Bradys injury

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:25 pm

We are believing it’s his hammy from the pre-season game but in a Sky report on the Republic squad they say he is out with an ankle problem. Oh! Oh!

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:25 pm

He was smiling and joking on the vid of last week's training session. I wouldn't want another thread on the club and its attitude to injuries. What is an injury, what is a tweak, what is a precaution, what the **** do we fans need to know for.
It's frustrating as hell.

1914tyrone · Post by **1914tyrone** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:36 pm

Not even a sign of a U23 apoeareance

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:26 pm

1914tyrone wrote:Not even a sign of a U23 apoeareance

No he was AWOL as he needed a Pee

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:39 pm

Just searched Robbie Brady injury and there are reports the week after the Leicester game that he had a knee injury

Lazy journalists

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:28 pm

Feel quite positive after reading Stephen Wards article in the Independent. He refers to Brady's progress-been training with first team for several weeks and likely to play soon in some friendlies. Lets not rush the lad back-we need his quality

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:33 pm

1914tyrone wrote:Not even a sign of a U23 apoeareance

QPR was too far to travel and back

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:36 pm

I may be mistaken but playing on those heavy pitches in the sixties and seventies we didn't seem to have players out injured all the time...only a broken leg kept you out or mebee a game against Leeds.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:59 pm

tim_noone wrote:I may be mistaken but playing on those heavy pitches in the sixties and seventies we didn't seem to have players out injured all the time...only a broken leg kept you out or mebee a game against Leeds.

Eye it be better in the old days when they had a pint and a cigarette at half time...

Not sure If your taking the p8ss but modern athletics and sports science has moved on.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:17 pm

he has a point, the players thesedays are ponces by comparison.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:18 pm

Fat lot of good having personal physio's and green tea if it means you disappear for a year.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:23 pm

I can only guess the club are being ultra cautious with Robbie,he has already had one setback in his recovery.It is frustrating for the fans but if it takes an extra few weeks to get Robbie back to full fitness,and he then plays for the rest of the season it will be worth the wait.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:32 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Eye it be better in the old days when they had a pint and a cigarette at half time...

Not sure If your taking the p8ss but modern athletics and sports science has moved on.

Modern athletics and sports science has moved on in detecting banned substances I suppose.... But for recovery? I'm not so sure. Insurance companies spring to mind.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:44 pm

tim_noone wrote:Modern athletics and sports science has moved on in detecting banned substances I suppose.... But for recovery? I'm not so sure. Insurance companies spring to mind.

Don't be sarcastically ignorant, past sports records keep being broken thanks to the science of sports and the human body.

Modern day teams would run rings around the pint drinking, fag smoking teams of the 60s.
Any modern day team would be negligent to throw multi-million pound assets into the fray unless they are sure they are 100% fit.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:53 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Don't be sarcastically ignorant, past sports records keep being broken thanks to the science of sports and the human body.

Modern day teams would run rings around the pint drinking, fag smoking teams of the 60s.
Any modern day team would be negligent to throw multi-million pound assets into the fray unless they are sure they are 100% fit.

you sound like a financial adviser, or a ten bob agent for a lazy player

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:57 pm

Mmmm....and your view on the fag smoking defour? One of the best players to ever wear the shirt many on here would say.... And I'm one of them,he's been on the sidelines a while now would that be the fags?

thelaughingclaret · Post by **thelaughingclaret** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:01 am

He’s touch and go

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:33 am

don't worry, we've asked Brentford if they have a winger we can sign in January

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:48 am

tim_noone wrote:I may be mistaken but playing on those heavy pitches in the sixties and seventies we didn't seem to have players out injured all the time...only a broken leg kept you out or mebee a game against Leeds.

There may be a point here. Those pitches would have more 'give' in them so cushioning landings on the ground. Today's pitches are very consistent and relatively hard. I would think that all joints would likely suffer as a result.

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Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:07 am

CombatClaret wrote:Don't be sarcastically ignorant, past sports records keep being broken thanks to the science of sports and the human body.
Modern day teams would run rings around the pint drinking, fag smoking teams of the 60s.

Any modern day team would be negligent to throw multi-million pound assets into the fray unless they are sure they are 100% fit.

The first part of this is completely true but players regularly play when they are anything but 100% fit.

Take Tarkowski for example who played several games last season with a groin injury which actually required surgery. These are risks that are evaluated and judged accordingly.

The kind of player who only ever plays when fully 100% fit isn't the kind of player we'd want at a club like Burnley where resources are already stretched.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:05 am

Hipper wrote:There may be a point here. Those pitches would have more 'give' in them so cushioning landings on the ground. Today's pitches are very consistent and relatively hard. I would think that all joints would likely suffer as a result.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footb ... -game.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Part of my thinking tbh honest and going in for a tackle back then mistimed or not you'd aqua plane onwards more times than not instead of a heavy blunt force collision which resulted in serious injury.

alwaysaclaret · Post by **alwaysaclaret** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:50 pm

Prior to montpellier does anyone know when he played he's last competitive game for us ?

Bosna · Post by **Bosna** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:53 pm

Away at Leicester last season is when he got injured I think.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:02 pm

Scored a great goal away at Bournemouth on a Wednesday evening at the end of November then got injured the following Saturday at Leicester.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:43 pm

I know that when you reach a certain age, your memory becomes a bit confused, but didn't he score the goal at Bournemouth and then get injured in the same game? I will be happy to be corrected.

Bitternedave · Post by **Bitternedave** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:50 pm

I was in Dublin last Monday and the local press was saying ankle injury. Saw him run down the touchline past the dugouts on the way to the Bob Lord stand on Thursday without any issues. Hopefully back soon.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:54 pm

Vino blanco wrote:I know that when you reach a certain age, your memory becomes a bit confused, but didn't he score the goal at Bournemouth and then get injured in the same game? I will be happy to be corrected.

Definitely crocked himself at Leicester, the following Saturday.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:17 pm

Yeah, now I seem to remember he tried and shot and did he kick the leg of a Leicester defender, Maguire?

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:50 am

Vino blanco wrote:I know that when you reach a certain age, your memory becomes a bit confused, but didn't he score the goal at Bournemouth and then get injured in the same game? I will be happy to be corrected.

You’re way out on that one Vino.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:22 am

piston broke wrote:We are believing it’s his hammy from the pre-season game but in a Sky report on the Republic squad they say he is out with an ankle problem. Oh! Oh!

He is, which is why he is still to play in the u23s. Very close to fitness though, I'd expect him to play an u23 game in the next week or two.

775claret · Post by **775claret** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:20 am

Brady is playing today in an U23 friendly against Bolton.

Good news.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:42 pm

775claret wrote:Brady is playing today in an U23 friendly against Bolton.

Good news.

I hope so and hope he come through it very well!!

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:44 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Yeah, now I seem to remember he tried and shot and did he kick the leg of a Leicester defender, Maguire?

Thought it at the time and still maintain it to this day that Brady `allowed` the ball to get away from him and aggressively (with frustration as his only driving force) `lashed out` in the general direction of...

I could be wrong, probably am but after numerous viewings came to the conclusion that it was a self-inflicted injury.

Geez how we`re missing him!!!!!!

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:54 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Thought it at the time and still maintain it to this day that Brady `allowed` the ball to get away from him and aggressively (with frustration as his only driving force) `lashed out` in the general direction of...

I could be wrong, probably am but after numerous viewings came to the conclusion that it was a self-inflicted injury.

Geez how we`re missing him!!!!!!

Felt it was a more a poor first touch and then commitment than anything malicious but certainly self-inflicted.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:04 pm

piston broke wrote:Felt it was a more a poor first touch and then commitment than anything malicious but certainly self-inflicted.

You`re more than likely right but I actually thought that if he hadn`t have been stretchered off, he`d have been sent off.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:08 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Eye it be better in the old days when they had a pint and a cigarette at half time...

Not sure If your taking the p8ss but modern athletics and sports science has moved on.

I think his point was mate that back then there weren't the 'niggling' injuries as much that now seem to keep players out for weeks and it may be because of modern training methods I don't know. It seems that the more highly tuned something is (whether it be a man or a machine) the less reliable it is. The classic case is the formula one racing car, capable of amazing speed and road holding but more liable to breakdowns than a ten year old Mondeo.
On the flip side though injuries then seemed to be more serious and potentially career threatening. The one thing I am sure of now though is that clubs are far more cautious with players who are injured, probably because of the vast sums of money paid for them and to them. The financial consequences back then were not even really a consideration and players were risked far more readily.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:40 pm

houseboy wrote:I think his point was mate that back then there weren't the 'niggling' injuries as much that now seem to keep players out for weeks and it may be because of modern training methods I don't know. It seems that the more highly tuned something is (whether it be a man or a machine) the less reliable it is. The classic case is the formula one racing car, capable of amazing speed and road holding but more liable to breakdowns than a ten year old Mondeo.
On the flip side though injuries then seemed to be more serious and potentially career threatening. The one thing I am sure of now though is that clubs are far more cautious with players who are injured, probably because of the vast sums of money paid for them and to them. The financial consequences back then were not even really a consideration and players were risked far more readily.

There is of course the financial consequences of paying them shed loads of money to sit on their a**e

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:21 pm

Down_Rover wrote:There is of course the financial consequences of paying them shed loads of money to sit on their a**e

Absolutely. But that is less important long term due to sell-on values etc.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:26 pm

houseboy wrote:Absolutely. But that is less important long term due to sell-on values etc.

It’s also not in the player’s best interests to return from an injury until properly recovered as this could harm their career and future potential earnings. It basically boils down to advancements in sports science and it’s absolutely the right thing for all parties to ensure that players are fit and well enough to play.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:31 pm

Rileybobs wrote:It’s also not in the player’s best interests to return from an injury until properly recovered as this could harm their career and future potential earnings. It basically boils down to advancements in sports science and it’s absolutely the right thing for all parties to ensure that players are fit and well enough to play.

Totally agree. No matter what we think about footballer's earnings (IT STINKS DO YOU HEAR, I TELL YOU IT STINKS, WHY SHOULD THEY.....) they are human after all and no-one wants to spend the rest of their life crippled and in pain. I don't think top players these days need to be overly concerned about money issues if they are forced to retire but nobody wants a lifelong disability, however small.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:35 pm

houseboy wrote:Totally agree. No matter what we think about footballer's earnings (IT STINKS DO YOU HEAR, I TELL YOU IT STINKS, WHY SHOULD THEY.....) they are human after all and no-one wants to spend the rest of their life crippled and in pain. I don't think top players these days need to be overly concerned about money issues if they are forced to retire but nobody wants a lifelong disability, however small.

I wonder if the club would be liable if Defour, for example, was encouraged into playing against Wolves next weekend, contrary to independent medical advice, and caused himself an injury leaving him out of contract and without a club next summer. I bet they would.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:37 pm

Rileybobs wrote:I wonder if the club would be liable if Defour, for example, was encouraged into playing against Wolves next weekend, contrary to independent medical advice, and caused himself an injury leaving him out of contract and without a club next summer. I bet they would.

I'm absolutely certain some no-win-no-fee ambulance chasers would convince him he had a claim for that 'accident he had about 3 years ago'.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:01 pm

775claret wrote:Brady is playing today in an U23 friendly against Bolton.

Good news.

How did they get on ?

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:13 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:How did they get on ?

Cant see anything about this game anywhere.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:13 pm

houseboy wrote:Absolutely. But that is less important long term due to sell-on values etc.

I don't pretend to know him, but I bet he is itching to get back.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:51 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:Cant see anything about this game anywhere.

Me neither thats why i asked . I know we play them on the 17th september

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:55 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Me neither thats why i asked . I know we play them on the 17th september

That's probably when they are playing then, not today.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:04 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Eye it be better in the old days when they had a pint and a cigarette at half time...

Not sure If your taking the p8ss but modern athletics and sports science has moved on.

Or the two pints before the game before getting on the bus to the game as my father told me players used to do at the Rams Head in Rawtenstall.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:35 pm

CombatClaret wrote:Eye it be better in the old days when they had a pint and a cigarette at half time...

Not sure If your taking the p8ss but modern athletics and sports science has moved on.

They vape instead these days

775claret · Post by **775claret** » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:14 pm

Won 3-2.

But Brady didn't play.