https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... st-improve

BBC now added

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45462680

honest as ever

Honest but deep in trouble

Love SD but he is now starting every interview with how much the other club have spent its getting a bit boring. It’s not as though we haven’t got a pot to **** in is it.

And I thought some of defending was desperate at times. I was expecting to see Buster Keaton during one of the scrambles in the second half

RocketLawnChair wrote:Love SD but he is now starting every interview with how much the other club have spent its getting a bit boring. It’s not as though we haven’t got a pot to **** in is it.

True but the board like to save .for the dry powder store

A few sly digs there, tried to draw the focus away from
Our inept performance again. Be running out of
Excuses soon Sean.

RocketLawnChair wrote:Love SD but he is now starting every interview with how much the other club have spent its getting a bit boring. It’s not as though we haven’t got a pot to **** in is it.

I have to agree, that line about other clubs' investment is a bit boring, it doesn't need saying.
But we all must realise that our budget is unlikely to buy, and pay, the sort of players we need to be genuinely competitive.
And before anyone comes up with the old "we came 7th", it was an anomaly, we over-achieved.

Midfield, midfield, midfield.

Not protecting defensively, not retaining possession and doing little to benefit our forwards. That’s the key area which needs sorting (as it did in the summer).

Good points but our poor recruitment in known key areas of weakness, cm wide right and a playmaker is causing issues.Defour and Brady back will help but McNeil should be in after a string of good performances

Not happy that he keeps blaming the board with underhand/sly digs at recruitment.

Take a bit of responsibility man, it’s your team, your tactics, your training and none of that is bearing fruit at the moment. You need to work with what you have.

jedi_master wrote:Not happy that he keeps blaming the board with underhand/sly digs at recruitment.

Take a bit of responsibility man, it’s your team, your tactics, your training and none of that is bearing fruit at the moment. You need to work with what you have.

I think he should be more honest with his digs, he clearly wasn't backed in the summer and I for one put a large portion of the blame at the feet of the board

Given our finances compared to the rest of the division, We simply cannot compete long term at this level in the long term. That’s sad, of course, but it’s a fact. The Championship is our natural level. It’s been a rollercoaster, but it looks like the brakes are about to be applied.

Longsidebogs wrote:Given our finances compared to the rest of the division, We simply cannot compete long term at this level in the long term. That’s sad, of course, but it’s a fact. The Championship is our natural level. It’s been a rollercoaster, but it looks like the brakes are about to be applied.

I don't think we've even tried to compete

The constant talk of how much others have spent is getting boring.
We were regularly told that "you can't just throw money at things and expect results and performances"
So which is it? You can or you can't?

You don't need to throw money at a team, for them to have the ability to string 3 consecutive positive forward passes together.
We don't look interested in trying to work through the units.

It's the same long diagonal, feed of the 2nds. Any time we break through the line, we check back again.

Big 3 games coming up and anything under 5 points and I think we are in major trouble.

Some fantastic straight talking from our leader after the match today.

Like I say, Joe Hart has been impressive.

A bit more like ourselves defensively he says

Standards must have slipped

Very deep in trouble now and can't see a way out of it. A big strong midfielder was essential..

Problem now is who would want to join a relegation bound team?

Question is how has it got to this? This is the poorest team in a while. If it's not 0 - 0.it's a defeat.

Why have we bought Vydra?

Missed the game today, Sounds like we have been found out, really need those injured players back and fast.

We really miss a Glen Little on the right, watched some youtube of him the other day and he absolutely roasted full backs inhis day.

Lennon is not fit to lace his boots but the whole team is culpable at the mo....

It’s not about finances when you have at least 2 better defenders on the bench than on the pitch

The problem is our build up play is so slow and predictable at the moment. Then we inevitably lose possession and invite pressure on ourselves.

boatshed bill wrote:I have to agree, that line about other clubs' investment is a bit boring, it doesn't need saying.
But we all must realise that our budget is unlikely to buy, and pay, the sort of players we need to be genuinely competitive.
And before anyone comes up with the old "we came 7th", it was an anomaly, we over-achieved.

So here we come - to the Championship where frankly this team would struggle.

The most worrying thing is that they are the same "We needs" (performance). The same ones we needed in the performances at the end of last season, and all of this more or less.... so why? I'm a big fan of SD but I think he needs to focus himself a little more at the moment if the same problems are persisting.

RocketLawnChair wrote:Love SD but he is now starting every interview with how much the other club have spent its getting a bit boring. It’s not as though we haven’t got a pot to **** in is it.

And I thought some of defending was desperate at times. I was expecting to see Buster Keaton during one of the scrambles in the second half

Its no use having a pot to **** in if your not prepared to ****.

Stayingup wrote:So here we come - to the Championship where frankly this team would struggle.

Not necessarily.
We need to get some young players in, I think McNeil has shown this.
We sent Jimmy Dunne to Hearts, he's a regular starter for the SPL table-toppers.
Too many journeymen. Can SD motivate aging millionaires?

For me it’s massively about the full backs

We’ve not won a single game with Taylor in the team. I like him defensively, don’t get me wrong, but he and Bardsley don’t provide the same dynamism going forward as Ward and Lowton.

I’m staggered if SD doesn’t see that - they need to be back in the lineup ASAP.

Also, Lennon isn’t the answer wide either. As soon as we can get Brady back with JBG on the opposite flank I think our creativity will return - and goals with it.

"Can SD motivate ageing millionaires"?

Joe Hart was our best player by a country mile so the answer must be YES.

It’s not about competing with the moneybags in the division. It’s about being clever in the market:

Decent loans
Finding bargains
Looking at those with something to prove
Taking on up and coming prospects
Taking calculated risks on players
Widening the pool from which we shop from

Im just not seeing enough of it - we seem to be so focussed on little old Burnley not being able to find players that we end up doing very little.

Even if SD had secured his main targets would they have made that much difference?

Fulham and Wolves have recruited top players from overseas not Championship journeymen.

kentonclaret wrote:"Can SD motivate ageing millionaires"?

Joe Hart was our best player by a country mile so the answer must be YES.

I think Joe Hart's motivation is a bit different, TBH.

I'd be interested to know how much both sides have spent over the last 3 years

DCWat wrote:It’s not about competing with the moneybags in the division. It’s about being clever in the market:

Decent loans
Finding bargains
Looking at those with something to prove
Taking on up and coming prospects
Taking calculated risks on players
Widening the pool from which we shop from

Im just not seeing enough of it - we seem to be so focussed on little old Burnley not being able to find players that we end up doing very little.

absolutely 100% spot on especially the last one

DCWat wrote:It’s not about competing with the moneybags in the division. It’s about being clever in the market:

Decent loans
Finding bargains
Looking at those with something to prove
Taking on up and coming prospects
Taking calculated risks on players
Widening the pool from which we shop from

Im just not seeing enough of it - we seem to be so focussed on little old Burnley not being able to find players that we end up doing very little.

Your right in many respects here but it's difficult to keep pulling abbits from a hat as Dyche has done. Particularly when he looks only at certain types of players.

We need outside investment if we want to be the Premier League. Personally I cant see us staying in it this season though.

Wood and Barnes playing together was a big part of our sequence of 6 wins in second half of last season. They haven’t started a match together this season as far as I can recall. I’m sure Sean will turn this around but not playing these two together or Lowton at RB is really hampering our attacking ability.

Sam is a great sub to bring on for the last 15-20 mins of a game (both to hold a lead or as a big man to throw balls into the box) but we can’t keep starting with him or having Wood with Hendrick behind.

During commentary on Sky it was mentioned that the Chinese owners have plans for Wolves to challenge Manchester City over the next 5/10 seasons and have earmarked half a billion pounds for new player recruitment.

Light years away from any ambitions Burnley may harbour.

jedi_master wrote:Not happy that he keeps blaming the board with underhand/sly digs at recruitment.

Take a bit of responsibility man, it’s your team, your tactics, your training and none of that is bearing fruit at the moment. You need to work with what you have.

Well he cant use the tired from europe excuse anymore

Maybe if Dyche broadened his horizons a little it would make it easier for us to sign players? His refusal to countenance signing anyone who is non British or playing abroad means we're operating with one hand tied behind our back in the transfer market.

Stayingup wrote:Your right in many respects here but it's difficult to keep pulling abbits from a hat as Dyche has done. Particularly when he looks only at certain types of players.

We need outside investment if we want to be the Premier League. Personally I cant see us staying in it this season though.

Are you changing your username for this season then ?

boatshed bill wrote:Not necessarily.
We need to get some young players in, I think McNeil has shown this.
We sent Jimmy Dunne to Hearts, he's a regular starter for the SPL table-toppers.
Too many journeymen. Can SD motivate aging millionaires?

Not the SD way I’m afraid. Has a mistrust of youth, journeymen forever. I’ll get jumped on - but if anybody wants to provide much evidence to the contrary ? (rather than just being abusive).

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We need outside investment if we want to be the Premier League..[/quote]

Absolutely this.
Some fans don't want it, but it's the way the game is going, like it or not.

Aclaret wrote:Are you changing your username for this season then ?

I'm hoping we will stay up in the Championship!!!

kentonclaret wrote:During commentary on Sky it was mentioned that the Chinese owners have plans for Wolves to challenge Manchester City over the next 5/10 seasons and have earmarked half a billion pounds for new player recruitment.

Light years away from any ambitions Burnley may harbour.

Yes the league has a number of rich owners who have come in and initially splashed the cash and said things like this. But what happens if they don't win anything in the next 5 years?

Some people really swift to change their colors on here (and elsewhere). Personally I've always thought the board were lucky with their appointment of him, and have more or less been able to provide a budgetary framework, stand back and let Dyche do his job.

On the contrary I've maintained since our first PL promotion with Coyle that the "good locally-owned management" would eventually have its limitations.... there are ways to invite investment while still providing the good husbandry

kentonclaret wrote:During commentary on Sky it was mentioned that the Chinese owners have plans for Wolves to challenge Manchester City over the next 5/10 seasons and have earmarked half a billion pounds for new player recruitment.

Light years away from any ambitions Burnley may harbour.

And if all 20 Premier league clubs get billionaire owners three will still get relegated.

Spijed wrote:And if all 20 Premier league clubs get billionaire owners three will still get relegated.

And if another three did it we'd have a pretty good idea who would be getting promoted from the championship