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Heaton

Post by ClaretAL » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:23 pm

It was fantastic to see Heaton getting back to his best tonight. His distribution was great and his positioning was what we are used to. I hope he plays Sunday.
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Re: Heaton

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:25 pm

I thought his kicking was a long way off what Hart's is, but his organisation and other aspects of his game were very good.

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Re: Heaton

Post by Zesty » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:25 pm

Was very good but hart hasn’t done anything to make him lose the shirt unfortunately

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Re: Heaton

Post by MDWat » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:25 pm

Time for a consistent eleven. Some big decisions to be made but hopefully they start with Heaton starting in goal and Taylor at left back.
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Re: Heaton

Post by Blackrod » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:26 pm

Thought he was very good and I would start him on Sunday.

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Re: Heaton

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:27 pm

He’s captain and a leader needs to start Sunday.
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Re: Heaton

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:27 pm

I’d start him on Sunday

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Re: Heaton

Post by piston broke » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:28 pm

MDWat wrote:Time for a consistent eleven. Some big decisions to be made but hopefully they start with Heaton starting in goal and Taylor at left back.
Taylor was dreadful first half and much improved second. I’m yet to be impressed with him.

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Re: Heaton

Post by MDWat » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:29 pm

piston broke wrote:Taylor was dreadful first half and much improved second. I’m yet to be impressed with him.
Hard when you’re back up centre back one week, left back the next week and winger the week after. He’s been totally thrown under the bus. He was excellent second half tonight.
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Re: Heaton

Post by SammyBoy » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:29 pm

Hart hasn't done too much wrong but I just feel better with Heaton in goal, possibly just because of how familiar it feels.

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Re: Heaton

Post by SammyBoy » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:31 pm

MDWat wrote:Hard when you’re back up centre back one week, left back the next week and winger the week after. He’s been totally thrown under the bus. He was excellent second half tonight.
Agree, as much as I've been a fan of Ward I don't think he's been at his best for a while. I think it's a matter of when rather than if Taylor replaces him and I think with a run of games at left back Taylor is the future for us in that position.

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Re: Heaton

Post by ClaretAL » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:33 pm

I have totally missed the Heaton cries of "get out, get up" he was none stopnorgsnising his defence and we need that
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Re: Heaton

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:33 pm

Think Hart would have been informed by SD that Heats would be favourite to return when fit.
Though he hasn't done much wrong.

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Re: Heaton

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:34 pm

SammyBoy wrote:Agree, as much as I've been a fan of Ward I don't think he's been at his best for a while. I think it's a matter of when rather than if Taylor replaces him and I think with a run of games at left back Taylor is the future for us in that position.

Ward is the best left back we have and fortunately Dyche knows this and will start him on Sunday

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Re: Heaton

Post by taio » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:34 pm

MDWat wrote:Hard when you’re back up centre back one week, left back the next week and winger the week after. He’s been totally thrown under the bus. He was excellent second half tonight.
That's some exaggeration.

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Re: Heaton

Post by Walt » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:38 pm

MDWat wrote:Hard when you’re back up centre back one week, left back the next week and winger the week after. He’s been totally thrown under the bus. He was excellent second half tonight.
I see your point and agree to an extent, he was good 2nd half and going forward offers much more than Ward. No doubt he will replace Ward at some stage but just feel there's more errors at the moment from Taylor. Defensively Ward is more reliable I feel, it's a close call though.

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Re: Heaton

Post by SammyBoy » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:44 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Ward is the best left back we have and fortunately Dyche knows this and will start him on Sunday
At the moment possibly, but I'm sure Dyche bought Taylor with a view to him replacing Ward for the long term. Certainly offers more going forward for me, and I think he'd become more consistent defensively with more games under his belt.
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Re: Heaton

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:47 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:Ward is the best left back we have and fortunately Dyche knows this and will start him on Sunday
Don't think this is the case anymore. Ward has been poor so far this season and is at an age now where he is only going to go one way. We didn't miss him at all tonight.

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Re: Heaton

Post by superdimitri » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:55 pm

Said it here before, Heaton miles ahead of both Hart and Pope, we'll see it as the season develops.

People like pope because he can catch a cross :roll:

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Re: Heaton

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:05 pm

Heaton was always first choice for me between he and pope. And he looks to be over his injury and confident. But I dont think Hart has let us down yet.
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Re: Heaton

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:40 pm

I still think Hart could have done better on the crucial 2nd at Fulham and he was lucky to get away with one he spilled against Watford.

I can only remember one mistake all last season for Pope to put it into context.

In terms of Heaton he fills you with more confidence ala Pope

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Re: Heaton

Post by Goodclaret » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:57 pm

superdimitri wrote:Said it here before, Heaton miles ahead of both Hart and Pope, we'll see it as the season develops.

People like pope because he can catch a cross :roll:
I think Pope does a little more than catch a cross :D He was part of a one of the best defences in the PL last season which is no mean feat.

It's quite a surreal situation to be in in all honesty, arguing between who's the best out of 3 very, very good 'keepers!

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Re: Heaton

Post by piston broke » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:12 am

MDWat wrote:Hard when you’re back up centre back one week, left back the next week and winger the week after. He’s been totally thrown under the bus. He was excellent second half tonight.
Fair point.

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Re: Heaton

Post by Rammy1968 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:50 am

Pope is the better of the three in my opinion his command of the box and the pressure he releases when taking crosses helps our defense. Of the other two Heaton is far superior than Hart. He organises the defense better than Hart and has the best hands ive ever seen from a keeper. What a good conundrum for Dyche to have. UTC
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Re: Heaton

Post by ClaretAL » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:54 am

The throw out to over the half way line when trying to release us on the break is something i have not seen from Heaton before but it was precise and damn good to see.

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Re: Heaton

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:47 am

I can't help feeling a bit sorry for Lindegaard, has he done anything wrong?

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Re: Heaton

Post by IanMcL » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:56 am

Heaton breeds confidence. Hart is brilliant to brittle.

Heaton is Burnley.

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Re: Heaton

Post by KRBFC » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:03 am

MDWat wrote:Time for a consistent eleven.
I agree, now we can see a consistent team, I wouldn't be against this:

Hart
Tark Gibson Mee
Lowton Taylor
Hendrick Westwood Cork
Vydra Wood
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Re: Heaton

Post by joey13 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:04 am

Tough call for Dyche on Sunday
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Re: Heaton

Post by mickleoverclaret » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:11 am

Heaton has outperformed Hart for years now, and for my money Hart was partly to blame for both of Mitrovic's goals on Sunday. Will be gutted if Heaton doesn't start Sunday, he's a much better keeper.

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Re: Heaton

Post by deanothedino » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:14 am

superdimitri wrote:Said it here before, Heaton miles ahead of both Hart and Pope, we'll see it as the season develops.

People like pope because he can catch a cross :roll:
I'd be good at catching crosses if I was as tall as Pope

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Re: Heaton

Post by Tall Paul » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:28 am

I'd like to see him back in his rightful number one spot.

Still don't get the Hart signing at all.

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Re: Heaton

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:39 am

KRBFC wrote:I agree, now we can see a consistent team, I wouldn't be against this:

Hart
Tark Gibson Mee
Lowton Taylor
Hendrick Westwood Cork
Vydra Wood
On paper a good team but we all know it will be a `fluid` 4-4-2 / 4-4-1-1. I`d love the Bayern Munich 4-3-2-1!!!!!!!

Heaton
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Hendrick Cork Westwood (Defour)
Lennon (Gudmundsson) Vydra (Brady)
Vokes OR Barnes
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Re: Heaton

Post by upanatem » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:39 am

One attribute that Heaton possesses, that I had not fully recognised until last night, was how quick over the ground he was. When in a race to the ball to the edge of or outside the penalty area, he was lightning fast.

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Re: Heaton

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:40 am

Heaton for me over Hart our captain and more of a leader which we need at the minute.
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Re: Heaton

Post by KRBFC » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:42 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:On paper a good team but we all know it will be a `fluid` 4-4-2 / 4-4-1-1. I`d love the Bayern Munich 4-3-2-1!!!!!!!

Heaton
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Hendrick Cork Westwood (Defour)
Lennon (Gudmundsson) Vydra (Brady)
Vokes OR Barnes
Wood has to start for me, our best striker, the service into him just has to be miles better, Wood would've scored a few last night.

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Re: Heaton

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:44 am

KRBFC wrote:Wood has to start for me, our best striker, the service into him just has to be miles better, Wood would've scored a few last night.
If he returns to some semblance of form, then no argument from me.

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Re: Heaton

Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:44 am

Difficult call will be when Pope is fit. He was excellent last season.

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Re: Heaton

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:52 am

I'd go 5-2-1-2

The full backs can push on to form a 5 in midfield when required and it allows Vydra to play in his favoured position and it means that Wood will have someone up top to help him out

Heaton
Tarka Mee Gibson
Lowton Taylor

Hendrick Cork

Vydra

Wood Barnes


Or something like that :D

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Re: Heaton

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:29 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:Difficult call will be when Pope is fit. He was excellent last season.
He was indeed! Still fear he will be off in January after Heaton has cemented his place back in the first team.

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Re: Heaton

Post by Ooogeorgeorgeoghani » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:22 pm

Hart s distribution is way better than pope or Heaton, pope is better on crosses than the pair , Heaton s positioning and agility around the box is better , combined we have the best keeper in the world play all 3

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Re: Heaton

Post by CombatClaret » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:35 pm

"-1.70 expected goals (xG) prevented by Joe Hart is the worst figure of all 22 goalkeepers who have played in the Premier League this season. The Burnley goalkeeper has conceded on seven occasions this season, with Opta calculating that he should only have statistically shipped 5.3 goals."

It's not all about stats but...

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Re: Heaton

Post by LongSider75 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:18 pm

Pope 1
Heaton 2
Hart 3
Lindergard 4

That means Heats starts Sunday, no brainer.

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Re: Heaton

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:56 pm

CombatClaret wrote:"-1.70 expected goals (xG) prevented by Joe Hart is the worst figure of all 22 goalkeepers who have played in the Premier League this season. The Burnley goalkeeper has conceded on seven occasions this season, with Opta calculating that he should only have statistically shipped 5.3 goals."

It's not all about stats but...
What a load of ****!

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Re: Heaton

Post by Belgianclaret » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:47 pm

Still think Heats is a safer pair of hands than Hart and our defense has a bit more confidence in him

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Re: Heaton

Post by 1fatclaret » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:58 pm

Heaton is our best ‘keeper. His starting position, decision making, command of the defensive unit are all more important and more than compensation for the 1 advantage Pope has, which is height.

Hart is a busted flush as far as I can see, but could prove me either wrong, or useful as motivation for our other two ‘keepers.

Lindegard clearly commands little or no respect or has any understanding with the back 4, which was evident when Ben Mee ballsed up from a corner but berated him without response.

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Re: Heaton

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:06 pm

KRBFC wrote:Wood has to start for me, our best striker, the service into him just has to be miles better, Wood would've scored a few last night.
The way we play we are reliant on the main striker holding up the ball, something that Wood is worse than Tony Philliskirk at.

Baring in mind Jose always plays Fellani and Matic against us I would play Vokes and Wood

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Re: Heaton

Post by IanMcL » Sat Sep 01, 2018 1:19 pm

Heaton
Lowton (just), Tarkowski, Mee, Ward
Westwood, Hendrick, Cork, McNeil
Wood, Barnes

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Re: Heaton

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:45 pm

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:Hart s distribution is way better than pope or Heaton, pope is better on crosses than the pair , Heaton s positioning and agility around the box is better , combined we have the best keeper in the world play all 3
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