Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:14 pm

Waving a rival flag around in a foreign country is still a dickish thing to do.

No personal tragedy alters that.
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Vizeh » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:15 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Don’t read the rest of the thread vizeh.
You and that flag caused no end of trouble. Apparently.
I saw parts of it and just got confused, the photo was took literally in the main center where all the Burnley fans are. A Greek man that was a fan of Panathinaikos was giving the flag to many people to hold and take photos of us with it. Embracing their culture.

People which yet again have no context of the situation made it look like we was walking around the entirety of Athens with it. Which is not the case at all, That was the only time I even touched that flag and it's unfortunate that it got spreaded across all of social media the way it has. When it literally was to show Burnley fans were in Greece haha.
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Vizeh » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:16 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Waving a rival flag around in a foreign country is still a dickish thing to do.

No personal tragedy alters that.
Read the latest post of the reasons behind that flag photo.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:18 pm

Vizeh wrote:Read the latest post of the reasons behind that flag photo.
I'll just come out and say it...

I don't believe you.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Vizeh » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:20 pm

fidelcastro wrote:I'll just come out and say it...

I don't believe you.
Was you there? Did you see video evidence of me holding it anywhere else but from this photo?

That's no then.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:23 pm

Vizeh wrote:Was you there? Did you see video evidence of me holding it anywhere else but from this photo?

That's no then.
Firstly, it's "Were you there?"

Secondly, it's just an opinion, based on your back catalogue.

I could be wrong of course, but if waving rival flags floats your boat, then knock yourself out. :roll:

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by NottsClaret » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:27 pm

You'll never win on here Vizeh. Grumpy old men aren't generally keen on young lads going out and having fun.

Anyway, where's your Cardiff Vlog, it's nearly 5 o'clock?

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Vizeh » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:28 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Firstly, it's "Were you there?"

Secondly, it's just an opinion, based on your back catalogue.

I could be wrong of course, but if waving rival flags floats your boat, then knock yourself out. :roll:
Firstly, Ok cheers Mr Dictionary

Secondly, you're basing your opinion on me on nothing but your own ignorance. Feel free to think that way.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Leisure » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:29 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Firstly, it's "Were you there?"

Secondly, it's just an opinion, based on your back catalogue.

I could be wrong of course, but if waving rival flags floats your boat, then knock yourself out. :roll:
An opinion, so not factual at all!

PS - would that be a biased opinion???
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:34 pm

Leisure wrote:An opinion, so not factual at all!

PS - would that be a biased opinion???
I never claimed it was factual. That's why I used the word "opinion" :roll:

Everyone believes their opinion is right though. That's why it's called an opinion.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Dyched » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:35 pm

Who got stabbed then?

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:42 pm

Vizeh wrote:Firstly, Ok cheers Mr Dictionary

Secondly, you're basing your opinion on me on nothing but your own ignorance. Feel free to think that way.
Did you not in a recent podcast which was broadcast on facebook state that everyone in Burnley was in benefits, when asked if you didnt do what you were doing now what would you be doing.

Did you not base that opinion on your own ignorance?

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by theroyaldyche » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:48 pm

Dyched wrote:Who got stabbed then?
Ginge

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Vizeh » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:51 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Did you not in a recent podcast which was broadcast on facebook state that everyone in Burnley was in benefits, when asked if you didnt do what you were doing now what would you be doing.

Did you not base that opinion on your own ignorance?
It was a joke mate aha, it was a light-hearted show ran by The Sportman where it was me and a few lads in the pub with a pint. Literally instantly I said it as a joke and didn't mean it seriously. If you're intending of using that as something against me then there's literally no point in this conversation.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:52 pm

Vizeh wrote:It was a joke mate aha, it was a light-hearted show ran by The Sportman where it was me and a few lads in the pub with a pint. Literally instantly I said it as a joke and didn't mean it seriously. If you're intending of using that as something against me then there's literally no point in this conversation.
Joking about people being on benefits?

Must've been hilarious :roll:

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by MiltonKeynesClaret93 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:54 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Joking about people being on benefits?

Must've been hilarious :roll:
Cut the lad some slack for christ's sake...

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:58 pm

Didnt come across as light hearted. It came across as insulting

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by d1sc0 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:05 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Firstly, it's "Were you there?"

Secondly, it's just an opinion, based on your back catalogue.

I could be wrong of course, but if waving rival flags floats your boat, then knock yourself out. :roll:
Firstly..... It's s football forum not an English exam. The moment you bring any form of grammer police into it you lose the argument. Nothing more to be said. Or Typod'''' incowrongly;
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Leisure » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:17 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Didnt come across as light hearted. It came across as insulting
Who was insulted? Was that just your opinion? Surely you can't have been insulted as from your username you're not even from Burnley!
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by claretrobo1 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:18 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Joking about people being on benefits?

Must've been hilarious :roll:
Oh ffs has anyone ever heard of a joke on this forum?

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Leisure » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:20 pm

claretrobo1 wrote:Oh ffs has anyone ever heard of a joke on this forum?
Apparently some haven't. Far too sensitive some folk!

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by bfcmatt » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:41 pm

Some absolute full on cock wombles on this site.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:17 pm

Leisure wrote:Who was insulted? Was that just your opinion? Surely you can't have been insulted as from your username you're not even from Burnley!
He’ll be insulted on behalf of everyone in Burnley who he probably represents!

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Greenmile » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:22 pm

d1sc0 wrote:Firstly..... It's s football forum not an English exam. The moment you bring any form of grammer police into it you lose the argument. Nothing more to be said. Or Typod'''' incowrongly;
*grammar
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Lord Rothbury » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:29 pm

Good job some of you lot were not around in the 70,s and 80,s we would have been a laughing stock.Grammer /grammar what does it matter,Greenmile prat.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:31 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Don’t read the rest of the thread vizeh.
You and that flag caused no end of trouble. Apparently.
Still a naive / daft thing to do. But we have all been young and most of us have been naive and daft.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Claret eze » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:33 pm

Vizeh keep up the good work,you're a credit to burnley.
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:33 pm

Vizeh wrote:It means alot honestly, i've had alot of people of all ages from 10 to 80 years old tell me how much they enjoy them. I know it's a very very small minority and it is ever-growing that are against me, without knowing anything at all and make presumptions. which is fine they can have their opinion.
Envy / Jealousy / Prejudice. especially when unfounded are pretty sad traits. Fortunately it speaks more about the people who have them feelings...

I don't personally watch them, and its not my thing. BUT that doesnt mean you dont do a great job. Keep it up.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by thatdberight » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:50 pm

Greenmile wrote:*grammar
Logged in just to like...

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by bfcmik » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:03 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Waving a rival flag around in a foreign country is still a dickish thing to do.

No personal tragedy alters that.
Vizeh wrote:I saw parts of it and just got confused, the photo was took literally in the main center where all the Burnley fans are. A Greek man that was a fan of Panathinaikos was giving the flag to many people to hold and take photos of us with it. Embracing their culture.

People which yet again have no context of the situation made it look like we was walking around the entirety of Athens with it. Which is not the case at all, That was the only time I even touched that flag and it's unfortunate that it got spreaded across all of social media the way it has. When it literally was to show Burnley fans were in Greece haha.
I had Panathinaikos fans asking for selfies with me and my BFC shirt at the airport, on the train, during my walk to the hotel, during my walk to the meeting point. All very friendly - as were the, presumably, fans of Olympiacos and AEK who jeered us for doing so. No bad vibes at all during my whole 23 hours in the city!
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Greenmile » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:06 pm

thatdberight wrote:Logged in just to like...
Thank you. Sometimes the old 'uns are the best (imho).

Looks like it sailed over Lord Rothbury's head though.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Longside4evr » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:32 pm

bfcmik wrote:I had Panathinaikos fans asking for selfies with me and my BFC shirt at the airport, on the train, during my walk to the hotel, during my walk to the meeting point. All very friendly - as were the, presumably, fans of Olympiacos and AEK who jeered us for doing so. No bad vibes at all during my whole 23 hours in the city!
Different story on the metro after the game we got a right kicking

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by bfcmik » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:50 pm

Longside4evr wrote:Different story on the metro after the game we got a right kicking
Which is why people were advised to use the free official transport that was put on by the club. All the advice beforehand was that that is what happens after games in Pireaus.
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by burnleymik » Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:55 pm

Give the lad some slack. He isn't doing these things to be a dick and he certainly wasn't the reason for someone being stabbed.

It must be a miserable existence taking yourself and life so damned seriously all the time for some of you lot who post on here.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Dyched » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:00 pm

bfcmik wrote:I had Panathinaikos fans asking for selfies with me and my BFC shirt at the airport, on the train, during my walk to the hotel, during my walk to the meeting point. All very friendly - as were the, presumably, fans of Olympiacos and AEK who jeered us for doing so. No bad vibes at all during my whole 23 hours in the city!
It was a very stupid thing to do.

These Panathinaikos fans may have family/friends who are Olympiakos fans. It’ll be to wind them up. Pictures/stories can go around (start escalating easily) and before you know it some prats want to turn a few Burnley fans over for abit of revenge.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by burnleymik » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:18 pm

Dyched wrote:It was a very stupid thing to do.

These Panathinaikos fans may have family/friends who are Olympiakos fans. It’ll be to wind them up. Pictures/stories can go around (start escalating easily) and before you know it some prats want to turn a few Burnley fans over for abit of revenge.

I understand your point, but there was a good reason that Burnley fans were warned not to use the public transport systems or take unnecessary risks. These fans were already known to be violent and looking for trouble regardless of what any individual did or did not do.
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by tybfc » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:18 pm

bfcmik wrote:Which is why people were advised to use the free official transport that was put on by the club. All the advice beforehand was that that is what happens after games in Pireaus.
Mik - I booked a hotel for three of us in Piraeus and had no problems either the night before the game or the day / night of the match after we eventually reached the hotel in a taxi from the ground.

It was a tremendous afternoon in the square.

Anyone giving any Burnley fans stick needs to take a look at themselves.

There were hundreds of us in that square and not one ounce of trouble all afternoon.

It seems that most of the people posting on here giving retrospective advice were nowhere near Athens.
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:59 pm

tybfc wrote:Mik - I booked a hotel for three of us in Piraeus and had no problems either the night before the game or the day / night of the match after we eventually reached the hotel in a taxi from the ground.

It was a tremendous afternoon in the square.

Anyone giving any Burnley fans stick needs to take a look at themselves.

There were hundreds of us in that square and not one ounce of trouble all afternoon.

It seems that most of the people posting on here giving retrospective advice were nowhere near Athens.
But some were in Istanbul and saw how some of the clampets who ended up in situations had behaved there...

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Longside4evr » Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:20 pm

bfcmik wrote:Which is why people were advised to use the free official transport that was put on by the club. All the advice beforehand was that that is what happens after games in Pireaus.
We were staying in Pireaus on stop down on metro we are in our sixties and seventies you would have thought theses people had minds but obviously mindless

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by diamondpocket » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:17 pm

From the official info I read there was never any suggestion that Olympiakos fans were nutjobs and there was more likelihood of trouble than any other games in general. I thought the travel arrangements were provided more for fans to be able to get to and from the ground because of transport difficulties, i.e. Metro, after the game, like Istanbul that was difficult to reach esp. after the game.
I have never followed European games or teams so honestly didnt really have any idea of them being headcases to that extent.
With its tourist popularity and Piraeus being the main port for Athens I thought it'd have been quite tourist friendly but clearly wasn't.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by levraiclaret » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:02 pm

What we learned here, is that if you used the transport that the club provided (for free) you would not have had any problems even if you were wearing colours.
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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:21 am

levraiclaret wrote:What we learned here, is that if you used the transport that the club provided (for free) you would not have had any problems even if you were wearing colours.
The Greek people were wonderful all in all. Just a few nut job football supporters.
You would never of guessed from being out there all day before the game there could be trouble.

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Re: Burnley fan stabbed before the game.

Post by Grumps » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:04 am

You can walk through burnley without a hint of trouble most days, but see what happens if you walk round, posing for photos with a rovers flag....
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