Petrov and Boshirov

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:27 pm

Do you believe that they were tourists and just sightseeing in Salisbury or do you believe the British Government's allegations?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:35 pm

Old Petty and Boshy sound like a couple of stand up guys. Seems like they were just doing a bit of sightseeing and found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time. They must be gutted that the weather prevented them from even seeing the cathedral. I hope once all this has blown over the UK government recompense them with an all-expenses paid trip during the summer months so that they can enjoy all that the beautiful city has to offer.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:39 pm

They flew into London and travelled to Salisbury just o look at the Cathedral and left quickly at the same time as the poisonings. OK then.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:40 pm

Blackrod wrote:They flew into London and travelled to Salisbury just o look at the Cathedral and left quickly at the same time as the poisonings. OK then.

But it was snowing!!!!!!!

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:42 pm

It's the new trend in holidays....poisoning tours.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:44 pm

I agree with Rileybobs.
A couple of Government chaps (say from around the Vauxhall Bridge area) should accompany this pair of innocents on a personal sightseeing tour of (the very beautiful) Salisbury Cathedral spire. I believe the view from up there is moving and makes the spirits fly; but then, of course, the esteemed Russian civilians would have to come back down to earth and face reality head-on.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:53 pm

This is certainly as believable as when Lugovoi and Kovtun were just enjoying a nice cup of tea with Litvinenko at a London hotel but were nothing to do with the poisoning at that time.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:55 pm

Anyone who had any doubt that it was the Russians will be struggling now to think it was anyone else now.

Quite impressive though as it shows the control that Putin has over Russia is that he knows he can do this kind of thing completely without any fear of any internal repercussions getting to him.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:55 pm

Blackrod wrote:This is certainly as believable as when Lugovoi and Kovtun were just enjoying a nice cup of tea with Litvinenko at a London hotel but were nothing to do with the poisoning at that time.

Not really, that London hotel doesn’t have a 123m high spire - Salisbury Cathedral does. Who wouldn’t want to see a 123m high spire?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:00 pm

On a plus side, its always nice when Russian tourist plans are hit by, er, snow.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:05 pm

They also forgot to mention that one of the best original manuscripts of the magna catra and freedom of movement, the right to a fair trial'
The recommenced time for a visit is about 3 hrs, however it does say if you are in a hurry most of the important things can be seen in 45mins. This falls in line with the speed touring that has replaced speed dating. Of course to get a handle on it you need to be quick and not lose your bottle.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:06 pm

Coming from Russia they probably were not used to the cold and snow.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:08 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Anyone who had any doubt that it was the Russians will be struggling now to think it was anyone else now.

Quite impressive though as it shows the control that Putin has over Russia is that he knows he can do this kind of thing completely without any fear of any internal repercussions getting to him.

The Brits are more discreet though who could possibly link climbing into a hold hall and fastening the lock on the outside with a crime?

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:09 pm

No problem Mr Putin, if that's the case that they were just innocent tourist then send them over for our specialists to interview them, problem solved.

PhilC · Post by **PhilC** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:16 pm

I'm currently in Russia and it was on the news last night but the 3rd or 4th story, there are other big news going on here about pension reforms and meeting the Chinese PM. The pension reforms here have made people a bit upset.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:19 pm

"I'm currently in Russia and it was on the news last night but the 3rd or 4th story, there are other big news going on here about pension reforms and meeting the Chinese PM. The pension reforms here have made people a bit upset."

Any mention of Idlib?

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:25 pm

It sort of makes me want to go to Salisbury, just to check out the cathedral. There'll be a Novichok tour by next summer.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:28 pm

"Novichok and chill"

PhilC · Post by **PhilC** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:29 pm

Idlib?

PhilC · Post by **PhilC** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:33 pm

Ahhh Syria, yep there was an imgae that came up as an article. I can't speak Russian so no idea what they were saying.

I'd had too much Horseradish Vodka by then.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:51 pm

Haha- seen a translation of their interview in The Telegraph now- totally unbelievable - stuff about having gone to Salisbury to visit The Cathedral & Stonehenge etc (and having come all the way from Russia for that, being put off by a bit of slush and just having a walk round and returning to London on the train).

They say they're in "the fitness industry" but cant be very specific about exactly what.
I guess it's something like: seeing if people are fit enough to withstand a dose of Novichok.

As Lancaster said above though- shows how easily Putin can & does get his way when these two can wheel out such a crap and unbelievable account of themselves without fear of it being ridiculed inside Russia.

PhilC · Post by **PhilC** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:55 pm

Putin's popularity has dropped massively recently from 83% to 67%. Don't think that the story is being ridiculed by the people in Russia in general conversations.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:09 pm

Vlad's impalers.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:25 pm

If there weren’t dead and ill people involved, I’d have found this hilarious.

The bit about Russians being put off because of a bit of slush.
The bit about coming to Europe to search for biologically active additives.
The bit about maybe approaching the house in question but they didn’t know who lived there.

These guys are either a pair of trained assassins or jokers of the standard of Laurel and Hardy.

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:31 pm

It is fairly obvious that there are holes in there story I can’t for the life of me work out why it isn’t more polished they have had enough time to sort it unless as said above they don’t care if it is believed or not. The problem for me is that our side of things aren’t entirely hole free either but are our holes created by guesswork and not knowing or lies.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:53 pm

Not everybody in Salisbury is unhappy about recent events the Dog and Duck are doing a pint of Cillit bang and a Novichok chaser for £4 flying out apparently..

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:20 pm

Apparently their passport numbers only differ by a single digit. A massive coincidence I’m sure!

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:28 pm

If they really are spies/agents, they really are more than a bit crap at it and should be seriously thinking about a fresh career. Jonny English would have done a better job of covering his tracks.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:46 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:"Novichok and chill"

It's the Salisbury equivalent of Bene and Hots!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:50 pm

Two Russion blokes on a tourist trip to Salisbury and back...Sounds odd with the first 3 words.

Still they have put the Cathedral spire back on the tourist trail and the original clock...with no hands.

As mentioned above, they forgot the Magna Catmrta original. Oddly, they never went to Stonehenge! Can't think of another tourist in the world, travelling that far, that would not have travelled on to Stonehenge!

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:54 pm

If they really are spies/agents, they really are more than a bit crap at it and should be seriously thinking about a fresh career. Jonny English would have done a better job of covering his tracks.

They didn't do that badly. Almost killed Mr Skripal (& they won't give a toss about the collateral damage re Ms Skripal and the couple (Dawn & Charlie?). They got out of the country without being detained - and so will never face trial for what they did.
They probably succeeded in putting the frighteners on a few Putin dissenters around the world who now cant feel out of reach because they've left Russia.

On the down side: their careers as operatives outside of Russia are now over - but theyve probably done well enough to get a decently comfortable retirement. Most importantly, though, their chances of ever seeing Stonehenge or Salisbury Cathedral are now scuppered and that will really hit them bad.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:03 pm

The Enclosure wrote:Do you believe that they were tourists and just sightseeing in Salisbury or do you believe the British Government's allegations?

My motto is I refuse to believe anything I can’t see...you know like electricity

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:16 pm

To be fare to them I lived near Salisbury for over 3 years and never visited them either

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:35 pm

Genius!

https://twitter.com/RobJoyce156/status/ ... 0618029056" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:39 pm

I think we are all missing the point about the slush in Salisbury. These guys had come from Moscow. They were expecting at least 6 inches of snow. Slush just wasn't worth their efforts in visiting.

Anyway, where do your friends keep recommending you visit? I'm sure we can but a great list together for any future visitors.

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:52 pm

The Enclosure wrote:Do you believe that they were tourists and just sightseeing in Salisbury or do you believe the British Government's allegations?

I won't speak out against our future rulers puppets.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:04 pm

South West Claret. wrote:My motto is I refuse to believe anything I can’t see...you know like electricity

I might use that when the electric board knock on my Door.......

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:24 pm

IanMcL wrote:Two Russion blokes on a tourist trip to Salisbury and back...Sounds odd with the first 3 words.

Still they have put the Cathedral spire back on the tourist trail and the original clock...with no hands.

As mentioned above, they forgot the Magna Catmrta original. Oddly, they never went to Stonehenge! Can't think of another tourist in the world, travelling that far, that would not have travelled on to Stonehenge!

It used to be free to enter Stonehenge it's now run by an organised crime syndicate fleecing the tourists of their money selling tat and charging £20 + to visit the actual site which is surrounded by high fencing and security...they did well to avoid it.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:39 pm

You can just drive past Stonehenge and get a distant but decent look. That’s what I did last time I was on a quick in-and-out assassination.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:09 am

Rileybobs wrote:You can just drive past Stonehenge and get a distant but decent look. That’s what I did last time I was on a quick in-and-out assassination.

When I was there 2015.....they had rearranged the landscape with earth diggers etc so it was invisible to passing traffic. It can't be seen from any B Road as far as I'm aware.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:32 am

tim_noone wrote:When I was there 2015.....they had rearranged the landscape with earth diggers etc so it was invisible to passing traffic. It can't be seen from any B Road as far as I'm aware.

Mmmm, introducing bunds. Sneaky. I am probably going back as far as 2010 when you could definitely get a decent view from the road.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:37 am

tim_noone wrote:When I was there 2015.....they had rearranged the landscape with earth diggers etc so it was invisible to passing traffic. It can't be seen from any B Road as far as I'm aware.

Yes the fork off the A303, which ran alongside Stonehenge and to the car park and Old visitor centre was closed and the road was dug up and centre and car park removed. The new visitor centre is very busy.

The view from the A303 is pretty decent, as you whizz past or sit in a traffic jam!

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:44 am

Sneaky indeed= greed

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:41 am

You can see it clearly from the A303(?)

We drove past it this summer and visited it.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:59 am

Just to help out with the video times and having arrived in Salisbury to find that on winter time table Church closes at 4pm so they could not get in and had to come back on another date and time. so possibly after having seen it but not been in the following day they maybe only went in came out and decided to take a walk whilst waiting for return train, all plausible now.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:13 am

It’s not plausible.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:17 am

I've emailed your response to the Russian Embassy pure.

Its better than anything they have come up with, even though its still a load of ********!

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:33 am

Anyone thinking of visiting Salisbury - don't be put off!

The Cathedral is still the tallest spire in the UK, there are loads of great pubs and restaurants, some good shopping and there really aren't that many poisonings - especially when compared to Ukraine

You can see Stonehenge for free from the A303 or by walking from Woodhenge- or just borrow a National Trust or English Heritagr membership card

It's a bloomin' long way from Turf Moor though

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:46 am

Won't be long before the Trawden branch of Imbeciles-R-Us pops along to explain how it all fits neatly into a worldwide Zionist conspiracy.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:31 pm

They could just have used Corbyn's line. They were there holding the perfume bottle, but didn't actually take part....