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Dwight McNeil

Post by Pearcey » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:25 pm

I’m surprised he’s not getting on the bench. Did we need 4 substitute defenders today? Surely has to be an option.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by MRG » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:26 pm

I’m surprised that nobody else has mentioned it

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Pearcey » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:29 pm

Just seen the other post. Soz.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by MRG » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:29 pm

Haha soz for the sarcasm

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by jlup1980 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:04 am

Surely he'll start on Thursday now? Even Agyei might be in with a shout. Just a shame Dunne and O'Neill are out on loan as I'd be playing them as well.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:08 am

jlup1980 wrote:Surely he'll start on Thursday now? Even Agyei might be in with a shout. Just a shame Dunne and O'Neill are out on loan as I'd be playing them as well.
You’d be playing Dunne ahead of Mee, Tarks or Long?

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:16 am

We need fresh legs and enthusiasm.Agyei could play wide right to replace Lennon and McNeil could go into midfield to replace Westwood.We need Barnes and Vokes start up front .Wardy at leftback with Taylor wide left.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by jlup1980 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:24 am

wilks_bfc wrote:You’d be playing Dunne ahead of Mee, Tarks or Long?
No, I'd be playing him instead of Gibson in our 2nd string back 4. We need to prioritise the PL.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by SkiptonClaret » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:45 am

McNeil and Agyei are young players. Young players don’t get a chance, always experienced pros first and foreever. Therefore McNeil and Agyei won’t play. Simple.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:00 pm

'Taylor wide left'

?????

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by piston broke » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:13 pm

Every now and again a player bursts on the scene McNeill could be ours. Aygei isn’t.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by agreenwood » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:18 pm

piston broke wrote:Every now and again a player bursts on the scene McNeill could be ours. Aygei isn’t.
“Every now and again” in our case being 10 years? It must be about that since Jay made his full league debut.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:38 pm

agreenwood wrote:“Every now and again” in our case being 10 years? It must be about that since Jay made his full league debut.
And before that Kyle Lafferty and Chris McCann.

It’s fairly criminal that no one has been anywhere near progressing to be a regular in the first team from the youth setup since those three.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:05 pm

Even if we had an absolutely outstanding youngster on our hands don't think Dyche would give them a chance.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by SkiptonClaret » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:22 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Even if we had an absolutely outstanding youngster on our hands don't think Dyche would give them a chance.
We may never know, unfortunately, but I expect you could be right.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:25 pm

11 years since Jay Rod made his first team debut.

McCann, Lafferty and Chaplow before that in the last 20-30 years.

Unless someone states otherwise.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by diamondpocket » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:37 pm

we've got sucked into the idea that going for the modern youth system model is gonna help us but it aint and the players coming through are proving that, there's no-one near the first team; the NZ kid, Aiden O'Neill, Agyei, the Shrewsbury lad who played at Bolton pre season Ginnelly was it, now McNeil; none of them will make it with us. Who will be the next ones to get a sniff when in reality they are nowhere near.
They may get a professional career and we'll get a few quid for future sales if they do move on but the modern system is all for top clubs to stockpile and sell on through because they've come through a top club system, ala Luke Chadwick!!
We do a loyal service to the football world in trying to give these lads a professional career but the gains for our first team are zilch, and will continue to be, I suspect.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by bfccrazy » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:57 pm

piston broke wrote:Every now and again a player bursts on the scene McNeill could be ours. Aygei isn’t.
Pre season I only caught us playing Curzon live.

Walters did alright against them but as soon as Agyei came on and started going down the wing it was a different game.

I get that Curzon are not at a level similar to anybody we are playing now but to see 2 players playing so differently against the same team and one really standing out was something. Walters looked pretty lost and like he was trying too hard - Agyei just had that fearless streak in him and they couldn’t handle him at all.

Walters got a chance in Europa ..... i’d feel fine with Agyei being told to go out and prove himself as I think he’d shock a few people.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by MRG » Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:28 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:11 years since Jay Rod made his first team debut.

McCann, Lafferty and Chaplow before that in the last 20-30 years.

Unless someone states otherwise.
It’s a completely different thing breaking into our team at this level in comparison to where we were when they came through the ranks.

I dare say that if we were to still be at that level we may of seen 1 or 2 break into the first team

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:52 am

diamondpocket wrote:we've got sucked into the idea that going for the modern youth system model is gonna help us but it aint and the players coming through are proving that, there's no-one near the first team; the NZ kid, Aiden O'Neill, Agyei, the Shrewsbury lad who played at Bolton pre season Ginnelly was it, now McNeil; none of them will make it with us. Who will be the next ones to get a sniff when in reality they are nowhere near.
They may get a professional career and we'll get a few quid for future sales if they do move on but the modern system is all for top clubs to stockpile and sell on through because they've come through a top club system, ala Luke Chadwick!!
We do a loyal service to the football world in trying to give these lads a professional career but the gains for our first team are zilch, and will continue to be, I suspect.
Wait a second ...while i go and slash my wrists!....FFS 3 games in with a depleted squad!.... Unbelievable!

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by mickleoverclaret » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:46 am

jrgbfc wrote:Even if we had an absolutely outstanding youngster on our hands don't think Dyche would give them a chance.
McNeil has already had a run out against Aberdeen while the tie was still in the balance this season, he's still only 18 but I think Dyche has given him a good few opportunities in and around the first team, to be fair to him. The reason not many young lads have had the chance while he's been here is that he's got us to a level which the majority of our young players simply aren't good enough to be at, but that side of the club all looks to be moving in the right direction to me.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by piston broke » Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:04 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:Wait a second ...while i go and slash my wrists!....FFS 3 games in with a depleted squad!.... Unbelievable!
That post is about the youth system and has nothing to do with the current first team run. Why you would want to slash your wrists over it baffles me.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:56 am

He had an excellent opportunity to show his worth v Bournemouth at the end of last season in a game where there was nothing at stake. I think he got about 2 minutes plus whatever was added on by the ref. I don't expect to see very much at all of him for the first team.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by leightonjameslegend » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:46 pm

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Don’t know if this has been posted before. A nice article and hopefully one who will make it in the first team.
Can’t see the harm in getting him on the bench while we are missing Defour, Brady and JBG.

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