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Joe Hart

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:30 pm

just said on the telebox

"we need to take a long hard look at ourselves, let's not kid ourselves we were smashed today and we've no excuse because we've had no midweek game, we look miles away from winning a game"

Let's hope the manager is as honest
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:33 pm

Can't argue with that
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:39 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:just said on the telebox

"we need to take a long hard look at ourselves, let's not kid ourselves we were smashed today and we've no excuse because we've had no midweek game, we look miles away from winning a game"

Let's hope the manager is as honest

Fair play, love the honesty, not sure Dyche will like how outspoken he is
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:41 pm

Kind of refreshing to hear (read) that. We know why Wolves were so much better, but even so, we could have made more of an effort. Lennon: Either take on your man or don't play.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:42 pm

He was top class again today. and when the goal went in the only who looked up for it. went right up to half way and tried to gee them all up.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:44 pm

If it wasn't for Hart today it would have been very Embarrassing. A 5-0 thumping or worse.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by DCWat » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:46 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:Fair play, love the honesty, not sure Dyche will like how outspoken he is
Not sure if what he said was particularly outspoken. He simply said what we all saw - it was an honest assessment and nothing controversial. Good on him and especially after he was one of only a few who came out of that game with any credit.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by jedi_master » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:48 pm

He’s absolutely correct, and he came out of today with credit unlike one other player.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by theroyaldyche » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:48 pm

Fair play to him. He was outstanding again today

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:49 pm

DCWat wrote:Not sure if what he said was particularly outspoken. He simply said what we all saw - it was an honest assessment and nothing controversial. Good on him and especially after he was one of only a few who came out of that game with any credit.
Yeah, I’m fine with it but I get the impression from Dyche that he would prefer players not to comment

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Healeywoodclaret » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:49 pm

Joe Hart must be wondering what he's done signing for Burnley. What's going on? We had a defence to be proud of last season. We were all over the show today.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by SGr » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:51 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:Joe Hart must be wondering what he's done signing for Burnley. What's going on? We had a defence to be proud of last season. We were all over the show today.
On the contrary, this team is making him look like a star player

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by kaptin1 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:53 pm

The reason the defence looks so bad is because we can’t keep possession in midfield and carry no attacking threat up front, so we just invite constant pressure.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by DCWat » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:53 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:Yeah, I’m fine with it but I get the impression from Dyche that he would prefer players not to comment
I genuinely don’t have that impression of Dyche. I think he wants strong characters such as Hart, who aren’t afraid to speak their mind. Providing it’s done in the right way of course.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by ClaretRock » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:54 pm

Only positive from today

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:55 pm

Will be interesting what Dyche has to say about today. Can no longer blame it on having to play Thursday night.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Goobs » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:56 pm

Incredible performance today and showed what a class keeper he still is.

Now if only there was someone equally as gifted at the other end.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Burtonwoodclaret » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:58 pm

Agree with JH . However, it is difficult to see what a “good long look at ourselves”will achieve if the players , especially in midfield ( but not exclusively)are playing up to their ability level. For example , our accuracy of passing and pace on and off the ball, looked to be in a different league from that of Wolves. Does this mean that our players are unable to think and act any faster ?
SD has always demanded that players give their all. If they are doing , no amount of looking will make individuals any better.
If this is the case, then it’s down to tactics, system , team selection and perhaps above all recruitment and those factors lie principally with the coaching team and the board.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by NRC » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:just said on the telebox

"we need to take a long hard look at ourselves, let's not kid ourselves we were smashed today and we've no excuse because we've had no midweek game, we look miles away from winning a game"

Let's hope the manager is as honest
following question asked him about the formation, and he straight-batted that saying not his position to comment, then gave Dyche, fellow players and management a vote of confidence

Quite right Joe

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Murger » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:03 pm

Burtonwoodclaret wrote:Agree with JH . However, it is difficult to see what a “good long look at ourselves”will achieve if the players , especially in midfield ( but not exclusively)are playing up to their ability level. For example , our accuracy of passing and pace on and off the ball, looked to be in a different league from that of Wolves. Does this mean that our players are unable to think and act any faster ?
SD has always demanded that players give their all. If they are doing , no amount of looking will make individuals any better.
If this is the case, then it’s down to tactics, system , team selection and perhaps above all recruitment and those factors lie principally with the coaching team and the board.
They arnt giving their all. The closing down was nonexistent. That's not a management choice, although Dyche needs to be questioned.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:22 pm

The clue as to how much better Hart is than the rest of them is his high standards. Extremely impressive. I am sure he would call himself out just as much as the team in general.

In short, form aside, he is a winner.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Papabendi » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:27 pm

How has Hart suddenly become a spokesman for the club after a handful of games, worrying for me and perhaps a sign the culture of the club is shifting.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:46 pm

Papabendi wrote:How has Hart suddenly become a spokesman for the club after a handful of games, worrying for me and perhaps a sign the culture of the club is shifting.
Hart has always given interviews after games at every club he has played for. This was an interview being broadcast all around the World so I would expect the majority of arm chair footy fans would rather hear from Hart than Bardsley

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:50 pm

Papabendi wrote:How has Hart suddenly become a spokesman for the club after a handful of games, worrying for me and perhaps a sign the culture of the club is shifting.
Hart is one of the world’s top goalkeepers. He rightly is given that prominent status. No detriment to the rest of our lads. They need the cojones to recognise class and emulate the things Hart does.

(Yes, I know he has had a rocky spell, but was Golden Gloves 4 times in the hardest league in the world)
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by MACCA » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:52 pm

He isn't wrong.

We could have played until next Saturday and not scored.

We looked slow and ponderous, with no real idea or game plan on how to cause Wolves any problems.

I'm greatful it was only 1, as if it was 4 or 5, we couldn't have complained.

Wolves created more in 90 minutes, than we have all season in the league.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:50 pm

This said it all to me. When they scored all 10 players body language was dreadful. Heads down. Shoulders slumped. He went out all the way to half way and acted like a leader. And told them all to get it together.

As per every thread after every game this season. Hart is the very least of our problems.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Papabendi » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:54 pm

Not sure Joe Hart has a contract to be interviewed after every game

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:58 pm

Papabendi wrote:Not sure Joe Hart has a contract to be interviewed after every game
At least he is standing up to be counted.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Wo Didi » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:59 pm

Papabendi wrote:Not sure Joe Hart has a contract to be interviewed after every game

What a strange comment, do you not want to hear what our players have to say?

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:04 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:This said it all to me. When they scored all 10 players body language was dreadful. Heads down. Shoulders slumped. He went out all the way to half way and acted like a leader. And told them all to get it together.

As per every thread after every game this season. Hart is the very least of our problems.

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That's a positive, I'm glad we signed Hart, you can tell he's bought in to what we are.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:02 am

How pathetic do we look on that photo? All stood lined up ready to kick off whilst Wolves celebrate in the background.

We were awful yesterday. As David Moyes said, what made us successful just isn’t there at the moment. We aren’t playing in the manner we have done for 4-5 years.

Very worrying.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Top Claret » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:54 am

Joe hit the nail on the head.

Once again we were poor with a flattering score line. Wolves should have had 6. Most other Premier league sides would have exploited Wolves poor finishing and come away with at least a point, we created nothing.

Looks grim at the moment and the lack of investment in the squad is now coming home to roost

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Sutton-Claret » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:25 am

Did anybody spot him giving his shorts away to a young Wolves fan. Thought it was a bit odd........ Surely the kid would have preferred his gloves or shinpads / water bottle or even his towel
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:13 pm

Another top class show. Brilliant signing.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:16 pm

His ability was never in doubt at all. Not sure anybody (who knows much about football) ever doubted him. A top keeper. He always was, he just wasn't always given the confidence from his manager. That was basically what was missing.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Quicknick » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:18 pm

A truly top signing.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:24 pm

He's won me over.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Top Claret » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:25 pm

Joe was once again outstanding and deservedly mom
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:26 pm

He’s made a practically flawless start to his Burnley career. Kudos to him.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:30 pm

Outstanding today.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:35 pm

His performances have been of a really great standard so far, single-handedly keeping us in games and ensuring a few scorelines have flattered us.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by NL Claret » Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:32 pm

The worry with Hart in current form is keeping hold of him in the January transfer window. Let's not forget this lad was an England regular not long back and a PL title winner. Held in very high regard at City apart from Pep, they are naming a training pitch after him.

He's taken a pay cut to come to Burnley albeit from a massive golden handshake from City. I still give my head a wobble when I see Hart playing for the Clarets.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Blackrod » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:01 pm

Playing very well in a fairly poor team. He's got serous competition but feels wanted and is showing his quality. Despite the daft wages nowadays that can make you question some players this is one player who you can tell it hurts when we lose.
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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Stayingup » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:02 pm

Possibly should be made captain. Mee won't do at all.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Stayingup » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:06 pm

kaptin1 wrote:The reason the defence looks so bad is because we can’t keep possession in midfield and carry no attacking threat up front, so we just invite constant pressure.
You have a point but the defence against Watford and others has also been bad. Woeful.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:10 pm

I used to think he was an arse (probably due to bias fie Heaton etc) but decided to get behind him once he signed...

Can easily say my opinion has completely reversed. He is as passionate as they come and has easily been our best player so far this season.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:21 pm

Stayingup wrote:Possibly should be made captain. Mee won't do at all.
I love Ben but I must admit this had entered my head

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by KRBFC » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:26 pm

Our best player by an absolute mile, knew he was a cracking signing, I remember me and CricketfieldClaret were the only ones constantly backing Hart while the rest of the messageboard slagged him off at every opportunity whenever anybody in the media mentioned Hart for a spot in the England WC squad. Now look at him and all the fickle fans......

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by burnleymik » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:28 pm

KRBFC wrote:Our best player by an absolute mile, knew he was a cracking signing, I remember me and CricketfieldClaret were the only ones constantly backing Hart while the rest of the messageboard slagged him off at every opportunity whenever anybody in the media mentioned Hart for a spot in the England WC squad. Now look at him and all the fickle fans......

Your memory is turd! :D :D :D

There were quite a number of people on here who thought he would be a good signing! He has in-fact turned out to be an excellent signing so far. Highly impressed.

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Re: Joe Hart

Post by taio » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:30 pm

KRBFC wrote:Our best player by an absolute mile, knew he was a cracking signing, I remember me and CricketfieldClaret were the only ones constantly backing Hart while the rest of the messageboard slagged him off at every opportunity whenever anybody in the media mentioned Hart for a spot in the England WC squad. Now look at him and all the fickle fans......
Plenty of people slagging Hart off be he came here but plenty of people defended him also.

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