Vydra - could he make a difference?

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Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:41 pm

From what I've seen of him, he seems to be the sort of player we've been missing. A player to actually play in the hole properly and link midfield to attack. He also likes to run at defenders and try his luck from outside the box. We're missing Defour and Brady, but hope Vydra makes the bench and comes on against Fulham.
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Re: Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by Firthy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:43 pm

He could be the next Vardy if you rearrange his name :)
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Re: Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:43 pm

Ha, well spotted.

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Re: Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by KRBFC » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:47 pm

Yeah I think so, Wood had zero service today. The wide players just don't offer an awful lot really and Hendrick isn't a natural number 10.

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Re: Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by ebby » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:51 pm

What position/role does Lennon play? We used to have wingers like Connelly, Morgan, Kindon, James etc.
Watched Tripps last night on TV - wish he was still here - what a player - but also was given service as well.
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Re: Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by buzzclarets79 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:51 pm

We simply don’t have enough goals in us. Any team that can score two past us will always get something. As soon as that third went in today that was it.

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Re: Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by chekhov » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:52 pm

Firthy wrote:He could be the next Vardy if you rearrange his name :)
Genius!

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:55 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote:We simply don’t have enough goals in us. Any team that can score two past us will always get something. As soon as that third went in today that was it.
That's why I think Vydra will help. He just looks the sort of player who doesn't mess about and will help us penetrate the opposition deeper and quicker.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:55 pm

We don't play the type of game that allows a player like Vydra to showcase his talents. We're a laborious team, our game is all about the work, not the talent.

Vydra is a number 10 player, that's where he shines, I fear he'll be played elsewhere and we'll just all be frustrated.

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Re: Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by chekhov » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:57 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:We don't play the type of game that allows a player like Vydra to showcase his talents. We're a laborious team, our game is all about the work, not the talent.

Vydra is a number 10 player, that's where he shines, I fear he'll be played elsewhere and we'll just all be frustrated.
Come on you're just talking like that cos you're a bit down. Keep positive!

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Post by DCWat » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:59 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:We don't play the type of game that allows a player like Vydra to showcase his talents. We're a laborious team, our game is all about the work, not the talent.

Vydra is a number 10 player, that's where he shines, I fear he'll be played elsewhere and we'll just all be frustrated.
Time will tell but I don’t think he will be played elsewhere.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:59 pm

chekhov wrote:Come on you're just talking like that cos you're a bit down. Keep positive!
Nah I'm not down mate, just realistic.

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Post by chekhov » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:05 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Nah I'm not down mate, just realistic.
I understand. The squad is a bit thin on creativity just now, especially when maybe our 2 most creative players are injured.
Looking forward to them coming back.

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Post by SkiptonClaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:07 pm

So we’re pinning our hopes on Vydra ? Think that may serve to illustrate the paucity of our transfer window, yet many on here we’re incredulously hailing it as a success.
Oldest squad in the league, zero apparent creativity, more goalkeepers than effective midfielders and strikers.
Not good enough, nowhere near good enough.

Where’s Walts and the coffee carrier ? Weren’t they going to be ripping it up this season ?
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Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:08 pm

chekhov wrote:I understand. The squad is a bit thin on creativity just now, especially when maybe our 2 most creative players are injured.
Looking forward to them coming back.
The lack of updates on Defour is unusual, not even an ETA on his arrival. He was supposed to have had an operation, rested over summer and come back. What's actually happened? Is he out for the season?

Always worry how a player comes back after a bad injury so it'll be hard for Brady.

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Post by bumba » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:08 pm

Messi wouldn't even have made a difference today with the others around him

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Re: Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by chekhov » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:12 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:The lack of updates on Defour is unusual, not even an ETA on his arrival. He was supposed to have had an operation, rested over summer and come back. What's actually happened? Is he out for the season?

Always worry how a player comes back after a bad injury so it'll be hard for Brady.
Yeah you get to wondering if he's going to play for us again (Defour). Sh!t now I'm starting to get depressed.

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Post by Slurpy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:14 pm

Vydra would have broke the net with that chance Hendrick had today. Instead, he tried to be too clever.

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Post by KefkaClaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:14 pm

If there is other issues with Defour it begs the question why we didn’t sign a replacement?

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Post by bfcjg » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:21 pm

Hopefully he will be what we are lacking,we just need to play the ball on the ground more.
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Post by Longsidejono » Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:29 pm

We better hope so, country didn’t go to the World Cup so has been free all summer why we leave it last min to buy a unfit player for over 10 million doesn’t seem like good business and Southampton was there for the taking and so was Watford in the first half, 5 points dropped already cause of this Guy? That’s if we’re assuming he’s the answer to all our prayers. Can’t rely on one player.

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:15 pm

Yes he is the answer to what we've been missing, but can only help if Sean plays him where he's most effective.
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Re: Vydra - could he make a difference?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:21 pm

The longer he's not playing for us the better he's becoming.
It isn't worth playing him to ruin the image people have of him already.
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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:28 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:The longer he's not playing for us the better he's becoming.
It isn't worth playing him to ruin the image people have of him already.
You should know better of me to say that. I've randomly been looking at Yotube videos of the latest dance music and then eventually started watching tutorials on how to talk to a giraffe, mixed with watching videos of Vydra.

People will complain, regardless, we know that. But I think we have a cracking player.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:29 pm

It wasn't aimed at you, I've seen enough comments to see that he's getting 'better' the longer he doesn't play.

The same happened with Marney for us and Ings at Liverpool.

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Post by SGr » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:31 pm

He certainly can make the difference. Needs to be deployed properly though - in the number 10 role - not just alongside the main striker.

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:48 pm

He will be of no benefit if he is played in a similar role to the the rest of the team, he's simply a forward player and consequently needs to be used as that to get the best from him, can be a cracking player but only if he's given the freedom that 1 or 2 other players in the past haven't, I'm not having a go but we need to abandon some of the defensive minded play and take our chances, no other team passes back as much as us in my opinion and if we continue to do so we're gonna get found out.

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Post by Vino blanco » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:53 pm

Vydra won't play coz he's not Dyche's fit. It could be October before Hendrick stops in the number 10 role, ferkin joke.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:57 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Vydra won't play coz he's not Dyche's fit. It could be October before Hendrick stops in the number 10 role, ferkin joke.
Well, I expect Vydra to start from the bench. So when he appears on the bench, that's a good sign that he's not far off. He'll then come on as a sub and we'll see what he can do. I'd be surprised if it's October though. I'm half expecting (hoping), he makes the bench next weekend.

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Post by Vino blanco » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:10 pm

It's not a question that he's not far off. Our most successful seasons under Dyche have been with 442, Ings and Vokes, Ashley Barnes and and Vokes, Wood and Barnes ( Everton at home, West Ham away etc). For flicks sake lets get back to basics, sorry, I'd forgotten Hendrick as number 10 is the answer. Nonsense .

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:16 pm

We should all know the pattern by now, 6 weeks to get dyche fit, hamstring pull, touch and go, back December, it looked to me that on Sunday majority had taken that long getting dyche fit " pre-season " that their already bloody knackered, some people might say yes but we've got europa league as well but we're largely fielding 2 different teams, let's get vydra on the pitch ffs and give us some movement and creativity up front.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:26 pm

Starts for the u23s at Coventry. Already 1-0 up through Wells.

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Post by Steve1956 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:34 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:The longer he's not playing for us the better he's becoming.
It isn't worth playing him to ruin the image people have of him already.
Brilliant! :lol:

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Post by MACCA » Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:50 pm

If he can shoot and wirk the goal Keeper from 0-20 yards out it'll be an upgrade on what we have currently, if he can set up a few, or even score a goal or 2 along the way, it'll be a bonus .

The lack of bodies in the box , or having the positional instinct of a goalscorer is the issue. No point Lennon getting on the ball and skinning his man, when the pull back falls into a an open space around the penalty spot, with the 1 forward player we have making a near post run.

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Post by jurek » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:55 pm

Like to think Vydra could be ready for the United game in two weeks time
and Brady and Defour for after the international break two weeks later.

We need all three in and firing on all cylinders especially Brady and Defour as they could
make the difference if they can come back and show the form they were in before injuries last season.
That's not a given as we all know. It could take them a while toget back up to speed.
Vydra is an unknown quantity as we don't know whether he can make the step up.

Hopefully so.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:56 pm

Hail Vydra!

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:09 pm

U23s somehow turned a 2-0 half time lead into a 4-2 defeat at Coventry

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Post by Conroy92 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:17 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:It wasn't aimed at you, I've seen enough comments to see that he's getting 'better' the longer he doesn't play.

The same happened with Marney for us and Ings at Liverpool.
Marney didn't become better when he was out injured but the need for him in the team became greater. The same with Defour now. Stop imagining you know what others think!

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Post by willsclarets » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:36 pm

Of course he can make a difference, that's why we bought him. He won't always be THE difference, as with Brady, Defour or anyone else. The more options we have the better, and there's no doubt we were a tad short on Sunday. On another day we go in at half time ahead, and that system and 11 players gets us 3 points.
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Post by ClaretAL » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:41 pm

:lol: OMG melt down ! The under 23 squad also have play rubbish in the second half bug.
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Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:00 pm

Fear and Trembling, and the sickness until Death!...FFS

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Post by BabylonClaret » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:00 pm

He wont make any difference until hes fit. Its a bit sad that we havent managed to strengthen properly in the window but we are where we are. Hopefully he will be first team ready soon.

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Post by piston broke » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:12 pm

Currently behind Wells and Walters but I pray he plays as a 10 and not on the wing.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:42 pm

He's making the difference!
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Post by Bosscat » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:49 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:42 pm
He's making the difference!
What a difference too....

Pace etc looks good alongside Jay Rod and his confidence must be climbing faster than an F35 off HMS Queen Elizabeth
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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:50 pm

Great display, good movement. As someone mentioned in the player ratings, seemed to have quite an understanding with Jrod already.

Early days, of course, but they look promising together.

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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:53 pm

We are going to need striking options next year for a busy European campaign.
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Post by buzzclarets79 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:57 pm

Vydra & Jay are the two most natural finishers we have. Don’t like to think what’s going to happen when Wood & Barnes are fit, who will start out of the four.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:00 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:57 pm
Vydra & Jay are the two most natural finishers we have. Don’t like to think what’s going to happen when Wood & Barnes are fit, who will start out of the four.
Easy, we'll play 4-2-4.

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Post by BennyD » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:01 pm

Vydra and J’Rod. At the moment they are working well, and when they stop working well, put Wood and Barnes back on. What a non-problem to have.

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