Relegation odds

[willsclarets]

We are only 11/4 to get relegated this season on oddschecker, behind Huddersfield and Cardiff. Mental odds considering where we came last year, and you'd be mad to take that bet I think. But I don't like it when the bookies are against you!

[tim_noone]

We are only 11/4 to get relegated this season on oddschecker, behind Huddersfield and Cardiff. Mental odds considering where we came last year, and you'd be mad to take that bet I think. But I don't like it when the bookies are against you!

What price west ham?

[warksclaret]

If Vydra can find the net, and Defour & Brady return quicly and show good form we will be OK. Until then our lack of creativity and goals is our biggest challenge. Teams in the PL are much stronger this season-Everton, Bournemouth, Brighton, Palace, probably Saints,Leicester. All teams we finished above

Both Wolves and Fulham look strong promoted teams. You soon run out of teams who you feel will finish up behind us

[Tall Paul]

What price west ham?

6/1 are the best odds available, as is the 11/4 quoted in the OP. Some bookies have us as short as 2/1.

[Devils_Advocate]

West Ham / Burnley double at them odds looks a good bet

[Tall Paul]

If Vydra can find the net, and Defour & Brady return quicly and show good form we will be OK. Until then our lack of creativity and goals is our biggest challenge. Teams in the PL are much stronger this season-Everton, Bournemouth, Brighton, Palace, probably Saints,Leicester. All teams we finished above

Both Wolves and Fulham look strong promoted teams. You soon run out of teams who you feel will finish up behind us

I have Newcastle and Southampton as teams we should finish above, along with the two odds on favourites, Huddersfield & Cardiff. Possibly Fulham as well.

[Spijed]

If Vydra can find the net, and Defour & Brady return quicly and show good form we will be OK. Until then our lack of creativity and goals is our biggest challenge. Teams in the PL are much stronger this season-Everton, Bournemouth, Brighton, Palace, probably Saints,Leicester. All teams we finished above

Both Wolves and Fulham look strong promoted teams. You soon run out of teams who you feel will finish up behind us

"The league is much stronger this season" - that old chestnut.

So far, Southampton look poor, Brighton are only good at home, Fulham & Wolves both seem to have poor defences.

As for West Ham....

[Tall Paul]

West Ham / Burnley double at them odds looks a good bet

You can't do it as a double at those odds.

[Devils_Advocate]

Fair enough don't think it would happen but 15-1ish would be a decent price

[tim_noone]

West ham for me the club is in total disarray.the ownership are devoid of any ideas of what to do.only foreign investment and new owners could save them. But gold and Sullivan appear to be stubborn old buggers.

[tim_noone]

You can't do it as a double at those odds.

Surely about 20/1

[Tall Paul]

Surely about 20/1

You'd have to request the bet, it's not possible to do an accumulator as they're not independent events. I expect you'd get longer odds than that given that you can do Burnley/West Ham/Cardiff at 80/1.

[tim_noone]

Substitute Brighton for Burnley.

[Tall Paul]

Substitute Brighton for Burnley.

100/1

They're all here
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[Damo]

If you think it's short, lay odds slightly longer. You could be squids in
*edit to change squids to quids but squids seems better

[LoveCurryPies]

Does anyone every consider undermining confidence (both fans and players) is more likely to lead to failure? OP needs to grow a pair.

[warksclaret]

YEs Spijed-that old chestnut. WE beat Watford easily over two games last year. On Sunday in the second half they played us off the park. I had them down as one of my three to go down until then Don't think their keeper had to make a single save in the second half. Palace looked a class act last night against a very fancied Liverpool team .Last year they went the first 5-6 games without scoring and Fulham will prove to be very strong competition on Sunday, For me just two poor teams this year Huddersfield and Cardiff
I am not having a go at our team but the PL is now attracting the worlds best coaches and money from the PL is making sure teams are ever strengthening

[ClaretAndJew]

If the season didn't get difficult year on year you'd still have Bolton in the europa league places.

[Tall Paul]

YEs Spijed-that old chestnut. WE beat Watford easily over two games last year. On Sunday in the second half they played us off the park.

Neither of those things are true.

[Likeavydra]

if u get relegated do they bury a coffin at bamber bridge?

[Spijed]

YEs Spijed-that old chestnut. WE beat Watford easily over two games last year. On Sunday in the second half they played us off the park. I had them down as one of my three to go down until then Don't think their keeper had to make a single save in the second half. Palace looked a class act last night against a very fancied Liverpool team .Last year they went the first 5-6 games without scoring and Fulham will prove to be very strong competition on Sunday, For me just two poor teams this year Huddersfield and Cardiff
I am not having a go at our team but the PL is now attracting the worlds best coaches and money from the PL is making sure teams are ever strengthening

Aside from Chelsea & Arsenal who else has got a better manager? Don't see much difference from last season in that respect.

As for Watford, they just sat back in the second half. It's ALWAYS been an issue for us trying to break teams down if we go behind. That's why Everton & Watford were the only instances of us coming from behind in a game to win the match.

[JTClaret]

I don't think anything has changed for a few seasons now.

There will be teams nobody thinks about who will do well, and a couple of teams who have shockers despite big reputations.
Watford are a decent side. They fell apart last season after the whole Silva thing, but prior to that they were getting better and better - We could have beat them in the first half, didn't, and they beat us. Win against Fulham and suddenly everything is fine again.

Usually, promoted teams bar 1 struggle and 1 manager has a shocker at an 'established' team.

[willsclarets]

Does anyone every consider undermining confidence (both fans and players) is more likely to lead to failure? OP needs to grow a pair.

You think my post stating bookies odds is going to impact our season? Spoon.
And my pair are just fine, thanks. I was merely interested to see how short the odds were is all, but well done in finding a way to criticise it for no apparent reason. Huge pair.

[Quicknick]

If Vydra can find the net, and Defour & Brady return quicly and show good form we will be OK. Until then our lack of creativity and goals is our biggest challenge. Teams in the PL are much stronger this season-Everton, Bournemouth, Brighton, Palace, probably Saints,Leicester. All teams we finished above

Both Wolves and Fulham look strong promoted teams. You soon run out of teams who you feel will finish up behind us

What a negative way to look at things. I feel confident we will come above most of the teams in that list.

[joey13]

Getting outclassed, by a poor Watford side hasn’t helped

[Spijed]

Getting outclassed, by a poor Watford side hasn’t helped

Poor?

[willsclarets]

There aren't any poor sides in the premier league, SD says it a lot but he's right; the margins are so tight at this level. We uncharacteristically switched off a couple of times, and that was it. Good night Vienna.

[claretspice]

Not sure anything has changed from pre-season.

We should finish somewhere between 12 and 16, but there's always a possibility of finishing higher and the risk of finishing lower. The margins across the bottom 12-13 teams in the league are so fine that momentum and a bit of luck can change anything.

Not a lot has changed as a result of one bad result last Sunday.

[Tall Paul]

Poor?

Outclassed?

[bartons baggage]

if u get relegated do they bury a coffin at bamber bridge?

hmmm likeasaxo you're still extremely dull.

[joey13]

Outclassed?

Watford

[boatshed bill]

"The league is much stronger this season" - that old chestnut.

So far, Southampton look poor, Brighton are only good at home, Fulham & Wolves both seem to have poor defences.

As for West Ham and us....

Sorry, couldn't resist editing that post. I know it's naughty and I am prepared for hell