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Post by Paul Waine » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:55 pm

Just looked at the Premier League table. We will be bottom 3 if we don't get at least a point tomorrow. :(

When was the last time Burnley were in the bottom 3 in Premier League?

Can't get to the game - always had another commitment if the game was moved to Sunday. Hoping for 3 points, of course.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:59 pm

I think we can get a draw tomorrow. I can't see a win, but think we can come away with something.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:15 pm

This time last year we were 13th, played 2 won 1 lost 1.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:29 pm

Need to start winning or we'll be left behind.

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Post by piston broke » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:30 pm

If results go right we can be eigth.
Far too early for looking at stuff like this. You need at least 6 games to know what level your opposition are likely to be at for the year.
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Post by mickleoverclaret » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:35 pm

With only 35 games to turn it around, panic stations.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:36 pm

I think once a team has played both twice at home and twice away in the league, that to me constitutes form. But of course, that can be temporary.

So tomorrow's game and home vs United before we have an idea of how things are going.

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Post by theroyaldyche » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:44 pm

Yawn

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:47 pm

PANIC

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Post by dermotdermot » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:48 pm

It’s a definite six pointer.

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Post by Top Claret » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:50 pm

It is a long season Manering

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Post by SGr » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:51 pm

Cardiff and Huddersfield need to be cut adrift.

0-0 today and Hudds went down to 10. Job becomes 10x easier if there’s effectively only one relegation spot to scrap to avoid.

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Post by joey13 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:58 pm

Personally thought Southampton were poor
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Post by Burtonwoodclaret » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:29 pm

I spent an enjoyable afternoon watching Huddersfield and Cardiff, A great atmosphere, lots of passion and with Huddersfield down to 10 men Cardiff put the pressure on , but to no avail. It finished goalless. I would fancy our chances of a double against either of them, but we would need some craft to get behind Cardiff's defenders. I can see us leading the middle group at the moment, but we do need strengthening , either by the returning players and/or some willingness to take a bit of a financial risk in January. and get a natural goal poacher.

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Post by piston broke » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:34 pm

we might already have a natural poacher in Vydra?

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Post by warksclaret » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:38 pm

I know its speculation after just a few games but our first run of games are very kind. We need to get points where possible. Our last 4 or 5 games of the season are horrendous

So far Cardiff, Huddersfield and Saints look like they could be in a dog fight. Seen enough to know Brighton, Wolves, Leicester,, Bournemouth, Everton, Watford, Palace, all capable of finishing in top 8 or 9 clubs. Very impressed with Brighton tonight

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:40 pm

warksclaret wrote:I know its speculation after just a few games but our first run of games are very kind. We need to get points where possible. Our last 4 or 5 games of the season are horrendous.
The thing with us, is we seem to collect points against the more difficult teams. And it's against the 'easier' opponents where we should at least be drawing, but we don't.

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Post by CoolClaret » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:40 pm

Palace had 0 points with 0 goals after 6 games.....

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Post by Spijed » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:09 pm

warksclaret wrote:I know its speculation after just a few games but our first run of games are very kind. We need to get points where possible. Our last 4 or 5 games of the season are horrendous

So far Cardiff, Huddersfield and Saints look like they could be in a dog fight. Seen enough to know Brighton, Wolves, Leicester,, Bournemouth, Everton, Watford, Palace, all capable of finishing in top 8 or 9 clubs. Very impressed with Brighton tonight
Brighton won't finish that high. They've played 2 away and lost 2. We finished 7th and only lost 5 away all season.

Their away form is simply not good enough to finish that high.

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Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:39 pm

Who else was disappointed that this thread didn’t mean that Rik Mayall was alive again and it was a new show...?
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Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:40 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Who else was disappointed that this thread didn’t mean that Rik Mayall was alive again and it was a new show...?
Watching the telly are you? Addling your brains? We're having an evening of culture and poetry and chess you know!
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Post by tiger76 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:48 pm

Burtonwoodclaret wrote:I spent an enjoyable afternoon watching Huddersfield and Cardiff, A great atmosphere, lots of passion and with Huddersfield down to 10 men Cardiff put the pressure on , but to no avail. It finished goalless. I would fancy our chances of a double against either of them, but we would need some craft to get behind Cardiff's defenders. I can see us leading the middle group at the moment, but we do need strengthening , either by the returning players and/or some willingness to take a bit of a financial risk in January. and get a natural goal poacher.
If you really think Burnley will be in a relegation battle,personally i thought Hudds and Cardiff sharing the spoils was a good result for everyone else,between the two of them they have managed 1 goal in 6 games,Huddersfield have scored once in 8 home matches,if these blanks continue for both they will be marooned by May.

Equally we are not exactly prolific ATM,we just need to grind a few results out until our long-term injuries return,whether the goals are from set-pieces or open play doesn't matter,but we have to put points on the board starting tomorrow,even a draw would suffice.

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Post by Claret&Green » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:59 am

I think Watford should worry, 2 seasons ago Swansea beat us in our first home game, last year WBA beat us in our 1st home game, both now in Championship!

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:10 am

I have a feeling we'll get tonked tomorrow! Fulham look pretty slick to me.
At the moment we are desperate for some creativity.....backs to the wall draw is the best case scenario me thinks.

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Post by ontario claret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:28 am

As I sit here cleaning the family's silverware, I just realised. If we lose, we're down. Ohmigod!!!

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Post by ontario claret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:29 am

Well, they did outspend us in the close season, so they deserve to win.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:40 am

Burnley Express were reporting we haven't won in 12 competitive matches last night.

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Post by KRBFC » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:48 am

Huddersfield and Cardiff plus 1, right now with the way we're playing, I wouldn't be surprised if it's us but it's really far too early to tell. We need a win and fast, favourable games, non of the ''big 6'' in the first 3 games, would be real disappointing to potentially have 1 point from 3 games with United next up.

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Post by Spijed » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:52 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Burnley Express were reporting we haven't won in 12 competitive matches last night.
Well, we didn't win for 11 matches during last season, taking only 6 points in that run.

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Post by NL Claret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:10 am

Every season we are in the PL with our resources we should be in a relegation battle. It is great testimony that in the previous 2 seasons we have not been. Let's not get carried away with success of the previous seasons and think we are a top half side now. Also, let's not be pathetic in August in thinking we will be relegated. It is a long season in which we will be scraping to stay in the PL with 10 - 12 other teams.

In true Clarets Mad / UTC style, man up and grow a pair.
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Post by tim_noone » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:21 am

1...2 to Burnley. no disgrace in losing to olympiacos the other night we did quite well considering. Fulham do have lots of pace though and a good manager.we certainly won't lose.

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Post by mickleoverclaret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:23 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Burnley Express were reporting we haven't won in 12 competitive matches last night.
They must have missed the Aberdeen and Basaksehir games.
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Post by Spijed » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:26 am

mickleoverclaret wrote:They must have missed the Aberdeen and Basaksehir games.
I must admit, I wondered how we'd got to being one game away from the group stages of the Europa league.
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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:44 am

We will get better Watford was a blip.We have quality in the team and have made great signings in Hart Gibson and Vydra.Robbie Brady is close to a return as is Defour.
We have played two games another 13 wins from 35 games and we are safe UTC

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Post by SkiptonClaret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:56 am

“Robbie Brady is close to a return as is Defour”

Hmm, Defour is weeks away apparently so might depend on your definition of “close”.

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Post by claretblue » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:58 am

Spijed wrote:I must admit, I wondered how we'd got to being one game away from the group stages of the Europa league.
think they mean within 90mins

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Post by Spijed » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:07 am

Last season, one of our best results was Man City at home, achieved without the help of Brady and Defour.

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Post by Claretforever » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:35 am

I never pay too much attention to the leave tables until we’ve played around 10 games in he Prem, or about 12 games in the Championship. You get a feel around then where you might finish.

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Post by bfcmik » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:14 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Just looked at the Premier League table. We will be bottom 3 if we don't get at least a point tomorrow. :(
And if we win we would be 9th and above ManUre in the table. What does that go to show ? Nothing, apart from the fact it is is way too early in the season to be getting panicked about our League position.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:22 pm

Even if we lose today there should be no panic. It has been a weird start for the players. Europe is so big to some of these players I think some of them will be gutted not to be playing (e.g. Lowton and Mee who will never play internationally or in Europe again) and in general the uncertainty of whether they are to play or not may make it hard to focus when they do play. They’ve been used to same eleven, same eleven every week under Dyche. After Thursday it will settle down (even if we get to the group stages, having 6 guaranteed games will relax them).

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Post by Paul Waine » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:26 pm

bfcmik wrote:And if we win we would be 9th and above ManUre in the table. What does that go to show ? Nothing, apart from the fact it is is way too early in the season to be getting panicked about our League position.
Hi bfcmik, my post was just an observation. I'm sure Sean Dyche is already well ahead of all us of in thinking about what we need today, next Thursday, next w/end and beyond.

I hope we get 3 points today - and victory we need to progress in the Europa on Thursday. And, of course, I'll be thrilled if we can get a win against MUtd.

If we don't, well we are all Burnley fans....

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Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:53 pm

Top Claret wrote:It is a long season Manering
Mainwaring surely.
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Post by Suratclaret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:06 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Mainwaring surely.
I wondered who'd be the first to spot that Wilson

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Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:26 pm

Well spotted chaps

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:31 pm

tim_noone wrote:1...2 to Burnley. no disgrace in losing to olympiacos the other night we did quite well considering. Fulham do have lots of pace though and a good manager.we certainly won't lose.
you were saying.....

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Post by Spijed » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:45 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:you were saying.....
Did you go today, or will you be there on Thursday?

Just wondering.

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:47 pm

Spijed wrote:Did you go today, or will you be there on Thursday?

Just wondering.
Not today as working but I will be there on Thursday...tutting as I walk past the man selling half/half scarves and shaking my head as people want selfies with our town idiot the golden ticket seller
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