Wolves Portuguese Imports v MIGHTY CLARETS

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:50 pm

Another promoted teams showing us how football should be played . We have stagnated . Not good enough by the board Dyche or the players. Pathetic.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:50 pm

Lost . Simple as that , we had to get on the front foot and didn't happen

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:51 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Like I've said before - that will be down to money. We can't cherry pick who we like, as other clubs offer higher wages due to having more money. We get the TV money and that's pretty much it. Other Prem clubs have TV money on top of an already wealthy board to back them.

Of course, overseas scouting could help, but in this country, we are left with what other clubs don't want - because if they did want them, they would simply double our wage offering. Wolves have players on 90-100k. What do we have - 40-50k?

We can afford more we made a hefty profit... we just aren’t willing to spend more.

Overseas scouting is an absolute must but Dyche isn’t interested what so ever. Transfer market is a huge limitation for Dyche and our board.

It’s looking very likely we will be playing in the championship next year anyway.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:51 pm

We look like relegation material to me.

Shocking shoxking lack of investment at summer has left us way short

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:51 pm

NickBFC wrote:Has Dyche got a plan b? Certainly needs one.

The plan B was Vydra, but when every player bar Hart and to an extent Hendrick has been solidly 3/10, it’s a total irrelevance what change you try to do.

The players look like a totally different set of players to the ones we watched last season. Taylor and Bardsley being your full backs is a large part of that as they are a million miles away from good enough.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:51 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Like I've said before - that will be down to money. We can't cherry pick who we like, as other clubs offer higher wages due to having more money. We get the TV money and that's pretty much it. Other Prem clubs have TV money on top of an already wealthy board to back them.

Of course, overseas scouting could help, but in this country, we are left with what other clubs don't want - because if they did want them, they would simply double our wage offering. Wolves have players on 90-100k. What do we have - 40-50k?

That’s utter rubbish
We finished 7th last season FFS

slw · Post by **slw** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:51 pm

time to reboot after this.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:51 pm

NickBFC wrote:Has Dyche got a plan b? Certainly needs one.

Dyche had a plan A - sign some players, the board screwed his plan A

Plan B was try and stay up with what we have

Plan B isn't working

Plan C ?

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:51 pm

If I were Dyche I’d be bringing on Adama Traore at this point. Sadly, it’s Wolves doing it instead.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:51 pm

Wolves bringing on the player we should have signed.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:51 pm

Dyche whispering into Woan’s ear, something along the lines of “let’s hoof it up to Vokes and pray”

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:52 pm

It's a good job Wolves can't shoot between the posts very well

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:52 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:The goal was always coming down the Taylor side...

Yet it was JBG who missed the challenge...

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:52 pm

Time for Westwood instead of Hendrick for me.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:52 pm

But what about the fine margins? What about 7th last season? What about 1987???

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:52 pm

joey13 wrote:That’s utter rubbish
We finished 7th last season FFS

We overachieved, nimrod. I remember you posting that a few times last season.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:53 pm

colne-claret wrote:Time for Westwood instead of Hendrick for me.

Literally the only outfield player we have had today, full stop.

Sub any of them bar Hendrick for me.

Flat Stanley · Post by **Flat Stanley** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:53 pm

Relegation fodder

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:54 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Dyche had a plan A - sign some players, the board screwed his plan A

Plan B was try and stay up with what we have

Plan B isn't working

Plan C ?

Possibly agree with A, but leaving Lowton out for Bardsley, and playing with two cart horses up front isn't down to the board.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:54 pm

This is this season,last season is history

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:54 pm

shot from Vydra, unlucky

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:54 pm

This is getting embarrasing

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:55 pm

What has happened, specifically to:

Tarkowski
Mee
Ward
Lowton
Cork
Barnes
Wood
Lennon
Gudmundsson

To make them all so much worse than last season - it’s chalk and cheese?

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:55 pm

Summer should’ve been used to prepare for Europe AND the Prem. As it turns out, we didn’t even prepare for the Prem.

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:55 pm

jedi_master wrote:Literally the only outfield player we have had today, full stop.

Sub any of them bar Hendrick for me.

He keeps losing the ball and putting us under pressure.

texasbrit · Post by **texasbrit** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:55 pm

the board couldn't care less as long as they have a healthy profit in the bank

they prevented Dyche from buying and building on last season team were it was obvious by our end of season run investment was needed and Dyche got nowt

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:56 pm

jedi_master wrote:What has happened, specifically to:

Tarkowski
Mee
Ward
Lowton
Cork
Barnes
Wood
Lennon
Gudmundsson

To make them all so much worse than last season - it’s chalk and cheese?

Where as last season they all looked super fit they all look absolutely knackered, it's like they've been over worked in pre-season

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:56 pm

jedi_master wrote:What has happened, specifically to:

Tarkowski
Mee
Ward
Lowton
Cork
Barnes
Wood
Lennon
Gudmundsson

To make them all so much worse than last season - it’s chalk and cheese?

Its ok they are just tired

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:56 pm

...confidence, it’s that simple - we have none

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:57 pm

texasbrit wrote:the board couldn't care less as long as they have a healthy profit in the bank

they prevented Dyche from buying and building on last season team were it was obvious by our end of season run investment was needed and Dyche got nowt

The problem is, the parachute payments will only last us so long. Maybe they're happy for us to bounce up and down, but that is a big risk to play,

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:57 pm

Wood on for Vokes

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:57 pm

colne-claret wrote:Time for Westwood instead of Hendrick for me.

Exactly our problem. If the extent of our ability to make a change is Westwood for Hendrick, it’s simply not good enough at this level.

Both have done OK this season but if we are being completely honest, their good enough isn’t good enough for this level.

A midfielder and a winger were an absolute must in the summer, despite plenty of claims that the squad was fine and “look what we achieved last season”.

Last season is gone, this league doesn’t stand still, but we have!

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:57 pm

Trying to hang in games obviously isn't working.

We need to be more adventurous.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:57 pm

At least JBG on his better side now, switching Lennon left

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:58 pm

texasbrit wrote:the board couldn't care less as long as they have a healthy profit in the bank

they prevented Dyche from buying and building on last season team were it was obvious by our end of season run investment was needed and Dyche got nowt

Be that as it may - this is Sean Dyche’s team, Sean Dyche’s tactics and we have not sold one player from the team he took to 7th (and added a little depth).

There is no excuse for how poor we are playing game after game that can be levelled at Mike Garlick.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:58 pm

We go again.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:59 pm

Even our hoofs aren’t remotely accurate anymore.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:00 pm

Heck.
Two Wolves players then, down the right, running rings around five of ours.

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:01 pm

DCWat wrote:Exactly our problem. If the extent of our ability to make a change is Westwood for Hendrick, it’s simply not good enough at this level.

Both have done OK this season but if we are being completely honest, their good enough isn’t good enough for this level.

A midfielder and a winger were an absolute must in the summer, despite plenty of claims that the squad was fine and “look what we achieved last season”.

Last season is gone, this league doesn’t stand still, but we have!

Enough wasn't done. Points needed to be picked up early this season. I don't care if people think I'm over reacting but are there three worse teams in the league than us? At the moment I don't think so.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:01 pm

jedi_master wrote:Be that as it may - this is Sean Dyche’s team, Sean Dyche’s tactics and we have not sold one player from the team he took to 7th (and added a little depth).

There is no excuse for how poor we are playing game after game that can be levelled at Mike Garlick.

False argument, Jedi. Last year’s team know they’ve reached their pinnacle. That psychology is huge in terms of performance at this level

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:01 pm

The only differentiation between our players is that some aren't good enough and some are seriously out of their depth. I exclude Hart.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:02 pm

Wolves have very much eased off. And they’re still creating more.

texasbrit · Post by **texasbrit** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:02 pm

jedi_master wrote:Be that as it may - this is Sean Dyche’s team, Sean Dyche’s tactics and we have not sold one player from the team he took to 7th (and added a little depth).

There is no excuse for how poor we are playing game after game that can be leveled at Mike Garlick.

Jedi your right it is Dyches team however whilst the rest of the PL have advance we haven't you cant expect Dyche to keep asking the same team to out perform without being developed with better players

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:02 pm

He didn't press the reset button, he pressed the retreat button and he did it on July 1st not Sept 16th.

In other words he bottled it due to Europe and went into his default defensive shell. From no fear to total panic. We have since struggled to create.

It could yet cost us everything.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:02 pm

Have been putting it down to a lack of confidence, but they are hardly busting a gut are they?

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:03 pm

Why does Dyche have to have a bloody meeting with Woan every time he thinks about a sub.?

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:04 pm

Lol
Should have been two then.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:04 pm

elwaclaret wrote:Have been putting it down to a lack of confidence, but they are hardly busting a gut are they?

The lack of effort is pathetic.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:04 pm

NRC wrote:False argument, Jedi. Last year’s team know they’ve reached their pinnacle. That psychology is huge in terms of performance at this level

I get that, I am not absolving our board of a shocking transfer window mate, at all.

I am simply saying that the team we are seeing is turning in a performance barely half as good on a man to man basis. The players I listed on a post further up have gone from some I would put in a 20 million valuation to looking Top 6 Championship (at best), the likes of Gudmundsson etc.

If that is due to complacency, I put that down to the management team to sort out psychologically.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:04 pm

Taylor and Lennon

The new laurel and hardy