Ben Mee

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:13 pm

Really hope we never see the silly thread regarding him being selected for England again.
Bullied an all over the show today, time to sit a few games out so he can sort his head out because he's looking below average this season

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:14 pm

He has been well below par. Up against a good player today but made to look like an amateur.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:15 pm

Time for Gibson ? Very unlike Ben but he is devoid of form completely

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:16 pm

Bullied is the exact word id use. In fairness many players will be bullied by Lukaku. But he was very poor and lucky not to be sent off with the handball.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:17 pm

Have to agree the PL is not forgiving. When you are not on top of your game your lack of pace stands out. Lukaku will not have an easier game.Time to for Len non to take a rest

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:18 pm

Absolutely destroyed today. Wretched performance. Time for Gibson.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:23 pm

absolute rubbish

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:35 pm

They targeted Mee second half Lukaku was always going to Mee before the ball was played up

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:40 pm

Mee had Lukaku in his pocket 4 years ago against Everton, despite the result. Today was a completely different story. Lukaku can bully players, but he can also be managed, nullifying his main threats. Today, Ben Mee was completely and utterly run ragged by him. Something needs to change. I’m not suggesting Gibson for Mee is the answer to all of our problems (there probably needs to be more than one change), but I think the question needs asking...

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:42 pm

How many times have I seen a player's form drop off after they've re-topped their contract? Too many to mention.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:52 pm

I posted a while ago Mee/ Gibson and was shot down. I just wonder if Ben Mee is upset in his head because a big club didn't come in for him when he was dallying over a new contract. Whatever that back 4 needs sorting and we need a strong midfielder in front of them, something that has been obvious for ages.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:55 pm

Yep time for Gibson. Better footballer and more physically imposing - Ben Mee got bullied beyond belief today.

Pimlico_Claret · Post by **Pimlico_Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:56 pm

Not normally one to criticise a player, but he was dreadful today. Last season he would have bust a gut in those one on one's with Lukaku. Completely different player so far this season

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:59 pm

Worryingly poor today but he wasn’t alone in that.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:13 pm

I'm convinced he only signed a deal because nobody came in for him. He's had a shocking start to the season. Time for Gibson.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:37 pm

He was probably terrified by Lukaku's 24-inch penis.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:59 pm

I’ve said it previously and I think it is accurate in that he was disappointed not to be fully involved in the Europa League squad. He earnt the right to play and then didn’t. Head turned, perhaps - needs to take it out his butt IMO and start playing well again otherwise Gibson won’t be long.

DuckworthsEA · Post by **DuckworthsEA** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:05 pm

Nothing against Ben Gibson but when he has played he has hardly stood out for the right reasons. Mee was up against one of the worlds best strikers give him a break. UTC

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:06 pm

DuckworthsEA wrote:Nothing against Ben Gibson but when he has played he has hardly stood out for the right reasons. Mee was up against one of the worlds best strikers give him a break. UTC

You mean in the 2 games he's played?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:33 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:He was probably terrified by Lukaku's 24-inch penis.

careyclaret · Post by **careyclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:36 pm

Why Gibson? Why not Long?

Jeremy_Bentham · Post by **Jeremy_Bentham** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:09 pm

. thinks Mee should be ashamed of himself after that display today.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:12 pm

careyclaret wrote:Why Gibson? Why not Long?

After his performances in Europe Kevin Long has rightly earned chance in my opinion

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:12 pm

careyclaret wrote:Why Gibson? Why not Long?

Because Gibson is a far better player than Long.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:17 pm

[quote="DuckworthsEA"]Nothing against Ben Gibson but when he has played he has hardly stood out for the right reasons. Mee was up against one of the worlds best strikers give him a break. UTC[/quote

Gibson's only played about twice. So how can you make that judgement

Mee has been very poor this season. He and Ward

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Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:18 pm

bumba wrote:After his performances in Europe Kevin Long has rightly earned chance in my opinion

Left sided.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:18 pm

Thought he could get the better of Lukaku today by beating him in a physical battle. Not surprisingly this failed miserably and he ended up looking a fool who was swatted away with minimal effort.

I'd be seriously considering Gibson after his performances so far this season which have stunk.

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:20 pm

Then again you could say what a proper centre forward performance. I guess that's why you pay £90m, he was a nightmare all afternoon. Unplayable. He was certainly up for it.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:25 pm

Unfortunately its not just been today.
He has been owned by Mitrovic, Deeney and Lukaku already this season.

Even in the first game against Southampton where he had a good game in the first 70 minutes when Ings came on we started losing our shape completely and Mee should have had a penalty awarded against him.

He cannot have become a bad player in the space of a few weeks but we could do with getting the old Mee back. He does not deserve to be dropped yet but another 4 or 5 games of playing like he has and we have to play Gibson.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:33 pm

MDWat wrote:Absolutely destroyed today. Wretched performance. Time for Gibson.

Anyone see Gibson in Greece against worse players....

Indecisive · Post by **Indecisive** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:37 pm

bumba wrote:Really hope we never see the silly thread regarding him being selected for England again.
Bullied an all over the show today, time to sit a few games out so he can sort his head out because he's looking below average this season

Really hope we do have a thread suggesting he deserves an England call up... as that will mean he’s back to his best.

He’s not quite hit form yet, but the speed at which a minority of our fans appear to turn on players is pretty startling/embarrassing.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:40 pm

Any ideas why we don't put the much bigger Tarkowski up against these bullies?

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:42 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Any ideas why we don't put the much bigger Tarkowski up against these bullies?

Because Lukaku used his brain and targeted Mee as the weak link

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:44 pm

Indecisive wrote:Really hope we do have a thread suggesting he deserves an England call up... as that will mean he’s back to his best.

He’s not quite hit form yet, but the speed at which a minority of our fans appear to turn on players is pretty startling/embarrassing.

People keep making similar comments about the fans but it's not just a couple of games is it, it's 5 wins from 30

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:45 pm

bumba wrote:Because Lukaku used his brain and targeted Mee as the weak link

Surely defenders mark forwards? Though I do understand the zonal thing.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:45 pm

Is Gibson going to be the latest player on here who becomes a superstar when he's not playing?

ClaretRock · Post by **ClaretRock** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:49 pm

Scape goat. Not been anywhere near his best but some of these comments are laughably knee jerk. If you think changing the Centre back pairing will sort all our problems when we can't score with 3-4 strikers on the pitch you should go take your heads for a wobble. Maybe Gibson deserves a shot but threads targeting one player after a game where only Hart played well is just stupid.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:53 pm

ClaretRock wrote:Scape goat. Not been anywhere near his best but some of these comments are laughably knee jerk. If you think changing the Centre back pairing will sort all our problems when we can't score with 3-4 strikers on the pitch you should go take your heads for a wobble. Maybe Gibson deserves a shot but threads targeting one player after a game where only Hart played well is just stupid.

Agree 100%.

And to add to this, what is it with what seems to be no one shoots unless its a striker, so if you find yourself at point where you can pull the trigger, square the ball???? Seems to be the case for the last 3 matches for some reason

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:56 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:He was probably terrified by Lukaku's 24-inch penis.

All he had to do was stand on his toes...

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:00 pm

I love Ben mee but he was **** poor today.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:36 pm

No one singling Ben out but if you did not see the game have a look at MOTD in a second. Not seen a PL defender this slow and I have been supporting Burnley since 1961. Wolves must be licking their lips

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:53 pm

Let’s be honest here, Mee has always been slow that’s why he was poor as a left back, he doesn’t have the physicality for a modern centre back either. His game has all about effort, commitment and positional play. It appears the mental side of his game has been lacking so it’s no surprise that he is looking so poor. A spell on the bench is certainly needed get Gibson or Long in see how they get on.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:58 pm

Ben Mee isn’t even an international footballer when playing at the top of his form. Very brave and committed playsr who gives his all and suits a defensive set up when their is plenty of assistance around him.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:00 pm

Seem to recall plenty of idiots on here last season telling us he was better than John Stones....

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:04 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Seem to recall plenty of idiots on here last season telling us he was better than John Stones....

He was, last season - this season he isn’t.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:57 pm

He looked to have a dodgy game live. On MOTD he looks to have had the worst day on the Turf since that Northampton defender in 92.

Absolute bobbins of a performance. No matter how good Lukaku is.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:57 am

boatshed bill wrote:Surely defenders mark forwards? Though I do understand the zonal thing.

Everytime the ball was heading up towards Lukaku he moved towards Mee, clear instructions from Mourinho an Lukaku using his brain if it went in the air Lukaku won the head if it was on the floor he used Mee as a rag dolll if it was a chase Mee was too slow

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:10 am

Just saw the replay of their first goal. Mee was directly under the ball as it was coming down. Then he just kept on moving. Left Lukaku with a free header. Very strange. Lukaku never touched him.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:11 am

If this keeps up, he'll be my nominee for the Agent Keane Award.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:26 am

Not kneejerk .Fact Ben Mee was poor v Watford poor today.But as said before one up front is questionable at the best of times.At home its suicidal
.How fit does Vydra need to be?