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Our subs bench

Post by KRBFC » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:08 pm

Heaton, Taylor, Vokes, Barnes, Gibson, Long, Bardsley.

Not a midfielder or a winger in sight
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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Tuddybfc » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:09 pm

Would rather have McNeil or a somewhat fit Vydra than either Long or Bardsley

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:10 pm

Bring brady defour and Vydra into the mix and it’s a different story. Stop over reacting.
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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Goody1975 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:Heaton, Taylor, Vokes, Barnes, Gibson, Long, Bardsley.

Not a midfielder or a winger in sight
The first areas that needed attention when the transfer window opened, the three signings we made are excellent but an out and out central midfielder and left winger were priority, especially if we progress to the group stages of the Europa League.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:12 pm

I've almost given up on Defour actually playing many minutes for us this season, but I expect Vydra to make the bench next weekend and hoping Brady won't be much longer.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by ebby » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:12 pm

by Granny WeatherWax » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:10 am

Bring brady defour and Vydra into the mix and it’s a different story. Stop over reacting.
Dont think its overreacting - we got beat at home and we played poor.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:13 pm

1 game! I’d say is very much an over reaction.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by KRBFC » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:14 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Bring brady defour and Vydra into the mix and it’s a different story. Stop over reacting.
I'm not overreacting, we are playing 2 games a week without a winger or a central midfielder on the bench. How are we supposed to ''rotate'' when we can barely fill a subs bench, p1ss poor for a club who made how much last season? £140M?

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:15 pm

Think your mistaking income for profit.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:17 pm

ebby wrote:Dont think its overreacting - we got beat at home and we played poor.
Were you facing the pitch in the first half?

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by SGr » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:19 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Were you facing the pitch in the first half?
Do we get points for being decent first half?

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:20 pm

Posters keep mentioning Brady and Defour but both seem somewhat fragile.

Presumably neither player is under consideration at the moment let alone "touch and go".

The club was aware of the position with both players before the window closed so perhaps they are nearer a return than many of us fear. Let's hope so.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by KRBFC » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:20 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Think your mistaking income for profit.
I think you're mistaking what i'm saying, I didn't say £140M profit, infact I didn't say £140M income either but I meant £140M income from finishing 7th.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by BigChaCha » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:22 pm

Bring brady defour and Vydra into the mix and it’s a different story. Stop over reacting.
SD knew before the summer that Brady and Defour would take a long while to get up to speed and wouldn't be available for a considerable time. He also knew when he bought Vydra that he'd had an operation in the summer and again would take a while to get up to the fitness and form required!

The OP is spot on .....

..... We should have had 2 or 3 quality wingers/midfielders on the bench today that were bought in over the summer to give us more options.
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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:24 pm

SGr wrote:Do we get points for being decent first half?
No

I responded to somebody posting that we played poor. That first half performance was better than our second half performance at Chelsea last season. People need to get a grip...

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by KRBFC » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:24 pm

Where is Wally Walters? is he injured or was that horrendous showing in Turkey the final nail in the coffin for his Burnley career?

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:26 pm

KRBFC wrote:Where is Wally Walters? is he injured or was that horrendous showing in Turkey the final nail in the coffin for his Burnley career?
Ha ha. Judging a guy on his first full competitive game for months. I bet Walters was glad of your support from the stands in turkey....

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:27 pm

Something that a lot of people fail to realise. It's all very well saying we should have gone out and bought this, that and the other - but you're basically also asking the club to spend more money than they value the player at (because obviously, they would have otherwise made an offer) and quite probably, you're asking the club to sign players who aren't good enough - just to make the numbers up.

It doesn't work like that. If the club don't find a player that (a) is good enough and (b) is not in excess of the what they value the player at - then they don't go for them. That's perfectly understandable. You can't just buy a player who is good enough and cheap enough, if that player isn't actually available.
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Re: Our subs bench

Post by SGr » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:28 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:No

I responded to somebody posting that we played poor. That first half performance was better than our second half performance at Chelsea last season. People need to get a grip...
Better than a second half in which we nearly blew a 3 goal lead against 9 men?

Bloody hell, must’ve been a masterclass...

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:29 pm

Very factual Frank.

Let’s just buy players not good enough for the sake of it...

If you want to look at value for money you should support United. I wouldn’t swap any of their defence for ours.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:30 pm

SGr wrote:Better than a second half in which we nearly blew a 3 goal lead against 9 men?

Bloody hell, must’ve been a masterclass...
You seem intelligent.... :shock:

Wha point are u making? You agree we’ve improved this season then?

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:33 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Ha ha. Judging a guy on his first full competitive game for months. I bet Walters was glad of your support from the stands in turkey....
It was a valid question though.

Where’s Walts ?

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by SGr » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:34 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:You seem intelligent.... :shock:

Wha point are u making? You agree we’ve improved this season then?
You countered someone’s point, which was that we played poorly today, with the argument that we played better in the first half, than we did in a half of football (that occurred last season) in which we ended up playing against 9 men, and conceded two goals.

Forgive me, but that seems like clutching at straws. :?

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:52 pm

SGr wrote:You countered someone’s point, which was that we played poorly today, with the argument that we played better in the first half, than we did in a half of football (that occurred last season) in which we ended up playing against 9 men, and conceded two goals.

Forgive me, but that seems like clutching at straws. :?
Nope. Still don’t get your point.

Comparing a game at the start of last season to this is not clutching at straws. Anybody with half a clue about football will see that we have progressed as a team since last season. It is an evolution where we now have to change the team more with extra games. The first 60 mins at Southampton and the first half today are arguably better than our start to last season in terms of how we played.
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Re: Our subs bench

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:55 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Something that a lot of people fail to realise. It's all very well saying we should have gone out and bought this, that and the other - but you're basically also asking the club to spend more money than they value the player at (because obviously, they would have otherwise made an offer) and quite probably, you're asking the club to sign players who aren't good enough - just to make the numbers up.

It doesn't work like that. If the club don't find a player that (a) is good enough and (b) is not in excess of the what they value the player at - then they don't go for them. That's perfectly understandable. You can't just buy a player who is good enough and cheap enough, if that player isn't actually available.
So what the hell was Nahki Wells then? A perfect example of signing someone who isn't good enough just for the sake of it.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:06 pm

jrgbfc wrote:So what the hell was Nahki Wells then? A perfect example of signing someone who isn't good enough just for the sake of it.
No - this is somebody who was signed 'just in case'. In case we got injuries and he was needed.
But what happens? You get people who can suddenly see into the future and after the event, say he wasn't needed.

It's like Hart now playing every game this season and coming out with, "We should have sold Heaton and Pope - we didn't need a keeper on the bench".

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by bfccrazy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:13 pm

FactualFrank wrote:No - this is somebody who was signed 'just in case'. In case we got injuries and he was needed.
But what happens? You get people who can suddenly see into the future and after the event, say he wasn't needed.

It's like Hart now playing every game this season and coming out with, "We should have sold Heaton and Pope - we didn't need a keeper on the bench".
So we had players actually out - and still didn’t sign a replacement.... but signed players “just in case” for a position we had back up in ..... great logic.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:19 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Bring brady defour and Vydra into the mix and it’s a different story. Stop over reacting.
Defour is a big loss, a loss that we should have looked at replacing in the transfer window.
We are desperate for a quality play maker in centre mid to play alongside Cork. Cork is a one man band, he can't do it on his own

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:19 pm

bfccrazy wrote:So we had players actually out - and still didn’t sign a replacement.... but signed players “just in case” for a position we had back up in ..... great logic.
Logic? Not sure how that comes into it.

We bought who we could buy. If the players out there that (a) are good enough for our starting 11 and (b) are in our price range, value wise, are not available - then guess what? Yes - we have to bring in players as backup.

Some people need to accept the fact that this isn't Football/Championship Manager.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:20 pm

Top Claret wrote:Defour is a big loss, a loss that we should have looked at replacing in the transfer window.
Where is the evidence that we didn't look to buy in that position? Maybe - just maybe, there wasn't anybody available that were good enough, in our price range?

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:24 pm

We are undoubtedly shorter on numbers that we and dyche would like us to be but you can’t just buy players for the sake of it.

The one which is a bit strange is the clucas one. You’d have thought if that was purely down to wages we’d have known about that before we agreed a fee.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:25 pm

Ifs buts and may bes aren't good enough. Defours fitness issues are always a problem, we should have been looking for a replacement for him 12 months ago.

If we tried to find his replacement we haven't tried hard enough

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by bfccrazy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:29 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Logic? Not sure how that comes into it.

We bought who we could buy. If the players out there that (a) are good enough for our starting 11 and (b) are in our price range, value wise, are not available - then guess what? Yes - we have to bring in players as backup.

Some people need to accept the fact that this isn't Football/Championship Manager.
Maybe they wouldn’t be out of our price range if we had the extra 7/8 mil that Wells will cost us .....

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:30 pm

bfccrazy wrote:Maybe they wouldn’t be out of our price range if we had the extra 7/8 mil that Wells will cost us .....
Well no, because Wells would have come in afterwards...

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by bfccrazy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:31 pm

Wells came in after we sold Arfield and Brady got injured?

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:31 pm

It's unbelievable that people are still trying to defend the Nahki Wells signing. It looked bizarre at the time, and it has proven to be an absolute stinker. It speaks volumes that there hasn't even been any Championship clubs interested in taking him off our hands this summer.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by bfccrazy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:34 pm

jrgbfc wrote:It's unbelievable that people are still trying to defend the Nahki Wells signing. It looked bizarre at the time, and it has proven to be an absolute stinker. It speaks volumes that there hasn't even been any Championship clubs interested in taking him off our hands this summer.
I know it isn’t something to really judge a player on usually but even at Curzon pre season he didn’t shine in a game you’d think he would want to bag 10.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Stayingup » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:34 pm

KRBFC wrote:Heaton, Taylor, Vokes, Barnes, Gibson, Long, Bardsley.

Not a midfielder or a winger in sight
I noticed that. But who then would you have put on the bench? Actually looking back I wish we'd started with two or three of them.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:35 pm

jrgbfc wrote:It's unbelievable that people are still trying to defend the Nahki Wells signing. It looked bizarre at the time, and it has proven to be an absolute stinker. It speaks volumes that there hasn't even been any Championship clubs interested in taking him off our hands this summer.
Wells was simply a backup signing. What's not to understand? He's better than we have in the youth and so was the only thing we could have done. I'm surprised that people are up in arms about it. Yet these very same posters would have been complaining had injuries happened to our front men and we had no striker on the bench. It's very basic stuff.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by Stayingup » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:36 pm

Goody1975 wrote:The first areas that needed attention when the transfer window opened, the three signings we made are excellent but an out and out central midfielder and left winger were priority, especially if we progress to the group stages of the Europa League.
Absolutely

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by bfccrazy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:38 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Wells was simply a backup signing. What's not to understand? He's better than we have in the youth and so was the only thing we could have done. I'm surprised that people are up in arms about it. Yet these very same posters would have been complaining had injuries happened to our front men and we had no striker on the bench. It's very basic stuff.

We had players at the time of the Wells signing who could adequately cover those positions - we then let go a winger whilst another was/is injured and didn’t sign back up there and are currently playing a left back there.

What’s not to understand?

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Post by Stayingup » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:38 pm

BigChaCha wrote:SD knew before the summer that Brady and Defour would take a long while to get up to speed and wouldn't be available for a considerable time. He also knew when he bought Vydra that he'd had an operation in the summer and again would take a while to get up to the fitness and form required!

The OP is spot on .....

..... We should have had 2 or 3 quality wingers/midfielders on the bench today that were bought in over the summer to give us more options.
True but even so we are just not putting the ball in the net.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:44 pm

bfccrazy wrote:We had players at the time of the Wells signing who could adequately cover those positions - we then let go a winger whilst another was/is injured and didn’t sign back up there and are currently playing a left back there.

What’s not to understand?
No we didn't. We had target men which Wells isn't. We needed another option. We didn't have one, so SD brought in Wells in case he was needed. Now have you had enough of bashing SD because that's all you ever seem to do. Any opportunity to bash Sean Dyche - you're there!!!

If you don't like the way we are run as a club - feck off and support another club.

And you're on the Foe list, so fortunately, I won't have to explain basic things to you from now on.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by bfccrazy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:48 pm

FactualFrank wrote:No we didn't. We had target men which Wells isn't. We needed another option. We didn't have one, so SD brought in Wells in case he was needed. Now have you had enough of bashing SD because that's all you ever seem to do. Any opportunity to bash Sean Dyche - you're there!!!

If you don't like the way we are run as a club - feck off and support another club.

And you're on the Foe list, so fortunately, I won't have to explain basic things to you from now on.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I don’t know where you find me bashing Dyche all the time?

Ah well, guess you can’t grasp the concept of not replacing players you know are out long term/moves on before buying more “just in case players” ..... FACT.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:48 pm

Ha ha! Oh dear.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by bfccrazy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:52 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Ha ha! Oh dear.
You’re still here?

:lol: :lol:

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:53 pm

bfccrazy wrote:You’re still here?
:lol: :lol:
No.
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Re: Our subs bench

Post by bfccrazy » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:58 pm

FactualFrank wrote:No.
It’s actually a bit weird you have told me i’m on your foe list - yet you still want to converse. It’s like a girl saying “i’m going to delete your phone number” then messaging you on snapchat instead.

Just buy me a drink before next home game bbz, it’ll be less creepy.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by TVC15 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:59 pm

To be honest I thought myself how few options we had on the bench today when we brought on a left back as our third sub when we were chasing the game.
That does not mean I am over reacting at one defeat - its just shows that our injuries are having a real impact on the depth of the squad. If Brady, Defour and Vydra were all fit they would all be on the bench or in the first eleven.

But as it is Defour could be out for a lot longer (and even when back he will continue to pick up injuries) ; Brady has not played for a long time and Vydra is unproven in this league. Walters and Wells have not featured at all the last 2 games and if Dyche does not consider either of them good enough as an option off the bench then we do seem to be thin on the ground with attacking options or players who can influence a game where we are behind.

But its fine margins - we could have easily been 2-1 or 3-1 up at half time today and I thought we played well. If that would have been the case then we would not all be analysing the lack of options on the bench.

Second half was as poor as I have seen us play in a long while but the Europa cup is definitely having a physical and mental impact on our players and its no co-incidence that we have not had 2 poor second halfs after actually 2 very good first halfs.

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Re: Our subs bench

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:02 pm

bfccrazy wrote:Just buy me a drink before next home game bbz, it’ll be less creepy.
Deal. I'll need some contact details so I know who you are.
And this is your version of being "less creepy", right?

Prove it.

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