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Dwight McNeil

Post by Safron » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:54 pm

Thought this lad was great against olympiacos and man u showed good technique and determination,very surprised he was dropped for wolves ,hope he has staked his claim for a recall against the cherries, with his game against Bolton,very exciting prospect .

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:57 pm

Being out of the picture v wolves has probably done him no harm at all tbh

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:58 pm

I think everyone was shocked he wasn't on the bench, but under pressure Dyche is more likely to go to his defensive nature and try and grind results out.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:09 pm

Best prospect since Jay Rod he has it all two footed, tackles well, can pick a pass and has an eye for goal.He needs to be starting in first team games

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by pureclaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:16 pm

For me shows more than Aaron Lennon does and at the moment more likely to score too

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by claretandy » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:29 pm

Dyche picks the bench on seniority, if there are 7 fit senior players then McNeil misses out, it's a shame.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by SGr » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:43 pm

Should be on the pitch. When you’re struggling for results you should always pick the best team - and for me he offers a lot more than Lennon. And would allow Gudmundsson to return to his preferred right side.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:45 pm

Had a knock on Sunday didn't he?

No other sane reason for not having him on the bench otherwise to be honest.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Dom » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:45 pm

Lot of pressure on his shoulders, think a slow introduction is the right way to go.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Murger » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:45 pm

Agree with those who say he should be starting. Offers a lot more than Lennon, who's done sweet FA for far too long now.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:01 pm

To throw him in when we are struggling and fans questioning things could be foolish or could be a master stroke.

Personally think Dyche has this right. The last thing he needs in his development is to be thrown into negative, losing environment. Expect to see him back in for Cardiff and Hudersfield if not Bournemouth.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:08 pm

The only way a youngster will get a chance at Burnley or any other premier league club is through lack of senior players being available or it going tits up
Chaplow was the last youngster.to get a sustained run at Burnley wasn't he?

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:45 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:The only way a youngster will get a chance at Burnley or any other premier league club is through lack of senior players being available or it going tits up
Chaplow was the last youngster.to get a sustained run at Burnley wasn't he?
McCann, Lafferty and Jay!

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Grumps » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:48 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Had a knock on Sunday didn't he?

No other sane reason for not having him on the bench otherwise to be honest.
No because he played yesterday..... And picked up a knock

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:45 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:McCann, Lafferty and Jay!
I don’t think Jay Rod did. Not 100% sure but I think he had a brief appearance in the first team them went on a few loans and got injured before establishing himself in the championship around 21/22 years old.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:02 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Best prospect since Jay Rod he has it all two footed, tackles well, can pick a pass and has an eye for goal.He needs to be starting in first team games
Initially read that as "two footed tackles" and thought you were listing that as a good thing!

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by MDWat » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:05 pm

Starting to get a bit frustrated with what is a clear desire to use defensive options over attacking options, despite the great promise McNeil showed.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:16 pm

When he was put in charge of all free kicks in the opposition half it became very clear how much faith SD has in him.
It’s going to be a great year for him and inspiration to everyone in the youths squads.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by EarbyClaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:32 pm

Sensible to be cautious with his development under the circumstances - would hate us to reflect on this season in comparison to 1975/76 - our third and final back in the top flight in that spell - careful nurturing of emerging talent in a challenging situation would set us apart from that era and is hopefully a sign of a different mindset/mentality to previous occasions in our history when the odds have been stacked against us.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by AndrewJB » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:58 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:The only way a youngster will get a chance at Burnley or any other premier league club is through lack of senior players being available or it going tits up
Chaplow was the last youngster.to get a sustained run at Burnley wasn't he?
McCann? Rodriguez? Lafferty? Beaten to it!

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:00 pm

McNeil will be a better player for having no part in that shitshow we produced on Sunday.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Stalbansclaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:05 pm

Two-footed ? He is virtually completely left-footed isn't he ? This seems to be his main weakness ..just as it is Steven Ward and Charlie Taylor's for that matter.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by EarbyClaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:16 pm

Bordeaux captures exactly what I was trying to say - but for more succinctly.

I'm thinking along the lines of Bradshaw, Kennerley, O'Rourke Parker etc. from that era - I'm sure there are numerous examples from the many years of struggle (although not in the top flight) between then and the change of fortune in the 21st century.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Siddo » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:21 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Best prospect since Jay Rod he has it all two footed, tackles well, can pick a pass and has an eye for goal.He needs to be starting in first team games
Isn't this a tad over the top?

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by bodge » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:26 pm

SD knows what he's doing, unbelievable though that may sound to some.

He shows immense promise but he needs to be dipped in and out to build up his mentality if nothing else.

The last thing he needs is for him to be placed on a pedestal by the fanbase at this stage.

If a couple of months down the line, he's shown his ability on a few occasions, he'll get a regular gig.

Our history of bringing young players through in the distant past, whilst laudable, needs to be tempered by the difficulty of doing it at Premier League level given the standard of the league we're in.

Patience is a virtue in this instance.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:30 pm

I thought his absence on Sunday was purely tactical.
First half, JBG was obviously given a task of keeping them quiet on Taylor's side, he did loads of good defensive work. It would have been a big ask for McNeil to do the same with his experience.
Saturday is different and I hope he would be back.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:38 pm

Burton away next Tuesday is the perfect chance to give McNeil and Vydra a start assuming they are both fit.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by dsr » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:45 pm

Ryan Giggs wasn't starting regularly for Man United at that age. They usually need to be eased in, if on ly to lengthen their career.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by RVclaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:10 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Burton away next Tuesday is the perfect chance to give McNeil and Vydra a start assuming they are both fit.
Bournemouth at home on Saturday is the perfect chance to start Vydra. Anything else would be ridiculous after Sunday.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:31 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:Two-footed ? He is virtually completely left-footed isn't he ? This seems to be his main weakness ..just as it is Steven Ward and Charlie Taylor's for that matter.
Steven Ward can pass with his right and control with it, with no issue.

Taylor on the other hand... His body position is constantly square on to the CB as he cannot take it at all on his right foot.

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