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Joe Hart

Postby evensteadiereddie » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:50 am

An excellent performance last night, he saved our skins on several occasions.

Just one thing: I'm probably being a bit old-school here but the punching the ball away thing rather than catching it alarms me.

Is it something Billy Mercer should be be working with JH on or, as an excellent and very experienced keeper, should Hart be left to make the split-second decisions he feels comfortable with ?

There was at least one occasion where it seemed he would have been able to catch it with relative ease.

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby andyh » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:55 am

Undoubtedly been spoilt by nick pope. Best at claiming crosses in all my years of waltching Burnley... and that goes back nearly 50 years. Similar decisions to Heaton to be fair to Joe.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:03 pm

Played really well - great distribution!
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Silkyskills1 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:08 pm

I've no real problem with a goalkeeper punching the ball away. As long as his mind is made up and he goes for distance. Main problem occurs when a goalkeeper is 'caught in two minds' and ends up flapping at the ball.

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby MRG » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:18 pm

I surprised that it wasnt mentioned on here last night to be honest

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Giftonsnoidea » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:26 pm

Played a blinder, saved our skins on at least 3-4 certain goals, might turn into bargain of the season

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby ElectroClaret » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:33 pm

You can almost see the confidence surging through him.
Had a tough time lately, and I'm biased, but I'm convinced that playing under our manager and staff is bringing the best out of him. A cracking keeper and, as said, could be an absolute bargain.

As for the punching, its no biggie.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby FactualFrank » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:38 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:You can almost see the confidence surging through him.
Had a tough time lately, and I'm biased, but I'm convinced that playing under our manager and staff is bringing the best out of him. A cracking keeper and, as said, could be an absolute bargain.

As for the punching, its no biggie.


I'm not really surprised with how well he's playing. I posted when he came to us that I feel with him it's always been a case of morale and not feeling wanted; not his ability. SD is perfect for him. It wouldn't surprise me for him to be mentioned as a possible for England again during this season.

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Tall Paul » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'm not really surprised with how well he's playing. I posted when he came to us that I feel with him it's always been a case of morale and not feeling wanted; not his ability. SD is perfect for him. It wouldn't surprise me for him to be mentioned as a possible for England again during this season.


He'll be back in the England squad sooner rather than later if he keeps his place in our team.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby HiroshimaClaret » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:54 pm

Who`d have taken a bet 6 months ago on Joe Hart being Burnley`s No.1 and both Tom Heaton and Nick Pope possibly seeking other options come January?
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby FactualFrank » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:59 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Who`d have taken a bet 6 months ago on Joe Hart being Burnley`s No.1 and both Tom Heaton and Nick Pope possibly seeking other options com January?


A few on here can see the future, knowing which players we wasted buying, so I'm sure they would have.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Selby Claret » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:43 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: I'm convinced that playing under our manager and staff is bringing the best out of him.


I bet the last 'wayward' Joe we took under our wing would agree with you

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Cleveleys_claret » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:50 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:An excellent performance last night, he saved our skins on several occasions.

Just one thing: I'm probably being a bit old-school here but the punching the ball away thing rather than catching it alarms me.

Is it something Billy Mercer should be be working with JH on or, as an excellent and very experienced keeper, should Hart be left to make the split-second decisions he feels comfortable with ?

There was at least one occasion where it seemed he would have been able to catch it with relative ease.


Agree with this but i do think a lot of goalkeepers punch as a way of protecting themselves. So much easier to pick up injuries when landing holding a ball than without a ball.

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby claretblue » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:00 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Who`d have taken a bet 6 months ago on Joe Hart being Burnley`s No.1 and both Tom Heaton and Nick Pope possibly seeking other options come January?


Ladbrokes! ;)

:)

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby RingoMcCartney » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:22 pm

Joe Hart.-

FORM is temporary.

QUALITY is permanent.

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Re: Joe Hart

Postby CrosspoolClarets » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:32 pm

That one save in particular to his left from Visca I don't think Heaton or Pope would have saved. It looked in.

Potentially the signing of the decade.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby Phoenixknight » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:23 pm

Think I am right in saying that both of our keepers dislocated their shoulders trying to catch hold of the ball.
So undoubtedly there are pro's and con's.
There is an element of chance with every decision a goalkeeper takes.
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Re: Joe Hart

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:25 pm

Phoenixknight wrote:Think I am right in saying that both of our keepers dislocated their shoulders trying to catch hold of the ball.
So undoubtedly there are pro's and con's.
There is an element of chance with every decision a goalkeeper takes.

Spot on and exactly what i was going to say - they both did.

While its better if they catch, if a keeper can punch it far and with conviction he is far better doing that than trying to catch it.

Hart has probably been doing this all his career. So to try and change that approach now would be foolish. Much like Pep trying to change how he plays the ball out shot his confidence.

I am happy for him to do what he is comfortable with. As long as he is punching it wide there shouldn't be much of a problem.

Already the most confident keeper I have seen for us. So he is probably more comfortable punching than catching thats all.


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