Olympiakos v Burnley

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by burnley007 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:57 pm

Proper European referee.
Barnes shouldn't play in Europe, he stands no chance

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:59 pm

Away goal and only 2 goals to get.... should not be out of the question back at the Turf. Our lack of form is getting a little worrying. I know we traditionally start the season slowly, but still seems very little spark at the moment.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Clevedon Claret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:59 pm

Tough result to swallow, having said that, we CAN do them at Turf Moor.

Big respect to the traveling Clarets, have a safe night lads n lasses.

Night all.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Clevedon Claret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:00 pm

Tough result to swallow, having said that, we CAN do them at Turf Moor.

Big respect to the traveling Clarets, have a safe night lads n lasses.

Night all.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Rumbletonk » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:00 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:or you mean people that have a different opinion to yours ?
Its the childish over the top reactions to every defeat that gets people wound up. If you havent got used to Burnley losing some football matches then there's something wrong with you. Its the end of the world, our manager is clueless and the players are crap. Grow up.

Take them back to ours and do them 2 nil. Well within our capability
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by leightonjameslegend » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:00 pm

Nonayforever wrote:Changing the back 5 has FA to do with a defender deliberately handballing and elbowing a forward off the ball.
That’s why most managers especially Dyche don’t change them! They need to be a well oiled, in tune unit. You need your spine at the very least. The first goal Heaton was marshaling an unfamiliar line and was never happy. 2nd goal Gibson seemed to be covering for Taylor, who isn’t the regular left back. The penalty you could call unlucky. But our defense which we can usually depend on has not met their usual high standards in 2 back to back games. Coincidence?!

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Clevedon Claret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:04 pm

Tough result to swallow, having said that, we CAN do them at Turf Moor.

Big respect to the traveling Clarets, have a safe night lads n lasses.

Night all.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:04 pm

Thought we were well beaten by a decent team.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:08 pm

You can certainly tell why the soft thick kid in a group was called a joey

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by otto1959 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:08 pm

leightonjameslegend wrote:That’s why most managers especially Dyche don’t change them! They need to be a well oiled, in tune unit. You need your spine at the very least. The first goal Heaton was marshaling an unfamiliar line and was never happy. 2nd goal Gibson seemed to be covering for Taylor, who isn’t the regular left back. The penalty you could call unlucky. But our defense which we can usually depend on has not met their usual high standards in 2 back to back games. Coincidence?!

I'm not from the spelling police, however as ex Military, could you spell defence with a c. Thank's.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by joey13 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:12 pm

piston broke wrote:**** off you ******.
Oh dear , maybe a messageboard isn’t for you

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:12 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:Its the childish over the top reactions to every defeat that gets people wound up. If you havent got used to Burnley losing some football matches then there's something wrong with you. Its the end of the world, our manager is clueless and the players are crap. Grow up.

Take them back to ours and do them 2 nil. Well within our capability
I still haven't got used to us winning after all those years of losing !!

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by burnley007 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:13 pm

Proper European referee.
Barnes shouldn't play in Europe, he stands no chance

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:13 pm

We were well beaten by a team thrown together over the last few months.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they beat us in the second leg as well. We’ve started the season just like we ended the last one.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by otto1959 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:13 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:You can certainly tell why the soft thick kid in a group was called a joey
Needs removing, one way or another.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:13 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Were you at the Somme?
No. Everyone who served in the First World War has now passed away. It is just a figure of speech

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:13 pm

otto1959 wrote:I'm not from the spelling police, however as ex Military, could you spell defence with a c. Thank's.
Lovely stuff!

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by joey13 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:14 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:You can certainly tell why the soft thick kid in a group was called a joey
I suggest you read Barton’s book , it may change your mind

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:16 pm

joey13 wrote:Don’t read the board if it bothers you that much
You don’t need to worry, I’ll live however much people like to troll this board. I enjoy the difference of opinion and open debate on here, but I can’t stand trolls and I’ll call them out every time because the board is a better place when it’s not being trolled.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Rumbletonk » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:17 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:I still haven't got used to us winning after all those years of losing !!
Just turn those frowns upsidedown

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Rumbletonk » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:19 pm

joey13 wrote:Oh dear , maybe a messageboard isn’t for you
Maybe football isn't for you if you can't take a defeat

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by dermotdermot » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:20 pm

otto1959 wrote:Have to agree, gave him too much to aim at. I think we have a future gem in Gibson though.
You spoke too soon.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Steddyman » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:20 pm

I thought we were excellent in the first half especially after they scored.

Sucker punch for them to get two quick goals in succession and us a red card but after that we closed up shop and were unlucky not to get a second.

Not going to be easy in the 2nd leg but certainly not out of reach.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by joey13 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:20 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:You don’t need to worry, I’ll live however much people like to troll this board. I enjoy the difference of opinion and open debate on here, but I can’t stand trolls and I’ll call them out every time because the board is a better place when it’s not being trolled.
So a troll is someone who has a different view point ?
If you want to meet up for a beer Sunday to discuss ?
:)

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by bf2k » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:21 pm

joey13 wrote:Don’t read the board if it bothers you that much
What pathetic and immature post.

Bring back the old board and posters who knew how to have a level conversation and debate :roll:

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Tribesmen » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:22 pm

Yer hard one to take but not the end of the road as we will beat this lot at the Turf , now just depends on how many .

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by joey13 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:22 pm

bf2k wrote:What pathetic and immature post.

Bring back the old board and posters who knew how to have a level conversation and debate :roll:
What like telling someone to F off

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:22 pm

Our penalty was a tad soft and their's was a pi**ing joke!! Which means the sending off was absolutely ridiculous!!! Ref's a kn*b and not up to the required standard!

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:23 pm

joey13 wrote:So a troll is someone who has a different view point ?
If you want to meet up for a beer Sunday to discuss ?
:)
No, a troll is someone who clearly makes inflammatory statements to get a reaction. Happy to meet up for a drink (I don’t drink beer though) but it will have to be before the Man Utd game, I’m not going to Fulham, and I’ll have a nervous 8 year old Autsitic step son with me next Thursday so cant do then.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:26 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Our penalty was a tad soft and their's was a pi**ing joke!! Which means the sending off was absolutely ridiculous!!! Ref's a kn*b and not up to the required standard!
both definite pens, extraordinarily rare to not be booked for handball in the box for the last 10 years - ref didn't really have a choice
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:27 pm

Steddyman wrote:I thought we were excellent in the first half especially after they scored.

Sucker punch for them to get two quick goals in succession and us a red card but after that we closed up shop and were unlucky not to get a second.

Not going to be easy in the 2nd leg but certainly not out of reach.

UTC
Sums it up succinctly Steddyman,an early goal at the turf will put us right back in the tie,important not to concede again in the final half-hour,gives us a chance still,be tough though.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by joey13 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:30 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:No, a troll is someone who clearly makes inflammatory statements to get a reaction. Happy to meet up for a drink (I don’t drink beer though) but it will have to be before the Man Utd game, I’m not going to Fulham, and I’ll have a nervous 8 year old Autsitic step son with me next Thursday so cant do then.
Not to worry, I’m only at the Fulham game maybe another time, l don’t make inflammatory statements to get a reaction, but anyone would react to being told to F off , yet I’m made out to be the bad guy .

Oh well might be best if I do F off if I’m upsetting other posters

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:32 pm

I thought we were good in the first half

Too slow off the blocks in the second and no problem with the pen, but the two yellows for Gibson were harsh.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Rumbletonk » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:33 pm

Steddyman wrote:I thought we were excellent in the first half especially after they scored.

Sucker punch for them to get two quick goals in succession and us a red card but after that we closed up shop and were unlucky not to get a second.

Not going to be easy in the 2nd leg but certainly not out of reach.

UTC
The voice of reason. I thought we were unlucky with the pen but it is what it is. It will be difficult but its hardly an impossible task

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Joe14 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:33 pm

Anyone back yet?
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Flat Stanley » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:34 pm

Thought we played one decent half again. Seems all we can manage at the moment. Started the 2nd half slowly just like against Watford and it cost us again. Defence looks shaky from set plays at the moment whoever is playing and overall not as solid as last season. Not sure why. Second half were outclassed by a better team on the night. We were lucky it was not 4 or 5. At least we have a chance now at the Turf. 2 is possible, 3 0 would have been very unlikely. We need to play our strongest team though or we will be out. That lot tonight won't cut it. We are desperate for creativity. Without Defour we struggle for any sort of transition from midfield to attack. Hopefully Vydra and Brady will improve things in the next few games.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Blackrod » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:39 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:We won’t score 2 at Turf Moor when we never manage a ******* shot.
It will be tough and I think we will need to score early. If we are huffing and puffing at 60 minutes at 0-0 that will be it. It is not impossible though and we have a chance. At 4-1 down we wouldn't have. I fancy them to score at Turf Moor if we don't play the regular tested back four.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by beeholeclaret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:45 pm

Disappointed as anybody else on here that we couldn't keep the deficit to just one goal but we still have a chance if we can up our performance at Turf and get an early goal. We still have to keep things tight at Turf and with Dyche's game management tactics he would still feel we are in with a shout if its 0-0 well into the second half. I usually get mad at refereeing decisions but I dont think we can have too much to complain about tonight really. The Gibson bookings were a bit soft but all 3 goals came from naive challenges / handball situations which in another game might've been avoided?

I generally enjoy catching up with Clarets news on here and there are some great threads and informative and amusing comments from some fantastic Burnley supporters. However most visits now end with me shaking my head in disbelief at some of the deliberately provocative negative comments from people who might as well support our opponents each week. Constructive criticism is to be expected and even pessimism as life is like that with everyone having different outlooks. As one of them said above "Don’t read the board if it bothers you that much". He is right I wont. Maybe I'm the naive one logging on here to read interesting views and turning off when quality threads turn into childish squabbles. Clarets Mad got like this so I stopped visiting. As he says maybe message boards aren't for me either.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Claretrew » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:06 pm

We were the better team first half and like everyone else I thought we started to slowly in the second. Overall I thought the ref had a decent game although Gibson 1st yellow was harsh. Linesmen got it wrong with wood through on goal. Pleased Wood got the penalty hopefully he can kick on from there and we shouldn't male the same stupid defensive errors at the turf.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:23 pm

joey13 wrote:So a troll is someone who has a different view point ?
If you want to meet up for a beer Sunday to discuss ?
:)
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:31 pm

Disappointing result, but we live and breathe. We need to make some noise next Thursday, the players aren't going to turn this without us.

For the Trolls, you know who you are, everyone is disappointed, not everyone is blaming the manager, blaming the tactics, blaming individual players. If you can't take a defeat without spitting your dummies football, and in particular Burnley, aren't for you. You could try supporting Citeh, a VERY successful team who rarely lose.
Coming on board to share your disappointment is fine, coming on here to spout your anger and bile is childish and serves no purpose other than to **** off other users. We are Burnley not Barcelona, defeat is an occupational hazard, it requires little inquest.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by bf2k » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:35 pm

joey13 wrote:What like telling someone to F off
You referring to one of my posts? Not sure I've told someone to "f" off

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by JarrowClaret » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:26 pm

Wow I haven’t seen the game or listened any of it but I guess it was difficult and I expected us too lose but had hoped we would score. Let’s be clear we aren’t playing European minnows here they had won there League 7 times on the trot up till last season. I listened to a Greek Football expert earlier this Week and when asked about playing Burnley his response was Olympiacos HAVE to reach the group stages there are no other options. Said it all too me not seen the teams but my impression is that they would play there first team while we will play a team that maybe half are our normal first team. We could overturn this deficit if we prioritize the second leg I don’t think we will sadly the teams we have picked in pretty every game in the comp suggests as much. I don’t agree I think we should live in the here and now and try and go as far as possible but i’m Not going to argue with the decision that is made we all have too make choices and not all you agree with.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:35 pm

To put tonight into some perspective this from the BBC HYS- :That team has beaten Liverpool, Arsenal (3 times), Manchester United, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Juventus, just to name a few, at the same ground over the last few years in the Champions League. Learn your facts.:

That's a formidable home record,however they are dogger away,especially in England,which gives us half a shout with the away goal.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by piston broke » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:45 pm

bf2k wrote:You referring to one of my posts? Not sure I've told someone to "f" off
I can claim that, bf2k and if I get a ban I’ll live with it.
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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by IanMcL » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:47 pm

Apologies for not posting the match thread, before leaving for the match. Went by metro and arrived in one piece, only to be escorted by stewards and guards to the entrance. The long wait and journey back on club coaches, took so long, the metro was closed! Walked back to hotel!

Madge is less than pleased at the ref.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by piston broke » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:47 pm

tiger76 wrote:To put tonight into some perspective this from the BBC HYS- :That team has beaten Liverpool, Arsenal (3 times), Manchester United, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Juventus, just to name a few, at the same ground over the last few years in the Champions League. Learn your facts.:

That's a formidable home record,however they are dogger away,especially in England,which gives us half a shout with the away goal.
That is so typical of the Beeb. Olympiakos have beaten them teams but not that team. That team were average but we made them look good. If we turn up next week we will get through.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by Long Time Lurker » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:49 pm

I thought the lads did reasonably well overall. They put in a solid first half, dipped when they came out for the second and then dug deep to keep them at bay with 10 men. We seemed to be pretty evenly matched and its often said that a moment of quality can separate two sides in such games. However, it is also true that moments of sloppy inadequacy can make a big difference as well.

That was our undoing. We gift wrapped the opportunities for all three of their goals. The free kick off Bardsley (aided by the wall building farrago), the free kick leading to a header for their second and then the hand it over penalty that lead to their third. The sending off was a bit harsh, but being on a yellow Gibson should have been a little more restrained and savvy.

The game was very similar to the Watford game in that we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory because we made a couple of silly errors that proved to be very costly. If we can tighten things up a bit and add some goals then we could do well this season.

I thought Kevin Long had another good game. He looked very tidy and made a couple of excellent interventions.

Its a tough result to take and hopefully some important lessons have been learned. That extra goal they nicked from the penalty leaves us with an uphill climb, but it's not beyond us. We always seem to play better when we are up against it or we are being labelled as the underdogs.

Our seventh placed finish was very well deserved last season, but we haven't established ourselves as the perenial best of the rest team yet. We are starting out from scratch again this season with everything to prove and a couple of heavy wake up calls might be just what we need to kick on and move forward.

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by joey13 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:58 am

bf2k wrote:You referring to one of my posts? Not sure I've told someone to "f" off
No wasn’t referring to one of your posts

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Re: Olympiakos v Burnley

Post by joey13 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:59 am

Billy Balfour wrote:
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A genuine offer which unfortunately couldn’t be accepted and you post that , well done

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