Burnley town centre refurbishment

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Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by karatekid » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:17 am

Just a snippet from the new plans that may interest us fans, courtesy of burnley express online.

Another long-term aspiration is to revamp Yorkshire Street. This could include improving pedestrian access to Turf Moor. The report states: “The large roundabout junction arrangement at the Church Street/Centenary Way/Yorkshire Road junction is very unhelpful to pedestrian movement across all junction approaches and the pedestrian subway is uninviting.” The masterplan proposes a redesign of the junction, with additional space given over to pedestrians: “There is also great potential to formalise the processional route to Turf Moor with lighting columns, signage / flags, and tree planting, which would add to the sense of occasion on match days.”

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:24 am

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by bobinho » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:28 am

Could’ve started right at the big pink and lilac bus station. Bloody thing should’ve been claret and blue. The buses should be claret and blue. Railings should be claret and blue. The whole bloody town should be decked out in claret and blue.

Yorkshire st could be so much better, and it’ll cost a few quid to sort out. We’ll see.

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:43 am

Day one of the bulldozer on Yorkshire Street would cause untold improvements.

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Post by Better Call Saul » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:44 am

And while there at it, Yorkshire Street should be renamed Lancashire Street.
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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Pstotto » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:50 am

Where the bandstand was and what was once a thriving part of Burnley with a central bus stand and town centre liveliness, is now a concrete wasteland. In winter it is as desolate as the moon.

There is no reason, given the ground acreage, why an architectural development could not be built from the Swan Inn to where Benns Toy Shop used to be, with alley ways and boutique shops and cafes and pubs and a new 'quarter' for the town, perhaps including flats above.

Think the medieval quarter of Barcelona etc. or the shambles in York, or whatever it needs to inspire somebody that matters.
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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:50 am

Semtex would help.
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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Pstotto » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:50 am

It worked for Manchester and without injury to persons as far as I know.

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Claretforever » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:21 am

Yorkshire Street is a mess!

I pass through it a lot, and you'd think after years I'd be blinded to the view, but I'm not. It's such a shame when you see pictures from decades ago when it looked far cleaner and more uniform. I don't know, maybe the black and white images helped?

I sigh when travelling through other towns (not all as some are far worse than ours - Luton, Worksop etc), when seeing that the local council obviously have strict rules with regards to signage (Lutterworth, Shrewsbury etc), ensuring little to no garish neon signs on takeaways, and having uniformity of the buildings and windows. The buildings around there are falling down, and either need to be compulsory purchased and renovated, or demolished. The old Footballer's Arms is one of those buildings, as is the RDA building.

I wish our town planners would be stricter with regards to shop fascias, and force those takeaways down there to sort their building out. Even if it meant part payment with the council, or cheaper rates for a while. Blooming eye sores.

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by MRG » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:28 am

The building at the end of Plumbe Street has been empty for around 30 years. I find myself wondering how a landlord can afford to have a building sit empty for that long or why you wouldn’t try to sell it

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Tribesmen » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:30 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:Semtex would help.
Hummm maybe be able to help you there ;)

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Claretforever » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:34 am

MRG wrote:The building at the end of Plumbe Street has been empty for around 30 years. I find myself wondering how a landlord can afford to have a building sit empty for that long or why you wouldn’t try to sell it
I suspect that the building isn't fit to be used by another business without huge sums being spent on it. It looks a mess.

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:36 am

Burnley looks tired. But one of the main reasons is the shops with old dusty signage, flaking paint, old windows and disused wires flapping about. I think if landlords, owners and tenants of the shops, pubs and other buildings took more pride, it would look much nicer.

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:59 am

Tribesmen wrote:Hummm maybe be able to help you there ;)
The spooks should be a-knocking on your door - or booting it in - by tea-time................ :lol:

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Loyalclaret » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:11 pm

MRG wrote:The building at the end of Plumbe Street has been empty for around 30 years. I find myself wondering how a landlord can afford to have a building sit empty for that long or why you wouldn’t try to sell it
Could it be tax related?

I know a friend tried to buy a town centre premise that had been empty, at market price, for four years but the owner would not sell it.

Sure one of our resident accountants could de-bunk that theory if incorrect!

Personally I think they’ve done a good job with the town centre and look forward to them improving Yorkshire Street. With the developments in the pipe line at the other end of town near Primark- things are looking up for the town centre.

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:15 pm

Levelling the Kierby complex would be a start. Also levelling the Adelphi and Reindeer Hotels. 1st impressions last and our main bus station and train station are surrounded by sh!tholes. Look at the mess that Croft St. is. Sidewalk 53 has been derelict for over a decade and that whole row facing the bus station is a disgrace

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Goobs » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:18 pm

Better Call Saul wrote:And while there at it, Yorkshire Street should be renamed Lancashire Street.
Why he wasn't even that good. Surely Conroy Close, or Payton Place would be better? ;)

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Clarets4me » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:29 pm

A big improvement would be a clean up and facelift for Westgate from the Mitre lights down to Kwikfit / B&M Bargains traffic lights.

The houses and retaining walls on the right hand side should be sand/water blasted and de-weeded, the disused car park just past Chorley Nissan be purchased & brought into use, and whilst the " Plane Tree " may now house luxury flats, the outside is covered in weeds and looks like a dosshouse from the outside....

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by LoveCurryPies » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:35 pm

I hope the planners also think about the car drivers who travel from around the country. It's chaos trying to get away from Turf Moor.

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:38 pm

"Old dusty signage, flaking paint, old windows and disused wires flapping about. "
Describes perfectly the Bob Lord stand exterior until its recent long overdue freshen up

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by bumba » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:42 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Levelling the Kierby complex would be a start. Also levelling the Adelphi and Reindeer Hotels. 1st impressions last and our main bus station and train station are surrounded by sh!tholes. Look at the mess that Croft St. is. Sidewalk 53 has been derelict for over a decade and that whole row facing the bus station is a disgrace
Sidewalk53 has been bought and is already transforming behind the scenes. Upstairs and downstairs going to be completely refurbished unfortunately not a pub tho!
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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:44 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Levelling the Kierby complex would be a start. Also levelling the Adelphi and Reindeer Hotels. 1st impressions last and our main bus station and train station are surrounded by sh!tholes. Look at the mess that Croft St. is. Sidewalk 53 has been derelict for over a decade and that whole row facing the bus station is a disgrace

That is where a "Shambles" type shopping area should be

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by MRG » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:51 pm

bumba wrote:Sidewalk53 has been bought and is already transforming behind the scenes. Upstairs and downstairs going to be completely refurbished unfortunately not a pub tho!
What’s it going to be?

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by bfcjg » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:56 pm

I am quite impressed with the flagging and trees on st James st, especially at night when they are lit up.
Re Yorkshire st not sure what you could do with it, the shops are tired the takeaways are tired but will the owners contribute anything to them being given a facelift ? Doubt it.

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Post by SammyBoy » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:04 pm

I could imagine an attempt to create a Shambles in Burnley turning into exactly that :lol:
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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by lrac » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:42 pm

Your town is heavenly .just compare it to Keighley near to me .I think you will change your minds .now Keighley is a real dump.

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Post by Claretforever » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:30 pm

lrac wrote:Your town is heavenly .just compare it to Keighley near to me .I think you will change your minds .now Keighley is a real dump.
I mentioned Luton further up. Now I didn't expect anything as such when I was there for a couple of days last week for work but blimey, Burnley looks like Kensington in comparison. Even Trowbridge near Bath is very much like Burnley, yet I expected more down there. Swindon is just like Burnley, and I might argue worse, and Worsksop, and even parts of Leeds are rough. We're no different than many areas all around the country, but it doesn't mean we should be happy and accept it.

On the whole Burnley isn't bad, but we do have small pockets we could make look better, especially the main through roads into and out of town particularly, as that's what people see. Away fans travelling to Burnley (in the Premier League it's thousands most home games), for example, always see Yorkshire Street and the terraced streets at the back of Belvedere Road when parking cars, which are very run down.

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Somethingfishy » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:33 pm

MRG wrote:What’s it going to be?
A charity shop perhaps? To compete with the BHF next door? :roll:

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Post by SammyBoy » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:06 pm

lrac wrote:Your town is heavenly .just compare it to Keighley near to me .I think you will change your minds .now Keighley is a real dump.
You're not wrong, my girlfriend lives in Steeton and we sometimes venture into Keighley as the closest big Supermarkets are there. Complete dive, I'd describe it as Burnley without any of the positives.

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:17 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Semtex would help.
Want me to pick some up? They make it down t'road

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:18 pm

Pstotto wrote:It worked for Manchester and without injury to persons as far as I know.
Without death, there certainly was some injuries

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Re: Burnley town centre refurbishment

Post by Tribesmen » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:43 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:The spooks should be a-knocking on your door - or booting it in - by tea-time................ :lol:
8-)

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Post by ChrisG » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:06 pm

There's a conference coming up discussing the future of the town centre, just seen this on Place Northwest

https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/b ... dium=email" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by lrac » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:10 pm

SammyBoy wrote:You're not wrong, my girlfriend lives in Steeton and we sometimes venture into Keighley as the closest big Supermarkets are there. Complete dive, I'd describe it as Burnley without any of the positives.
Ok just my opinion .so you see Asda and Sainsbury's ok .

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Post by Claretforever » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:39 pm

ChrisG wrote:There's a conference coming up discussing the future of the town centre, just seen this on Place Northwest

https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/b ... dium=email" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If anybody is attending(I haven’t read it) then suggesting some town standards would be a start. And cleaning and updating the main through roads.

Yorkshire street does need some serious money spending on it, as does Belvedere Road.

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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:57 pm

Clarets4me wrote:A big improvement would be a clean up and facelift for Westgate from the Mitre lights down to Kwikfit / B&M Bargains traffic lights.

The houses and retaining walls on the right hand side should be sand/water blasted and de-weeded, the disused car park just past Chorley Nissan be purchased & brought into use, and whilst the " Plane Tree " may now house luxury flats, the outside is covered in weeds and looks like a dosshouse from the outside....
I couldn't believe how whoever redeveloped the Plane Tree, long overdue, left the outside looking so tatty, still got the old rotting sign up, for the sake of a couple of days work.

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Post by Loyalclaret » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:58 pm

The ‘artist impression’ on Burnley Council’s Facebook of Yorkshire Street is hilarious :lol: :lol:

The lad waving the Burnley flag, please someone get it up on here!

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Post by Claretforever » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:02 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:The ‘artist impression’ on Burnley Council’s Facebook of Yorkshire Street is hilarious :lol: :lol:

The lad waving the Burnley flag, please someone get it up on here!
Image

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Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:16 pm

If Yorkshire Street ends up looking like that I’ll buy a ST at Deadwood

(And by looking like that I mean including the idiot with the flag and Prince William treating the blonde to a Cha Cha’s)

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Post by RMutt » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:27 pm

Ha ha, artists impression indeed. I think someone on the council pocketed the cash and got their eight year old to do it. Hilarious, but rather worrying too if they want the plan to be taken seriously.

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Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:38 pm

It's a laudable idea as it definitely needs sorting and (the bizarre street people/cut outs aside), it doesn't look bad to me, but they need to seriously think about traffic on Yorkshire St as it's constantly snarling up on there most times of most days and backing onto the roundabout.

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Post by Billy Balfour » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:48 pm

At least they got the flock of crows right. They're going to fly over Ewood tomorrow.

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Post by Loyalclaret » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:54 pm

Thought the blimp had been located but realised someone was flying a kite near the Wellington

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Post by tim_noone » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:21 pm

I'd like burnley to take a leaf out of nelsons book...cracking town centre.burnleys just full of bookies and pound shops and the odd black pudding stall.

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Post by tim_noone » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:27 pm

Pimlico_Claret wrote:I couldn't believe how whoever redeveloped the Plane Tree, long overdue, left the outside looking so tatty, still got the old rotting sign up, for the sake of a couple of days work.
It's called character. :roll:

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Post by Rileybobs » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:50 am

That artist’s impression is unbelievably poor.
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Post by The Enclosure » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:36 am

tim_noone wrote:I'd like burnley to take a leaf out of nelsons book...cracking town centre.burnleys just full of bookies and pound shops and the odd black pudding stall.
You missed off a few smilies there Tim.

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Post by ClaretMoffitt » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:58 am

tim_noone wrote:I'd like burnley to take a leaf out of nelsons book...cracking town centre.burnleys just full of bookies and pound shops and the odd black pudding stall.
Lol

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Post by Volvoclaret » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:51 pm

Drove through Keighley last week, first time in 10 years, what a dump. How can a council allow a town to fall into such disrepair in such a short time.
On the artists impression, why are the two guys wearing Burnley flags walking AWAY from the Turf?

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Post by tim_noone » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:31 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:Drove through Keighley last week, first time in 10 years, what a dump. How can a council allow a town to fall into such disrepair in such a short time.
On the artists impression, why are the two guys wearing Burnley flags walking AWAY from the Turf?
As we were losing 0..1 with 15 minutes to go in a crucial game they decided to leave early for a latte in the newly refurbished town centre.

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