by a park where no one could see in my defence, other than the old bill (guilty £60 fine)
Feared for my life on several occasions and laughed all the way home.
Brilliant times
Moved away and now rarely go to games. You're a Burnley supporter or you're not. The way in which you choose to support is entirely up to you

Sounds like we are on a similar Burnley arc.

Cardiff was one hell of an experience. At least the financial contributions from the Cardiff mob from behind the away end paid for my chip butties when we got home

Stockport always vile - actually got ejected for kicking the ball out of the ground (IN A NIGH ON GALE FORCE WIND!!!!)
York away my best experience watching Burnley (I was 18). I missed only one game that season (Maidstone away - work interview).
My `new` car actually broke down as we drove down to one of my worst experiences watching Burnley, Torquay away in the play-offs.
What were you actually doing with the offensive banger?
I can recall on our way to Bramall Lane one season getting lost on the 600th roundabout in the city, dying for a p*ss, leaping out of my sister`s mini and over someone`s rose bushes to relieve myself...owner not best pleased but I did apologise profusely,

MAGNIFICENT times in the early to mid-90s but wow how amazing is it now!!!????

I actually haven`t physically been on a Burnley game since that awful Rovers home game under Laws in March 2010...dreadful feeling watching that and seeing Laws arms crossed, dressed in black, stood on the touchline utterly bereft of ideas.

Live on the other side of the world now but never a day goes by I`m not on uptheclarets or thinking of the mighty Clarets!!!!!! Thank the maker for live streams!!!!!

CS24 · Post by **CS24** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:02 am

fidelcastro wrote:Interesting.

How old are you?

Just over 22. Now entering my third year of supporting the club

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:23 am

In all seriousness times change priorities change. From being about 14 to 24 I just did what I wanted if I woke up Saturday morning and thought I fancy going to Hartlepool to watch the.Clarets or wherever I just rang my pals and off we went. Has life’s gone on I have different priorities and different commitments so I even miss 4/5/6 home games a season now and never go to away games. But what can’t be denied is I still want them to win as much now just as much as I did back then.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:34 am

How about, like, ...well...everybody kinda just goes when they want to??

Real ale 2 · Post by **Real ale 2** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:35 am

Three cheers for the "part time " fans they've opted to pay their money and back the Clarets the atmosphere has been better in the home ends against Aberdeen and Istanbul than most other games by that I mean the Longside etc have actually sung usually the only noise you get is the collective groans when a pass goes astray if we can get a result in Athens expecting one of the great atmospheres that only a night at the Turf can generate.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:10 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Sounds like we are on a similar Burnley arc.

Cardiff was one hell of an experience. At least the financial contributions from the Cardiff mob from behind the away end paid for my chip butties when we got home
Stockport always vile - actually got ejected for kicking the ball out of the ground (IN A NIGH ON GALE FORCE WIND!!!!)
York away my best experience watching Burnley (I was 18). I missed only one game that season (Maidstone away - work interview).
My `new` car actually broke down as we drove down to one of my worst experiences watching Burnley, Torquay away in the play-offs.
What were you actually doing with the offensive banger?
I can recall on our way to Bramall Lane one season getting lost on the 600th roundabout in the city, dying for a p*ss, leaping out of my sister`s mini and over someone`s rose bushes to relieve myself...owner not best pleased but I did apologise profusely,

MAGNIFICENT times in the early to mid-90s but wow how amazing is it now!!!????

I actually haven`t physically been on a Burnley game since that awful Rovers home game under Laws in March 2010...dreadful feeling watching that and seeing Laws arms crossed, dressed in black, stood on the touchline utterly bereft of ideas.

Live on the other side of the world now but never a day goes by I`m not on uptheclarets or thinking of the mighty Clarets!!!!!! Thank the maker for live streams!!!!!

We're the same age Hiroshima. The were the best of times, they were the worst of times...

Ask Diesel about the sausage lobbing. He might finally admit to it after 26 years. I did some serious time for him, 4 hours

. To be fair all the lads waited for me whilst I did my stretch.

I was at Maidstone. Les Thompson was playing left back for them. I remembering him having some good banter with the away fans that day.

Love it now of course but my point is just because I don't go every week, and fair play to those that do, doesn't mean I don't love the club.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:18 am

Yep priorities change. I think for as long as i live close by and its accesible and affordable I will always go on. Even if the football isnt enjoyable.

However if circumstances change. I move away etc its possible I might not make it in the same way as i do now. That said with my dad, brother, nephews all season ticket holders its a great pastime regardless of result.

I cant make next two games for example. But that doesnt mean i want us to win any less. Or wont be shouting at the tv.