Birmingham possible 12 point deduction

[bumba]

Birmingham face a possible 12 point deduction for spending 2 million on a player whilst under a transfer embargo due to losses of over £39 million.
Begs the question how do Blackburn keep getting away with there debts, not put on a transfer embargo and allowed to keep spending millions on players when there in huge debt.
They've made big losses for years haven't they?

[Woodleyclaret]

Certain clubs operate with imunity over the years Bolton Leicester Cardiff QPR Leeds and West Ham have all spent way above their means but Harry Rednaps dog helped them as a tax consultant so they all escaped penalty fines.QPR have negotiated a settlement that bears little relationship to the actual losses.

[bumba]

Certain clubs operate with imunity over the years Bolton Leicester Cardiff QPR Leeds and West Ham have all spent way above their means but Harry Rednaps dog helped them as a tax consultant so they all escaped penalty fines.QPR have negotiated a settlement that bears little relationship to the actual losses.

Was it not Bournemouth and Leicester who spent way over budget and broke the rules but agreed a settlement of 3/4 million once already promoted?

Easy way to deal with it is to say any club promoted cannot sign players until the money gained from promotion has paid off all debts

[Lancasterclaret]

This is an excellent summary on why the fine v QPR isn't going to deter anyone

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[bumba]

Teams are never punished properly

[FactualFrank]

Teams are never punished properly

Nail - On - Head.

Why do we even discuss this? Teams will get away with whatever the hell they like - they will never be punished properly. Ever.

[Claretforever]

The penalty should have always been points deductions anyway. That’s the only way you’ll cause pain to a club with loads of money.

[Buxtonclaret]

The penalty should have always been points deductions anyway. That’s the only way you’ll cause pain to a club with loads of money.

Said that for a long time.
Points deductions would bite better.
Plus the fines for charity (grass roots footy).

[Barry_Chuckle]

Relegation to League 2 and a fine is the only thing which would deter this.

[FactualFrank]

Relegation to League 2 and a fine is the only thing which would deter this.

Along those lines, yes.

[mybloodisclaret]

I'd love it if they took 12 points off rovers. Absolutely love it, they were getting a bit mouthy again until they got slapped off Bristol.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Don't the league/FA have to approve all transfers?

If they were under an embargo how was the deal approved?

[ClaretTony]

Don't the league/FA have to approve all transfers?

If they were under an embargo how was the deal approved?

That would require the Football League to be a competent outfit and that’s highly unlikely with Shaun Harvey in charge.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Having just read up on who Harvey is, I think I'll agree with you.

[aggi]

Was it not Bournemouth and Leicester who spent way over budget and broke the rules but agreed a settlement of 3/4 million once already promoted?

Easy way to deal with it is to say any club promoted cannot sign players until the money gained from promotion has paid off all debts

The issue with that (apart from arguments about existing Premier League teams not having to pay off debts, etc) is that the Premier League don't really care and once a club is promoted they don't need the approval of the Football League for signings as they're not in their league.

[bumba]

The issue with that (apart from arguments about existing Premier League teams not having to pay off debts, etc) is that the Premier League don't really care and once a club is promoted they don't need the approval of the Football League for signings as they're not in their league.

The football league could refuse promotion unless a club is clear of debts

[GodIsADeeJay81]

The football league could refuse promotion unless a club is clear of debts

They have the ability to refuse re-entry when they come back down, but they don't seem to able to enforce their own rules most of the time.

[bfcmik]

The football league could refuse promotion unless a club is clear of debts

Not quite sure how they could legally manage to enforce that. The clubs concerned receive a share in the PL which an entirely different organisation and would just move to that. Refusing to let them move or, in the case of relegation, refusing to allow them to return to the Championship would break the current agreement and play right into the hands of the big clubs who would be happy to see no promotion or relegation between the Premier League and the EFL. The PL moan enough about having to make parachute payments as it is.