Jeff Hendrick

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby claretspice » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:41 pm

taio wrote:You've maintained Hendrick has never played as a number 10. Even after Dyche said so. And he made no such reference to it being a different role to what our supporters regard as a number 10. You took somebody to task on here when they referred to him playing as a number 10, and you did the same when someone else described his position as an AMC, yet that is clearly the position he was playing. You've constantly referred to him playing as a third central midfielder but everyone else, Dyche included, has recognised otherwise.


Pretty comfortable that if you read Dyche's comments from this interview last season, its quite obvious that he thinks the "number 10" badge is a bit of a misnomer, and that hes broadly asking Hendrick to operate in a midfield role (he went as far as to point out that too much emphasis is put on how team sheets are written on paper and there's a big difference between how it looks in and out of possession for a start). So im not sure you're correct there at all. But anyway, pretty pointless diversion from the point of this discussion.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby burnley007 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 2:00 pm

Just hit it Jeff. Ffs

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Claretmatt4 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:28 pm

Played quite well today I think.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:29 pm

yep did well, let down by Wood who offered zero
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Hedontplayforyou » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:30 pm

Jeff did nothing wrong today. Maybe should have shot first time when given the chance. But as mentioned already, Wood offered nowt. He was so poor today

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby claretcarrot93 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:30 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:yep did well, let down by Wood who offered zero


If that Hendrick playing well I don't want to see him play bad. Should have scored but for some reason took 4 touches rather than hitting it first time

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby KRBFC » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:31 pm

I thought he should have stayed on and replaced Westwood not that it would've really made any difference, the damage was already done.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby joey13 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:32 pm

We looked better with him on the pitch than off it

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Hedontplayforyou » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:32 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:If that Hendrick playing well I don't want to see him play bad. Should have scored but for some reason took 4 touches rather than hitting it first time


So you take that one thing as an overall assessment? Please assess Ben Mee, Stephen Ward and Chris Wood for me today...

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby DCWat » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:34 pm

Probably our best player today. That was a worrying performance!

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Claretmatt4 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:34 pm

Does seem reluctant to shoot which is frustrating.

Wood looked miles off the pace.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby DCWat » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:35 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:So you take that one thing as an overall assessment? Please assess Ben Mee, Stephen Ward and Chris Wood for me today...


Abysmal. Wood offered nothing, unfortunately.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby KefkaClaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:37 pm

Won 5 on the bounce last season when Wood was paired with Barnes. Not sure why we’ve not done it once this season.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby chekhov » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:37 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Does seem reluctant to shoot which is frustrating.

You mean like his reluctance to shoot on Thursday? Don't be daft.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby BabylonClaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:43 pm

Played well today and unfortumate to be pullled
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Tuddybfc » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:12 pm

Hendrick shouldn’t be used as a scapegoat today, a fair few players worse than him, and it’s Dyche’s fault for persisting playing him out of position
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby beddie » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:13 pm

Specifically watched him today after the recent criticism, his running and the positions he got into we're excellent. I thought he was outstanding.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Wilsdenclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:15 pm

He was OK today, no more than that but he was one of the less poor players today

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Goody1975 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:19 pm

Played well last weekend and just missed the killer final pass a couple of times, ditto today. Awful on Thursday but we were chasing the game for long periods.

Frustrating performances for quite a while as we know he is a very good player when on form but doesn't deserve to be targeted at all.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby jrgbfc » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:20 pm

Deserved to stay on the pitch today but for some reason Dyche thought we needed 2 holding midfielders when we were two goals down.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Burnleyareback2 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:21 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:Played well today and unfortumate to be pullled

Another positive game for Jeff, just had to make way for 2 strikers.

Wish we would start with 2 strikers at home for all games excluding the top 6.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Dark Cloud » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:24 pm

Not always his biggest fan here, but I honestly thought Jeff was excellent today and subbing him was plain daft , especially when Lord Lucan was sighted more often than Lennon in that second half!!

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Top Claret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:29 pm

joey13 wrote:We looked better with him on the pitch than off it


Agree.. We looked even worse after the substitutions. Vokes and Barnes got zero service. Westwood is miles away from being a Premier league midfielder, he has no engine and can't play a full 90
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby quoonbeatz » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:29 pm

excellent today.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Lancasterclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:30 pm

Comfortably our best player today.

You don't take off your best player when you are 3-1 down.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby joey13 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:31 pm

Top Claret wrote:Agree.. We looked even worse after the substitutions. Vokes and Barnes got zero service. Westwood is miles away from being a Premier league midfielder, he has no engine and can't play a full 90

Westwood gets caught in possession far too often

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:33 pm

Wrong man to take off today had a good game just needs to shoot more when he gets the chance.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Quickenthetempo » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:28 pm

Plays the simple stuff alright but picks the wrong option time and time again. He got clear once or twice but plays simple ball backwards so we don't have any advantage.

Maybe it's him maybe it's Dyche's tactics but we have been outclassed twice in two games in the forward creativity department.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Hibsclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:12 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Comfortably our best player today.

You don't take off your best player when you are 3-1 down.


Agree he was good today.

However, you can’t just say the best player can’t be substituted when you are changing the system. We never looked like scoring in the first half of the second half and a change of system is what was required. Whether it worked or not (which it didn’t on this occasion) doesn’t mean it was the wrong decision. Hendrick did 120 mins on Thurs night too.

Also if Vokes scores with his first touch they may have panicked.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby ClaretJimmy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:17 pm

played well today, should have stayed on and took Westy off for Barnes to go with two up top. I don't like the 4-4-1-1 against teams around our level, it seems negative.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Lancasterclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:17 pm

Yeah, you can

We always keep Cork and Westwood on when we go to 4-42, and though Westwood recycles the ball better, Hendrick gives us more options in and around the box.

If we'd only been a goal down, then yeah, keep Westwood on but we need to do differing things as we all know (and other teams, managers and players do) what we do.

Problem we have had in the last two games is that once we can't get the ball down the wings, then we look absolutely toothless.

Runners from midfield, a bit of variation and quicker passing required.

Very unlikely to have made a difference today as we were really poor after going 3-1 down, but its something to bear in mind.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:40 pm

BurnleyFC wrote::shock:

I completely get the defence of Hendrick but the first name? Really?

Can I not call him by his first name...wow!

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Cirrus_Minor » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:34 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:excellent today.


I agree with that, best game for a long time.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:53 pm

BigChaCha wrote:I remember most on here slagging off JBG at one stage last season as well. A premier footballer's trajectory is rarely straight up.

Dean Marney was an absolute donkey for a while when we he first came. He was nowhere near in the same league as our current midfielders in his first few seasons. It takes time sometimes.

Even Thierry Henry and Cantona where very average in their first couple of seasons!

Not that i would even use Hendrick in the same sentence ordinarily.

But in cantonas first three english seasons he won 3 titles.

In Henrys he won one title and scored 58 league goals.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby tim_noone » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:01 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Not that i would even use Hendrick in the same sentence ordinarily.

But in cantonas first three english seasons he won 3 titles.

In Henrys he won one title and scored 58 league goals.

Que savent les francais! :roll:

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby Vino blanco » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:07 am

"Excellent "' , "best performance" , what was the result ?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Postby tim_noone » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:10 am

Vino blanco wrote:"Excellent "' , "best performance" , what was the result ?

Weren't you present? 1...3


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