Marvin Sordell depressed/suicide attempt

[Dante.El.Chunk]

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[BurnleyPaul]

I sincerely hope that we’re not the club he’s referring to and that we’re more understanding than whoever it is that he’s obliquely talking about.

Fair play to him for going public- a brave man! I hope things work out for him and that he is able to lead a long, happy and fulfilling life; whatever field he ends up in.

[ClaretTony]

I knew he suffered from depression but didn’t realise it was as bad as this. It all seems to have been at its worst when he was at Bolton.

[Chester Perry]

I sincerely hope that we’re not the club he’s referring to and that we’re more understanding than whoever it is that he’s obliquely talking about.

It that led to his suicide attempt in August 2013 it was not us, don't think SD would tell a player not to cook or play the piano either, or change his contract for the worse

[evensteadiereddie]

An interesting and clever bloke telling a story that might have one or two so-called "man-managers" feeling a tad embarrassed.

[Hipper]

Reading that Guardian article tells me he's just not suited to team sports and he can solve his problems by doing something else.

[Claretmatt4]

Bit of a click bait headline that. I thought it was a breaking story.

[Taffy on the wing]

I knew he suffered from depression but didn’t realise it was as bad as this. It all seems to have been at its worst when he was at Bolton.

Bolton could do that to anyone TBH.

[evensteadiereddie]

He's probably too much of a thinker, possibly too intelligent, to fall into the culture of some clubs. Clough jnr. will see him right.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Awfully sad. And shows you should always think about how you treat others. Even players. And even online.

Some of the vile messages posted about the ability and effort of Sordell, Treacy, Lennon and Walters all three of whom clearly have / had dark issues is pathetic. Yet because they are famous or rich it is deemed acceptable. Same goes for Carlisle too.

Who knows, Jutkewicz, Wells, Wood, Hendrick, Bardsley and various others who are the brunt of more extreme criticism than others, may also suffer similarly.

We should be supportive of our players. Criticism is of course acceptable. But some of the stuff posted is embarrassing at times.

Walters:

'Exactly, he did look on the verge of becoming a disruptive shithouse'
'Good, we don't need players like him around, especially when we all need to be pulling together in the same direction.'
'There’s a reason the great man has got rid when we have injuries all over the shop. Bad apple.'


Doesnt matter how rich you are. How famous you are. Anyone can suffer. I for one wouldnt sacrifice my life for their lack of freedom!

[tim_noone]

You can't remember Brenda n O'Connell.

[Rileybobs]

Awfully sad. And shows you should always think about how you treat others. Even players. And even online.

Some of the vile messages posted about the ability and effort of Sordell, Treacy, Lennon and Walters all three of whom clearly have / had dark issues is pathetic. Yet because they are famous or rich it is deemed acceptable. Same goes for Carlisle too.

Who knows, Jutkewicz, Wells, Wood, Hendrick, Bardsley and various others who are the brunt of more extreme criticism than others, may also suffer similarly.

We should be supportive of our players. Criticism is of course acceptable. But some of the stuff posted is embarrassing at times.

Walters:

'Exactly, he did look on the verge of becoming a disruptive shithouse'
'Good, we don't need players like him around, especially when we all need to be pulling together in the same direction.'
'There’s a reason the great man has got rid when we have injuries all over the shop. Bad apple.'


Doesnt matter how rich you are. How famous you are. Anyone can suffer. I for one wouldnt sacrifice my life for their lack of freedom!

Agreed. There’s some unnecessary, venomous posts about certain players that certainly isn’t warranted. Of course, professional footballers shouldn’t be loitering on football messageboards if they can’t handle criticism, but you can bet your bottom dollar many will.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Agreed. There’s some unnecessary, venomous posts about certain players that certainly isn’t warranted. Of course, professional footballers shouldn’t be loitering on football messageboards if they can’t handle criticism, but you can bet your bottom dollar many will.

I can understand why they would. But if i was of a certain mentality not a chance I would!

[Wile E Coyote]

football is big business, unfortunately players are regarded as mere commodities thesedays. we as fans get wrapped up in the farce and comment accordingly. Its not really for us to tread carefully so as to avoid hurting feelings. Sadly that is the game.

[Foulthrow]

I saw Sordell play at Accy on Saturday. Had a fairly average game, stuck out wide but played an important role in Burton’s goal.

[ŽižkovClaret]

'Exactly, he did look on the verge of becoming a disruptive shithouse'

I'd stand by that. Walters was starting to tweet indicating he was unsettled and evidently isnt opposed to squaring up to his manager / coach according to the ROI reports (deserved when it comes to Keane it seems).

he needed to leave, he has, and seems more suited to Ipswich in the current time and place. Good luck to him, however had he stayed, he would have been disruptive.

[tiger76]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45510063 Marvin is calling for full-time counsellors at clubs,it's bizarre that the physical health of the players is surrounded by high-tech sports scientists,but their mental health is not prioritised to the same extent.

[South West Claret.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45510063 Marvin is calling for full-time counsellors at clubs,it's bizarre that the physical health of the players is surrounded by high-tech sports scientists,but their mental health is not prioritised to the same extent.

I’m not sure that is the case at Burnley but could be wrong.

[tiger76]

I’m not sure that is the case at Burnley but could be wrong.

You would think with the resources in the top 2 English divisions there would be ample support,whether professionals lower down the pyramid have similar backing maybe open to question.

[cricketfieldclarets]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45510063 Marvin is calling for full-time counsellors at clubs,it's bizarre that the physical health of the players is surrounded by high-tech sports scientists,but their mental health is not prioritised to the same extent.

The problem is its easy to diagnose a physical injury. Most suicidal or depressed people wont even speak about the issue.

[Spike]

seems he hit rock bottom along with Bolton in 2013

[houseboy]

Mental illness is the scurge of modern society, it is quite often not diagnosed and sufferers look fit and healthy. When people complain of being depressed or having anxiety attacks the normal response is along the lines of 'pull yourself together' like you are some set of bloody curtains. Many people, to varying degrees, suffer the dark side of the mind and it can take years to get over, sometimes never. A lot of the time all you can do is manage it. Anxiety never really goes away and that feeling of panic and dread can hit you at any time but, once you realise what it is and that it does pass, you learn to manage it and in a way it makes you stronger. Too many people make fun of people who are 'nuts' but the reality is that living in a nightmare that you cannot wake up from is a living hell and until, if ever, you learn to deal with it it can destroy your life and relationships.
What many people don't understand is that sufferers don't think they are in any way special and many don't seek help because being 'a bit mad' is still to this day something of a stigma. They don't want special treatment and they don't want sympathy, all they want is for it all to go away but too often they feel they can't turn to anyone to achieve that.
The most important thing anyone EVER said to me was 'Let me tell you from the start I can't help you, I can only help you to help yourself'. Yes it was a psychiatrist and yes I was/am a sufferer, but now I can handle life and everything damn thing it throws at me because when that bloody monster comes calling I know it can't beat me and that is the whole battle.
I can tell people about this now and laugh about it but 30-odd years ago for 3-4 years only a small handfull of people knew. It cost me my first marriage and many weeks off work, not to mention years of medication but now it's (hopefully) over. Has it gone? No. But I can handle it now.
What relevance has this to a football site? Well, none really apart from the fact that, oddly, my first real attack came whilst standing on the Longside enjoying a game when all of a sudden I didn't want to be there. I didn't set foot on the Turf for several years after that. My first game back was a strange feeling but it HAD to be done. I did it and it has never been a problem since.

Sorry to have gone on a bit.

[ecc]

Fair play to your houseboy. I'm very glad you seem to be winning your battle.

[houseboy]

Fair play to your houseboy. I'm very glad you seem to be winning your battle.

To be honest I don't see it as a battle now, it's more a part of my life that's been ring fenced and put to bed. I appreciate your comment though. The one thing good that did come out of it was a young lass who I worked with started with it and I had told her about my experience, she sought help and kept talking to me. She is now a beautiful and confident young woman who runs her own business. We still keep in touch and we will be forever friends.