Mighty Clarets versus Manky Utd

PutTheWheelieBinsOut · Post by **PutTheWheelieBinsOut** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:26 pm

elwaclaret wrote:The same chairman that has backed SD with the investment in the club this last few years. The one that has sanctioned Barnfield to replace a training facility that was in the main only usable in the summer months? I don't buy it. It is not Garlick that tries to nullify the opposition for an hour.... no matter how much that isn't working?

This finger pointing has to stop and ALL those involved need to use the International break to get to the bottom of the problems we have on the pitch and get it sorted. Now we get to see how adaptable our management team is.... our fail safe position isn't working either we find out why or we change it.

The chairman backed SD with the money SD created for the club himself. You make it sound like it's come out of Garlick's back pocket!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:******* MILES better with two up top already. Dyche isn't setting us up to give the lads a chance to win games

I can totally understand us wanting to fill and compete in midfield. Time again, we've tried 4-4-2 and been completely drowned in the centre.

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:26 pm

Hart save.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:26 pm

Saved Hart after United fans giving him loads of grief. Hahaha

Spaceman · Post by **Spaceman** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:27 pm

Nah tactics .work rate and luck do not show up in stats as having any bearing on success. They show quite simply that the teams who spend most do best . Our success is more remarkable given our budget. Need to keep our heads up . When the going gets tough etc

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:27 pm

lmao Pogba with his poncy run up

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:28 pm

He has to go.... Surely...

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:28 pm

Spaceman wrote:Nah tactics .work rate and luck do not show up in stats as having any bearing on success. They show quite simply that the teams who spend most do best . Our success is more remarkable given our budget. Need to keep our heads up . When the going gets tough etc

you need to learn how to use the quote function

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:28 pm

Red for Rashford.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:29 pm

Rashford has to see red here HAS to

Spaceman · Post by **Spaceman** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:29 pm

Come on Burnley get into them

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:30 pm

I'm switching this crap off.

Spaceman · Post by **Spaceman** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:30 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:you need to learn how to use the quote function

Yes just figured it out. Thank you . Must be annoying

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:30 pm

Been thrown a life line.

Come on Burnley

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:30 pm

Definite red, with that nose Rashford could have taken Bardsleys eye out

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:31 pm

Spaceman wrote:Yes just figured it out. Thank you . Must be annoying

no not annoying, just a way to make sure people read your reply

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:31 pm

Vydra on now! Vydra for Wood and maybe Barnes for McNeill wide

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:32 pm

So, now United have 1 up top - get Barnes on and put them under pressure, go 3 at the back and 3 up top, Wood, Barnes and Vokes

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:32 pm

Hotting up now

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:32 pm

Hitting up now

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:33 pm

PutTheWheelieBinsOut wrote:The chairman backed SD with the money SD created for the club himself. You make it sound like it's come out of Garlick's back pocket!

Where have I said that? I've simply pointed out that the chairman is backing the manager in many ways. Just because that comment does not suit your agenda does not make it any less correct. Yes we had a rough window, you assume its Garlick's fault. I assume its a combination of factors. I trust EVERYONE will be honest enough to take a long look at their roll in the current problems and work to put them right.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:33 pm

Watford 2 spurs 1

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:33 pm

Vokes misses another free header ffs

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:34 pm

Can we please leave other scores off the thread. We don't give a toss.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:35 pm

Lingaard going off for Herrera, they only have Lukaku with proper pace now. Get Barnes on and pick up the scraps

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:36 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Can we please leave other scores off the thread. We don't give a toss.

Sorry Frank, didn't realise you spoke for everyone !

We need a sticky to say what we are allowed to post and what we aren't allowed to post just so people don't get upset by everything

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:37 pm

Mee gave up again there in that foot race

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:37 pm

McNeil has put more dangerous crosses this game then Lennon has in his Burnley career

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:38 pm

Nonayforever wrote:Mee gave up again there in that foot race

Gave up really?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:39 pm

Ash on for Mcneil - way to take your best crosser of the ball off

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:42 pm

Vydra on for wood

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:42 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Ash on for Mcneil - way to take your best crosser of the ball off

Fatigue.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:44 pm

Didn’t realise how slow Mee is

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:45 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Fatigue.

United are pretty much camped in their own last 3rd, he wasn't required to do any running at this point particularly.

Either way, Dyche got it 100% wrong today and the garbage performance is at his feet - he simply doesn't set us up to win games

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:46 pm

Lukaku has been unplayable

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:50 pm

Pogba and Lukaku have been immense since they went down to 10. Can understand people's frustrations to a degree, but we can't always upset the odds. We're simply playing against better players today, those two alone were over £150 million. Last week against Fulham was far worse.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:51 pm

willsclarets wrote:Pogba and Lukaku have been immense since they went down to 10. Can understand people's frustrations to a degree, but we can't always upset the odds. We're simply playing against better players today, those two alone were over £150 million. Last week against Fulham was far worse.

I'm only upset with Dyche

The minute we change to 2 big lads up top De Gea had to make a save, he's now made 2 or 3, Vokes missed another free header and Vydra just headed over. Before that we didn't have an attempt on goal. It's not that we lose it's how we lose and Dyche isn't giving us a chance

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:52 pm

willsclarets wrote:Pogba and Lukaku have been immense since they went down to 10. Can understand people's frustrations to a degree, but we can't always upset the odds. We're simply playing against better players today, those two alone were over £150 million. Last week against Fulham was far worse.

That was my point.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:55 pm

Guys can we all calm down and just remember where we came from and that in 1987 we almost went out of the football league altogether until we beat Leyton Orient 2-1 at Turf Moor.

Spaceman · Post by **Spaceman** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:56 pm

Agree 100 per cent . Lukaku and Pogba were great to watch . No shame losing to players of this calibre .

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:57 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Guys can we all calm down and just remember where we came from and that in 1987 we almost went out of the football league altogether until we beat Leyton Orient 2-1 at Turf Moor.

Too much bait put that rod away

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:00 pm

willsclarets wrote:Pogba and Lukaku have been immense since they went down to 10. Can understand people's frustrations to a degree, but we can't always upset the odds. We're simply playing against better players today, those two alone were over £150 million. Last week against Fulham was far worse.

Watford were playing against better players today , it happens every week ,
what’s upsetting is we are not creative, lack pace and focus and Dyche is tactically inept

Spaceman · Post by **Spaceman** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:00 pm

Why no Heaton ? Why is he not first choice ? He's captain . Shouts . Organises the defence . Comes.out well. Distributes . Understands how we play . Why not starting ?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:01 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:I'm only upset with Dyche

The minute we change to 2 big lads up top De Gea had to make a save, he's now made 2 or 3, Vokes missed another free header and Vydra just headed over. Before that we didn't have an attempt on goal. It's not that we lose it's how we lose and Dyche isn't giving us a chance

Vydra isn't yet Premier League match fit.

It sounds great in theory, but he's not ready to start.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:01 pm

Spaceman wrote:Agree 100 per cent . Lukaku and Pogba were great to watch . No shame losing to players of this calibre .

You won’t be watching them in the championship where you are happy to be

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:01 pm

Spaceman wrote:Why no Heaton ? Why is he not first choice ? He's captain . Shouts . Organises the defence . Comes.out well. Distributes . Understands how we play . Why not starting ?

Surely you must know how SD works?

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:07 pm

Yeah, well done Watford. So what? They were probably saying the same about us last year when we took points off all the top 4.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:08 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Vydra isn't yet Premier League match fit.

It sounds great in theory, but he's not ready to start.

I only mentioned Vydra cause he was on the pitch - I wouldn't have brought him on which is why I questioned the decision to withdraw McNeil. We had this exact discussion before kick off. Dyche got it wrong AGAIN, we saw in midweek we are far more effective with two up top and yet he inexplicably reverts back to the dog **** 4-5-1 with Wood and Hendrick that will never work ESPECIALLY against a tall team. Dyche was the reason we got promoted and stayed up, if he doesn't change tactics he will be the reason we go down. I hope he figures it out over the International break but I'm not confident at all as he is extremely stubborn

Spaceman · Post by **Spaceman** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:11 pm

joey13 wrote:You won’t be watching them in the championship where you are happy to be

Happy to be.a claret when we played that game agianst Orient. Has anyone mentioned that yet today ?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:13 pm

Spaceman wrote:Happy to be.a claret when we played that game agianst Orient. Has anyone mentioned that yet today ?

I've just finished having a **** over the Orient game